DrDawkinstein Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, Augie said: YOU JUST KEEP GETTING THERE AHEAD OF ME!!! 😂 THATS WHAT SHE SAID! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: You guys are talking about 2 different Raven offers. The fully guaranteed was 3 years. He had an offer right after Josh signed that he turned down too. So, he’s giving up bad decisions for a while? I’m happy for him, and I’m glad it worked out, but it was hardly a stroke of genius. He was always going to get a LOT of money. But it’s not fully guaranteed. The Browns are singularly stupid with long term/fully guaranteed. In the current market you have to chose one, as I hope it will always remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 These contracts have Ralph Wilson rolling over in his grave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, Augie said: So, he’s giving up bad decisions for a while? I’m happy for him, and I’m glad it worked out, but it was hardly a stroke of genius. He was always going to get a LOT of money. But it’s not fully guaranteed. The Browns are singularly stupid with long term/fully guaranteed. In the current market you have to chose one, as I hope it will always remain. Agree with everything. Ravens had to do the longer term. They will have an out in 3 years or so I bet. Lamar is a good QB, but he does have to show he can stay healthy and win in the playoffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 52 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: So if he could which you have no idea if he could, he should risk a career ending injury for a team that won’t pay him? That would be your advice to a family member in his situation? This isn’t the 50s anymore. This is life changing money. You are Lamar's biggest fan on this board. I think you must be his wannabe agent. What is your cut of his signing bonus? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Rodgers is black? Yep, he comes from the same lineage as Mike McDaniel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Well after dozens of geniuses here calling him a moron for months I am excited to see the numbers! “Highest paid player of all time”… Bet it’s not going to make up the money he lost by not being under contract for the last 2 years like Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Big winners? Burrow and Herbert. He who signs first loses the quickest lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: The team was willing to pay him. Theyve always been willing to pay him a HUGE deal, top of the league. It was only structure and guarantees they didnt agree to. If I was Lamar's family member, and so concerned over his wealth vs health, I wouldve told him to sign the offer back in 2021. So he could be sitting on over $50M AND play in that playoff game last year. yup for perspective, through first 8 years of their play hurts will earn 260M roughly, be entering free agency on a second prime contract and have reduced his risk substantially Lamar will be about $200m in, have had huge risk the last 2 years, and not have a 3rd contract in the pipeline yet (possibly ever) but Lamar can say he got the biggest contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Bet it’s not going to make up the money he lost by not being under contract for the last 2 years like Allen. sure buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: sure buddy. Math is hard, as is the time value of money concept apparently. Congrats on your new contract Lamar, idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: sure buddy. someone like hurts will have 2 more years of elite pay in their career. Less risk. Heck, quicker to a 3rd contract at whatever that pay scale ends up which isn’t a given for Lamar now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Well after dozens of geniuses here calling him a moron for months I am excited to see the numbers! “Highest paid player of all time”… Seeing as we already have our guy locked up, I really hope they give a declining Lamar ALL the guaranteed money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: So if he could which you have no idea if he could, he should risk a career ending injury for a team that won’t pay him? That would be your advice to a family member in his situation? This isn’t the 50s anymore. This is life changing money. Yes it would be. Players go their whole careers without a playoff appearance. It was a very ME decision. I don't like it and I don't have to. Like I said, I wouldn't have paid him. Sounds like you would. 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Beach said: what am i missing? he is good but not this good, right? is it just me? It’s not just you. This is the 2nd worst contract in the history of the NFL. He and OBJ Ravens really seem desperate with this Lamar deal. I thought they were smarter than that. Since he lost 30m the past few years this gets him about even. Well done mom. I stand corrected. I didn’t think the Ravens were this foolish. Only problem for Lamar is he is very very unlikely to meet the expectations of this contract. Interested to see how he handles the pressure. But today it’s a big W for him and his mom. I concede that Lamar won today 🍻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Math is hard, as is the time value of money concept apparently. Congrats on your new contract Lamar, idiot. I’m familiar with the concept and the argument. Still can’t fault him for fighting for more (on paper) and trusting himself. Or maybe he just have accepted the first thing they offered him. Guess he’s not a billionaire bootlicker like you. 