Rigotz Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread? It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone: - Deebo Samuel - AJ Brown - DK Metcalf - Diontae Johnson - Tee Higgins - Michael Pittman - Chase Claypool - Elijah Moore - Christian Watson Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍 7 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread? It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone: - Deebo Samuel - AJ Brown - DK Metcalf - Diontae Johnson - Tee Higgins - Michael Pittman - Chase Claypool - Elijah Moore - Christian Watson Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍 seeing a common theme: Ole Miss. Mingo would be a strong selection at 59 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread? It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone: - Deebo Samuel - AJ Brown - DK Metcalf - Diontae Johnson - Tee Higgins - Michael Pittman - Chase Claypool - Elijah Moore - Christian Watson Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍 You're forgetting Davante Adams, another second rounder. He's arguably the best receiver in the NFL. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I mean just looking at what our roster is comprised of. Diggs - 5th Davis - 4th Shakir - 5th Sherfield - UDFA Harty - UDFA Could find a starter in any round. 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Go OT, Mingo, AND trade for Hopkins. That’s my dream scenario. ^^ Yes I’m good with Wright at 27 - if no OT trade back again - assuming we’ve done so already with Arizona for Nuke 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 The last “weak” WR draft was the 2019 draft. A lot of great WRs were drafted that year. Ive considered this a weak class but that’s based on the top of the 1st round. I don’t see a true WR1 prospect but there will be WR1’s drafted in this draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I just threw up in my mouth a little bit at the memory of mortgaging a future 1st round pick just to trade up a few spots for Sammy Watkins Please let our current GM never be that stupid. It's a pretty low bar but a reasonable request 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Mims is going to end up being a player 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 49 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread? It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone: - Deebo Samuel - AJ Brown - DK Metcalf - Diontae Johnson - Tee Higgins - Michael Pittman - Chase Claypool - Elijah Moore - Christian Watson Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍 people are pessimistic because beane has not done well in the second. We should have Debo Samuel and DK Metcalf we'll be optimistic when he picks a stud in this round 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Now do the failures, the flops, the misses. I want the certainty of DHop over the roll of the dice WR and an overpay on the DL (looking at you Oliver). Many of us (myself included) wanted a redistribution of assets to the offensive side of the ball and the FO has so far been on course (Edmunds gone, hardball on Poyer, Oliver iffy). C'mon Beane bring it home with DHop!!!! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 35 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Mims is going to end up being a player I could see that. He’s in my top 10 for sure this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 47 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The last “weak” WR draft was the 2019 draft. A lot of great WRs were drafted that year. Ive considered this a weak class but that’s based on the top of the 1st round. I don’t see a true WR1 prospect but there will be WR1’s drafted in this draft. Yeah because 2019 wasn't actually a weak WR draft. Teams were just gun-shy from the bad WR drafts of 2015-2018. That was a really significant and hard to explain dry spell where a lot of teams got burned.........which re-set the expected value of WR's in the draft. Since 2019 there have been some tremendous WR drafts. Bills haven't got much to show for it but there have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah because 2019 wasn't actually a weak WR draft. Teams were just gun-shy from the bad WR drafts of 2015-2018. That was a really significant and hard to explain dry spell where a lot of teams got burned.........which re-set the expected value of WR's in the draft. Since 2019 there have been some tremendous WR drafts. Bills haven't got much to show for it but there have been. I get what you’re saying but I don’t think that’s how it works. Teams grade players and the draft plays out based on that. It was considered weak draft leading up to the draft. With that said who is the DK Metcalf of this draft? Unreal physical talent but lacking production or good film? Edited April 24, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread? It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone: - Deebo Samuel - AJ Brown - DK Metcalf - Diontae Johnson - Tee Higgins - Michael Pittman - Chase Claypool - Elijah Moore - Christian Watson Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍 So far Claypool, Moore and Pittman aren't any better than Gabe Davis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I get what you’re saying but I don’t think that’s how it works. Teams grade players and the draft plays out based on that. It was considered weak draft leading up to the draft. With that said who is the DK Metcalf of this draft? Unreal physical talent but lacking production or good film? Do you like arguing just to argue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: So far Claypool, Moore and Pittman aren't any better than Gabe Davis Pittman is 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, NewEra said: Pittman is Do the numbers actually reflect that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: Do you like arguing just to argue? No. Teams didn’t pass on WRs because of previous draft failures. Doesn’t even make sense. It was a weak draft class prospect wise. If Jamaar Chase was in the 2019 draft he’d go top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, John from Riverside said: Do the numbers actually reflect that? One has Josh allen, the other has a retired qb. I don’t care about numbers. I have eyes. As do NFL GMs. And we’ll see how they feel when the contracts are given out. barring major injury- my $100 to your 75 that Pittman gets a more lucrative contract. