NewEra Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/11/lions-trade-jeff-okudah-to-falcons-for-a-fifth-round-draft-pick/amp/ interesting. Dude is toast huh? Lions drafting Witherspoon or Gonzalez? Or wait til round 2 where there will be some solid options Edited April 11, 2023 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Wow what happened? Was he just injured alot? Seems early to give up on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 This is what we call a bust, folks. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Wasn't the same player after rupturing the Achilles. Just another guy now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Gotta give a GM props if they know when to cut their losses and recoup something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/11/lions-trade-jeff-okudah-to-falcons-for-a-fifth-round-draft-pick/amp/ interesting. Dude is toast huh? Lions drafting Witherspoon or Gonzalez? Or wait til round 2 where there will be some solid options 100% I think they take one of those guys unless Anderson or Carter are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Oliver should be worth a 3rd or 4th.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) What happened to him? I thought he was going to be an absolute stud. Did he lose a step because of his injury? Edit: I now see that he's missed 25 out of a possible 50 games in his three-year career. Maybe they just felt the availability issue outweighed whatever upside he had. They also had to make a decision on the fifth year by May 1. Edited April 11, 2023 by dave mcbride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, NewEra said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/11/lions-trade-jeff-okudah-to-falcons-for-a-fifth-round-draft-pick/amp/ interesting. Dude is toast huh? Lions drafting Witherspoon or Gonzalez? Or wait til round 2 where there will be some solid options The Lions needed a CB even before the trade. I expect them to draft at least two in a deep CB class. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: What happened to him? I thought he was going to be an absolute stud. Did he lose a step because of his injury? They all can't be Sauce Gardner's but then again let's see what Sauce does after his rookie season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, The Jokeman said: They all can't be Sauce Gardner's but then again let's see what Sauce does after his rookie season. I edited my post above. He's missed 25 out of 50 games and they had to decide on the fifth year option by May 1. He's starting-caliber, though, and since CBs are hard to come by ... I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: They all can't be Sauce Gardner's but then again let's see what Sauce does after his rookie season. I'm looking forward to seeing the golden child of his rookie class (Sauce) start racking up illegal contact penalties this year now the league has gotten their year of novelty out of him. It's going to be glorious when the diva in New York City's media goes apecrap publicly over all the penalties. Edited April 11, 2023 by 1ManRaid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Oliver should be worth a 3rd or 4th.... In the final year of his contract? Doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I really thought he was a slam dunk coming out. He might be as wrong as I have ever been about a player I was absolutely certain would hit. I had a huge grade on him. If he was in this class my grade on him would have him clear as the best player in the class. Think it all but locks in corner for the Lions at #6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Of what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 19 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: 100% I think they take one of those guys unless Anderson or Carter are there. seems like Det has been drafting a corner top 5 every other year my whole adult life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: seems like Det has been drafting a corner top 5 every other year my whole adult life They've drafted three since 1990. Okudah in 2020, Terry Fair with pick 20 in 1998 and Bryant Westbrook in 1997. Okudah and Westbrook were top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: seems like Det has been drafting a corner top 5 every other year my whole adult life I think you might be confusing it with wide receiver.... which they did draft in the top 10 four times in five years in the 00s. Okudah is the only round 1 corner (let alone top 5) in the last 20 odd years. I can only find two second round corners too. That must be one of, if not the, lowest investment in corner in the NFL in that period draft wise. Edited April 12, 2023 by GunnerBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I really thought he was a slam dunk coming out. He might be as wrong as I have ever been about a player I was absolutely certain would hit. I had a huge grade on him. If he was in this class my grade on him would have him clear as the best player in the class. Think it all but locks in corner for the Lions at #6. Don't get too down on yourself - he got hurt with a major injury and has missed 25 out of 50 games. You can't predict that. Edited April 12, 2023 by dave mcbride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Looks like the lock of the draft is Witherspoon going to Detroit now…Big Ten DB playing in Detroit replacing another Big Ten DB playing in Detroit…and dude is a legit baller…Okudah never really did much at Ohio State other than have the next great OSU DB pedigree but watched him get smoked by Clemson and just didn’t see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 21 hours ago, mannc said: The Lions needed a CB even before the trade. I expect them to draft at least two in a deep CB class. Any teams ahead of us, drafting positions we aren't in dire need of, is a good, good thing for us! https://youtu.be/1HW4ej9q_dU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 22 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Oliver should be worth a 3rd or 4th.... ...Refill of my coke at Dennys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 21 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I really thought he was a slam dunk coming out. He might be as wrong as I have ever been about a player I was absolutely certain would hit. I had a huge grade on him. If he was in this class my grade on him would have him clear as the best player in the class. Think it all but locks in corner for the Lions at #6. They did sign Moseley, Sutton, and Gardner-Johnson fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 22 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Oliver should be worth a 3rd or 4th.... Who is giving up a 3rd or 4th for a $10 million DT who isn’t a run stuffer, has 2.5 sacks, and is in the last year of his contract? and this dude must be cooked because Detroit needs all the D 😉, they can get. Still like buying low on a top 5 pick for Atlanta. Low risk, high reward and you could move him to S if his speed doesn’t come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: They did sign Moseley, Sutton, and Gardner-Johnson fwiw. Yea Moseley isn't a guy you want as your #1 outside, Sutton is best as a nickel and G-J is a safety. The only way they don't go corner is if they go Jalen Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I really thought he was a slam dunk coming out. He might be as wrong as I have ever been about a player I was absolutely certain would hit. I had a huge grade on him. If he was in this class my grade on him would have him clear as the best player in the class. Think it all but locks in corner for the Lions at #6. Me too. Stud prospect with no injury concerns coming out. Sometimes a GM does everything right and still rolls snake eyes. Edited April 12, 2023 by BarleyNY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 23 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I really thought he was a slam dunk coming out. He might be as wrong as I have ever been about a player I was absolutely certain would hit. I had a huge grade on him. If he was in this class my grade on him would have him clear as the best player in the class. Think it all but locks in corner for the Lions at #6. guy played great when he wasnt injured. best ability, is availability. Lions have had enough apparently. doesnt mean he cant still be a good player, if he stays healthy. 23 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: I'm looking forward to seeing the golden child of his rookie class (Sauce) start racking up illegal contact penalties this year now the league has gotten their year of novelty out of him. It's going to be glorious when the diva in New York City's media goes apecrap publicly over all the penalties. was thinking the same thing. ive never seen a rookie CB get less calls while being blatantly obvious. almost felt like he paid all the refs off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea Moseley isn't a guy you want as your #1 outside, Sutton is best as a nickel and G-J is a safety. The only way they don't go corner is if they go Jalen Carter. That makes sense - having a former corner as a coordinator does also seem like something they would want to improve at. Depends how they fall, if someone wants to jump LV or Atlanta they're in a great spot to trade down. Tampa or Washington come to mind. They can also possibly sit there and get the top scouted corner in the draft. On the other hand... the top scouted corner in the draft is the reason for this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Detroit is going to be so fun to watch. Learning how to win those close games last season and following their enthusiastic head coach, momentum is moving in the right direction. I have a friend down here who was a bit slow to renew his season tickets and lost out on the first and second levels of seating. Seeing the Gm make a move to recoup some assets now is another positive sign of a better run organization. 2 first round draft picks, I think it’s great to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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