Vontae Mack, no matter what

[GunnerBill]

7 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

 

Any Given Sunday is a far, far superior movie about pro football.

 

I use "life is a game of inches" with my team at work all the time. Basically you never know which small detail is going to be the one on which history turns. So take them all seriously, because life is a game of inches. 

[BillsFanSD]

Draft Day is an amazing movie.  It's a lot like Zero Hour, in that it's almost impossible to watch certain scenes without laughing.  I know it presents itself as a drama, but there's no way the people who wrote this didn't understand that they were writing a very dry comedy.  

[BillsFanSD]

15 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Let’s see:

- He gave up a boatload of picks to trade for #1 overall not knowing  who he was going to pick and not having finished his homework on the top rated QB in the draft. 

- Decided to take an off the ball linebacker with the 1st overall pick.

- Talked another GM into a terrible trade to get back up high in the first round.

- Then took a running back with that high first round pick.

- And finally, everyone celebrated all of that.

 

The only thing that made sense was that they had the Browns doing it all. 

The thing is that we could just go and on with this stuff.

- He traded for the #1 overall pick without informing the owner.  

- He was surprised that the owner of the team found out about the trade somehow.

- Everybody seems to be under the impression that trades are some big secret, as opposed to being splashed all over the internet.

- "I want my picks back.  All of them."  :lmao:

- The all-star QB has no friends, and nobody noticed that.

- Everybody assumes Cleveland (!) knows exactly what they're doing, so when they pass on Callahan, everybody else freaks and passes on him instead instead of just saying Thank You.  

 

It's one laughably implausible plot point after another.  And they're all glorious.

[SoCal Deek]

It’s the movie that got my wife super interested in watching the draft every year…so there’s that.

Edited April 27, 2023 by SoCal Deek

[Cheesus]

7 hours ago, Virgil said:

I’m sorry, but how hard is it to get a trade chart value correct?   The trades were so stupid and unrealistic.  It ruined the whole movie for me. 

 

Agreed, also ruined it for me.

[BarleyNY]

53 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s the movie that got my wife super interested in watching the draft every year…so there’s that.

silver lining!

53 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

The thing is that we could just go and on with this stuff.

- He traded for the #1 overall pick without informing the owner.  

- He was surprised that the owner of the team found out about the trade somehow.

- Everybody seems to be under the impression that trades are some big secret, as opposed to being splashed all over the internet.

- "I want my picks back.  All of them."  :lmao:

- The all-star QB has no friends, and nobody noticed that.

- Everybody assumes Cleveland (!) knows exactly what they're doing, so when they pass on Callahan, everybody else freaks and passes on him instead instead of just saying Thank You.  

 

It's one laughably implausible plot point after another.  And they're all glorious.

 

and they have no picks in the first two rounds for like the next three years so if their athletically limited, try-hard quarterback doesn’t pan out, they can’t draft another one for four years.

Edited April 27, 2023 by BarleyNY

[stevewin]

55 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

My takeaway from the movie: Every time I see Russ Brandon's face I want to punch it.

 

 Other than that the movie was like a cheese fondue served with cornbread.

 

[Augie]

7 hours ago, Virgil said:

I’m sorry, but how hard is it to get a trade chart value correct?   The trades were so stupid and unrealistic.  It ruined the whole movie for me. 

 

Maybe you’re just cranky when it comes to draft related stuff? Take a deeeep breath and relax. 😋

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I enjoyed it for what it was if it’s a little corny. Wish it would have been the Bills. 

In his case, you get nfl jobs because you’re friends with the right people!

 

It actually WAS supposed to be about the Bills and they declined...so it became about the Browns...

 

Bills Russ Brandon and a couple of others still had a cameo appearance in there where he tries to play the hard ass and looks silly.

[Allen2Moulds]

9 hours ago, mrags said:

Honestly. I would have put it in right now. But I just noticed Tango and Cash is on and I haven’t seen this glorious movie in like like 20 years and I’m kinda into it. 

CLASSIC!!

[BarleyNY]

17 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

It actually WAS supposed to be about the Bills and they declined...so it became about the Browns...

 

Bills Russ Brandon and a couple of others still had a cameo appearance in there where he tries to play the hard ass and looks silly.

Cleveland cut the producers a better deal on taxes and expenditures than Buffalo. They were going hard after the movie filming niche at the time.

[mrags]

11 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

CLASSIC!!

Yup

6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Cleveland cut the producers a better deal on taxes and expenditures than Buffalo. They were going hard after the movie filming niche at the time.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2013/3/6/4070486/nfl-draft-movie-kevin-costner-bills-browns
 

I really remember it differently when it happened. Oh well. Awesome job by NYS again. We keep winning. Doing all the things we can to ensure that people don’t want to be here. 

[May Day 10]

I hate this movie for no other reason than it memorializes that clown Russ Brandon as the Buffalo Bills GM.  

[BarleyNY]

6 minutes ago, mrags said:

Yup

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2013/3/6/4070486/nfl-draft-movie-kevin-costner-bills-browns
 

I really remember it differently when it happened. Oh well. Awesome job by NYS again. We keep winning. Doing all the things we can to ensure that people don’t want to be here. 

Someone can always outbid you if they want something bad enough. It happens. 

[Matt_In_NH]

I want all my picks back

[Royale with Cheese]

Just out of curiosity, did Russ Brandon have a young female intern with daddy issues? 

[Roundybout]

The trades were kind of unrealistic (the equivalent of trading Singletary for three firsts) but I enjoy the movie overall. 