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, NewEra said: One has Josh allen, the other has a retired qb. I don’t care about numbers. I have eyes. As do NFL GMs. And we’ll see how they feel when the contracts are given out. barring major injury- my $100 to your 75 that Pittman gets a more lucrative contract. So the numbers don’t actually reflect that thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: So far Claypool, Moore and Pittman aren't any better than Gabe Davis I know how unpopular this is, but I expect to see more of “Good Gabe” this year if he stays healthy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread? It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone: - Deebo Samuel - AJ Brown - DK Metcalf - Diontae Johnson - Tee Higgins - Michael Pittman - Chase Claypool - Elijah Moore - Christian Watson Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍 Metcalf should have been picked at #9 and I'll go to my grave saying so 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Go OT, Mingo, AND trade for Hopkins. That’s my dream scenario. ^^ Yes I’m good with Wright at 27 - if no OT trade back again - assuming we’ve done so already with Arizona for Nuke Not going to happen. We only have room for 1 top end WR. If we trade for Hopkins, we aren't taking a WR in Rounds 1 or 2. If we take a WR in Round 1 or 2, we won't be trading for Hopkins. We have too many things to do across the roster to spend a 2nd Round Pick on a WR who would be beneath Diggs and Hopkins on the roster for 2 seasons at least. We'd need to trade at least a 3 for Hopkins, so now we're talking using all of our Day 2 Picks (and maybe more) just at WR. When we have to (at least) get a MLB, need help at OT and Interior OL, need a 2nd TE, and need a DT (every single one of our DT's are FA's next season). And with what we'd have to pay Hopkins, we need to fill all of that in the Draft. And the team isn't going to go from thinking Davis was such a solid #3 he should be promoted to #2 to he performed under par at #2 in his first season starting while dealing with injuries, so we're going to bury him on the Depth Chart at #4. Davis is going to be here for at least this season. And Beane's openly talked about wanting to re-sign him. To trade for Hopkins and Draft Mingo would be to completely give up on Davis. And I don't see Beane wanting to do that. It's either Diggs, Hopkins, Davis, and Sherfield on the Outside with Harty and Shakir in the Slot OR Diggs, A 1st or 2nd Round WR, Davis, and Sherfield on the Outside with Harty and Shakir in the Slot. At most, they'd trade for Hopkins and Draft a developmental prospect in the later rounds - but your dream scenario can't and won't happen. Edited April 24, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Metcalf should have been picked at #9 and I'll go to my grave saying so But…………… he can’t turn. 😋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Augie said: But…………… he can’t turn. 😋 People were so just flat-out STUPID in their evaluation of a guy with size AND speed. Like how easy was that pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread? Because the Bills haven't won anything is my guess 😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I get what you’re saying but I don’t think that’s how it works. Teams grade players and the draft plays out based on that. It was considered weak draft leading up to the draft. I'm sure that's how it works actually. It's just human nature to get shy about over-drafting a position when for 4 years in a row that specific position has failed to meet expectations. Littered with 1st round busts. Maybe the worst stretch of WR drought in NFL draft history. And conversely, a very strong draft like 2014 can lead to overconfidence the next season. 2015 saw 6 1st round WR's and 5 were true draft busts for those teams. Amari Cooper being the exception. 2016 class was an 0-4. Even the 2018 group with Moore and Ridley was a bit too wait and see yet compared to that awesome 2014 goup. But that 2019 WR group was a very imposing bunch of WR's on the hoof including maybe the greatest WR combine performance ever by DK. Deebo and AJ Brown also killed the pre-draft process. That would have been a 6 #1 pick class if it were evaluated in 2015 too.........and would have largely been worth it. Crazy in retrospect how Brown and (typical Patriot head scratcher) Nkeal Harry were the only 2 to go off the board in round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Josh Allen has guys that can run fast and catch the ball. Josh Allen needs an O line that can give him enough TIME to throw the ball. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: So the numbers don’t actually reflect that thanks Such a weak post John. Yes John, numbers 💯 reflect that Pittman is better. It’s 2023, I’m sure you can use the search engine of choice to show you that Pittman > Davis. Almost all the numbers reflect Pittman being better. Catches, yards, catch%, drops, Thanks to Josh Allen (and all the bum QBs throwing the ball to Pittman) Davis has more TDs and a dominant yards per reception. 