🤡 Edited April 28, 2023 by JoPoy88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 58 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Bet it’s not going to make up the money he lost by not being under contract for the last 2 years like Allen. I think that’s what’s I’m interested in. I don’t know if finishes the contract. No we aren’t idiots I agree we just didn’t think the Ravens were this dumb!! This is a terrible deal for the Ravens… 3 hours ago, colin said: i think getting rid of greg roman is gonna prove to be a big mistake for the team. I could see jackson getting some stats w obj there, but i think they will not be as good of an o without greg to run it. Great point. Despite the Lamar camp complaining about WR.. WR don’t want to go there. Except OBJ who got 15m when no other team offered over 5. Now under a true NFL offense I would be concerned about him finding it a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, NoSaint said: someone like hurts will have 2 more years of elite pay in their career. Less risk. Heck, quicker to a 3rd contract at whatever that pay scale ends up which isn’t a given for Lamar now. I’m sure he was aware or made aware of the trade off. He wasn’t going to take something below his self-perceived value. That doesn’t make him a moron. And none of you are as smart or savvy as you think you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I hope to have that problem. Josh is mature. He speaks with his play and his professional agent. When the time is right he will get paid on at least 2 more big contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: I’m sure he was aware or made aware of the trade off. He wasn’t going to take something below his self-perceived value. That doesn’t make him a moron. And none of you are as smart or savvy as you think you are. the trade off of making less overall money and taking bigger risks so he can claim the largest deal until burrow signs for more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) He was so stupid for being his own agent. *****in' idiot. Settling for $52M/year. Edited April 28, 2023 by Freddie's Dead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Absolutely. He’s the highest paid player in the league by AAV, has the 2nd highest total dollar contract (only Mahomes’ 10 year deal totals more) and has the 2nd most guaranteed dollars. Yeah, seems like the Ravens caved. If your argument against that is that he didn’t get 100% guaranteed, then you should learn about how negotiations work. I didn't think he would get a fully guaranteed contract. In fact I've criticized him for it. Not sure why you're coming at me with what you said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: the trade off of making less overall money and taking bigger risks so he can claim the largest deal until burrow signs for more? That’s that’s assuming it was 100% about money for Lamar and yes, part of it was especially in trying to secure as much guaranteed as possible. But there was a pride aspect to it too given how much he mattered to that team (and the city.) He simply did not think their offer last year matched his value. He took a major risk waiting, actually did get hurt, and still got the most money ever (until Burrow, yes. And probably Herbert too.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: He was so stupid for being his own agent. *****in' idiot. Settling for $52M/year. If you can get off of your high horse for a minute, this is the moment where the result makes what historically was a poor choice a good choice. Based on those $, I have a feeling you’re missing something 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Why would they give Lamar WR’s when he can’t hit the broad side of a barn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If you can get off of your high horse for a minute, this is the moment where the result makes what historically was a poor choice a good choice. Based on those $, I have a feeling you’re missing something That he made a bad choice that lost money but worked out fine anyway cause giving up a few bucks isn’t the end of the world when you have 250m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said: You are Lamar's biggest fan on this board. I think you must be his wannabe agent. What is your cut of his signing bonus? I would accept that! and I’m big fan of the guy because despite being really, really good, he somehow still gets trashed. Next to Allen, he’s the qb I want to win a SB because he gets so much for hate for a good player. It’s pretty stupid. 1 hour ago, Mark92 said: Yes it would be. Players go their whole careers without a playoff appearance. It was a very ME decision. I don't like it and I don't have to. Like I said, I wouldn't have paid him. Sounds like you would. 🤷 Yeah, I like MVPs and qbs who win a lot of games. But I’m weird like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: and I’m big fan of the guy because despite being really, really good, he somehow still gets trashed. Next to Allen, he’s the qb I want to win a SB because he gets so much for hate for a good player. It’s pretty stupid. So ironic coming from you, as up until recently, you trashed Allen constantly. It’s pretty stupid right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Good for Lamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Everyone criticizing Lamar for not having an agent and he basically got the same deal as Hurts without giving up 3% to an agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: So ironic coming from you, as up until recently, you trashed Allen constantly. It’s pretty stupid right! Shut up nerd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Shut up nerd. Truth hurts! Man up - Don’t run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Agents missed out on taking 10%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 😴😴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Agents missed out on taking 10%? Maximum 3% per NFLPA. Star players usually pay more like 1%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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