[26TrapDraw]

You pancake eating Motherf$@&er!!!

[Bills Fan In Pittsford]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s the movie that got my wife super interested in watching the draft every year…so there’s that.

My wife watches it with me every year.  She has no interest in the draft.  Very funny movie.  We love the look on Vonte's face when the pick is announced.

[Dopey]

It was a good watch, once. I tried again, but never finished it a second time. 

Give me Pilar, Olof.

[CookieG]

The movie didn't put enough pressure on Costner in the movie:

 

-he's drafting for Cleveland;

-the night before the draft, his secret girlfriend/employee announces she's pregnant, so the late 50 something GM learns he's going to be a father for the first time;

-his father, a legendary football coach whom he fired, dies a week before the draft;

-the owner, a former vampire, implies he'll be fired unless he "makes a splash", basically telling him to take a QB that he doesn't want;

-on the most important day of his career, he's given a 1st day intern who is put at a desk right outside his office;

-his head coach, who he never wanted to hire, is contacting teams behind his back to set up a trade;

-a few hours before the draft, his mother and ex-wife show up with his recently deceased father's ashes, demanding a memorial service on the spot;

-he has to endure a conference call with Russ Brandon.

 

 

[mrags]

18 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Someone can always outbid you if they want something bad enough. It happens. 

Always happens in NY. Unless your NYC 

[CookieG]

28 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

I hate this movie for no other reason than it memorializes that clown Russ Brandon as the Buffalo Bills GM.  

I don't think its a coincidence that a few weeks after the movie came out, Russ traded for Sammy Watkins.  after the trade, Russ said something like "we wanted to make a bold move".

 

Eerily similar to "make a splash".

[BillsShredder83]

It's an awful movie lol but im so addicted to the sport that I love it anyways.

 

Wish someone would shoot a full inside view of a day in life of GM. Even if they shot it and held it 5 years, it would be amazing. Those embedded videos are crack.

 

Actually, anybody know of other teams version of Embedded war room episode? I'd watch every single one

 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

The trades were kind of unrealistic (the equivalent of trading Singletary for three firsts) but I enjoy the movie overall. 

 

The trade was for what was considered the best QB in the draft. Pretty sure teams have gotten more than 3 firsts for that. Look what the Bears got this year and this isn't considered a particularly strong QB class.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Big Turk

[mrags]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

The trade was for what was considered the best QB in the draft. Pretty sure teams have gotten more than 3 firsts for that. Look what the Bears got this year and this isn't considered a particularly strong QB class.

Yeah. I think the bigger issue with the movie is that the 2nd or 3rd team didn’t run to the podium to draft Bo. Or that another team didn’t trade up immediately after he fell to 2 or 3. They made it out in the movie that Bo was the best QB to come out in the draft in forever and was by far the best player in the draft. Someone would have moved up at that point. 
 

with all that being said it’s great entertainment. Thank you @Just Jackfor reminding me. Just got finished watching it. Even my wife was excited about it and even though I’ve watched it every draft day eve, I believe my wife is now on board with it as well. 

[frostbitmic]

Costner's over acting is bad but I can watch Jennifer Garner for 90 minutes.

[BillsFanSD]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

The trade was for what was considered the best QB in the draft. Pretty sure teams have gotten more than 3 firsts for that. Look what the Bears got this year and this isn't considered a particularly strong QB class.

I like the part where Seattle trades the pick to Cleveland, and then within a matter of hours Cleveland is fielding trade inquiries from other teams.  Where were the Chiefs, Bills, etc. when Seattle what shopping the pick in the first place?  Was the Seattle GM not connected with those guys on LinkedIn or something?  

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Make a splash! Remember people pay to get wet

[Chicharito]

14 hours ago, mrags said:

Actually I think the Bills were supposed to be the team but they didn’t want to be used as the main story because they thought it might make them look bad. Idk. 

It was supposed to be the bills you are correct. It was going to be filmed at the stadium. Good ol’ NYS wouldn’t give tax breaks for filming so they moved the story to Cleveland. 

[Success]

The circumstances portrayed in the movie are absolutely preposterous, but I love watching it.

 

I love the dynamics between the owner, coach & GM presented - I think that kind of push & pull is probably the most accurate thing, with each party having different priorities.  And who doesn't love "pancake eating motherf****r?"

 

[Just Jack]

Everyone here debating the value of the trade picks, and I'm noticing that the Browns owner somehow got from NYC to Cleveland in about 40 minutes.  Google maps says it would take 30 minutes just to get from Radio City Music Hall to the airport.  

[Thrivefourfive]

did not age well. First ten minutes, Redskins, Gruden, Andrew Luck.. dirty Cleveland, a runningback with a rap sheet,,

 

Sorry, watching it for the first time in a long time. Getting inspired. 
 

Chevy Volt at the gas station

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Thrivefourfive

[DJB]

[Never NEVER Give-up]

Simply . . . Jennifer Garner = Good Movie
Other than that, it was a little cheesy, but good - B+ I'd say.

[BobbyC81]

Just finished watching it again.

[Thurman#1]

I like bits and pieces, but the end just ruins it for me.

 

The other GM is the weakest sad sack there.

 

I mean, how far on tilt does that guy have to be? If he makes that trade he doesn't even make it from the corridor into his office before his owner is there asking for the key to the executive bathroom and discussing the compensation he'll get for being fired.

 

 

Edited April 30, 2023 by Thurman#1

[Julio Hopkins]

I love this movie despite how ridiculous it is.  

 

The best part is that he essentially traded three second round picks for a running back and a special teams player.