16 minutes ago, Augie said: I know how unpopular this is, but I expect to see more of “Good Gabe” this year if he stays healthy. I agree. Same for Ed. It’s time to get paid. Tremaine did the same last year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Rigotz said: Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread? It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone: - Deebo Samuel - AJ Brown - DK Metcalf - Diontae Johnson - Tee Higgins - Michael Pittman - Chase Claypool - Elijah Moore - Christian Watson Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍 Good post. But here's my issue. Beane made a franchise-transforming move when he traded up and nabbed Allen. But other than that, he's been rather mediocre in the draft. Can we find a good WR in the second round? Yes, we can. Will we? Sorry, I'm not feeling your optimism - I don't think the odds are great. That's why Hopkins is attractive - he's a proven commodity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I'm sure that's how it works actually. It's just human nature to get shy about over-drafting a position when for 4 years in a row that specific position has failed to meet expectations. Littered with 1st round busts. Maybe the worst stretch of WR drought in NFL draft history. And conversely, a very strong draft like 2014 can lead to overconfidence the next season. 2015 saw 6 1st round WR's and 5 were true draft busts for those teams. Amari Cooper being the exception. 2016 class was an 0-4. Even the 2018 group with Moore and Ridley was a bit too wait and see yet compared to that awesome 2014 goup. But that 2019 WR group was a very imposing bunch of WR's on the hoof including maybe the greatest WR combine performance ever by DK. Deebo and AJ Brown also killed the pre-draft process. That would have been a 6 #1 pick class if it were evaluated in 2015 too.........and would have largely been worth it. Crazy in retrospect how Brown and (typical Patriot head scratcher) Nkeal Harry were the only 2 to go off the board in round 1. So you’re saying because of past draft failures teams lowered their grades on WR’s? Ive just never heard of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Big difference? Those draft classes likely had better WR talent to push more players into the 2nd round… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Big difference? Those draft classes likely had better WR talent to push more players into the 2nd round… 2019 had Marquis Brown and N’Keal Harry go in the late 1st. Deebo, AJ Brown, Dk, in the 2nd. Dionte Johnson, Terry McClurin in the 3rd. Hunter Renfrow in the 5th. Teams just missed out on WR talent. No one got pushed down do to talent at the top. Patriots would love a do over. In 2020 the Bills felt Gabe Davis was much higher rated but got pushed down do to the amount of highly graded WRs. Edited April 24, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Beane is resolute about not getting burnt by an expensive signing after the devastating Miller injury. Now everyone and their mother acknowledges the need to surround Josh with better weapons at RB, wide receiver and O-line. When Brandon adds the Pats abandoned RB Harris and brings in the Dolphins backup and a guy who missed last season(Hardy), that makes some fans uneasy. If he had signed one of the FA upper tier LBs, that would be one thing but this guy thinks he can reinvent the wheel with cheap dumpster diving. I’ll keep an open mind but football analysts agree, the roster needs a few important upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Mims is going to end up being a player Explosive player. He's been on the move up (unfortunately) since the Combine. Early reports had him in the third or later. I think he will go second or early third. Another very interesting guy is the Spartan Jayden Reed, pegged as a fourth or fifth round prospect in what I've seen. Another guy who is explosive and extremely competitive. Like Mims great return guy too. He's decent size but plays bigger. Edited April 24, 2023 by starrymessenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: Beane is resolute about not getting burnt by an expensive signing after the devastating Miller injury. Now everyone and their mother acknowledges the need to surround Josh with better weapons at RB, wide receiver and O-line. When Brandon adds the Pats abandoned RB Harris and brings in the Dolphins backup and a guy who missed last season(Hardy), that makes some fans uneasy. If he had signed one of the FA upper tier LBs, that would be one thing but this guy thinks he can reinvent the wheel with cheap dumpster diving. I’ll keep an open mind but football analysts agree, the roster needs a few important upgrades. They need to replace Beasley, going on year 2 trying. They also need to improve RT and LG. Im good with our RBs. Edited April 24, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: So you’re saying because of past draft failures teams lowered their grades on WR’s? Ive just never heard of that. Absolutely. Human nature to do things like copying what worked recently and shunning what hasn't trumps any perception of impartial grading. Hopefully that doesn't change because it's a lot more entertaining watching teams make emotional decisions and the consequences that follow than seeing everyone get the value they should, in theory, from their picks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They need to replace Beasley, going on year 2 trying. They also need to improve RT and LG. Im good with our RBs. Harris can’t stay on the field so far in his years with NE. Beane has not addressed the Edmunds departure and he hasn’t improved our talent level at receiver adequately. With RT and TE a need, are you confident we will improve our roster to compete with Cinn. and KC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Rigotz said: Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread? It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone: - Deebo Samuel - AJ Brown - DK Metcalf - Diontae Johnson - Tee Higgins - Michael Pittman - Chase Claypool - Elijah Moore - Christian Watson Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍 I have colleagues that can pull hot woman in the bar after 10pm. I can’t. Looking at their great track record doesn’t help my misfortune. Beane has shown himself incapable of drafting great players in the 2nd. Doesn’t matter what other GM’s have done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Yeah, that’s pretty stupid. Especially when you have a legit awesome qb which we have. im on the Mayer 🚂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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