Charles Romes Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) I thought Norv held Rivers back from a title or two. Norv was that bad and Rivers that good. Norv was lucky to have Rivers carry him along for several years. Edited February 4, 2023 by Charles Romes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Glad to see some bills fans consider night wright their friends and take his opinions to heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 14 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said: You need to broaden out your circle and speak with some people that actually understand football. Ah yes, the classic I disagree so you and everybody else don't know what you're talking about. Executed perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazinBill Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 15 hours ago, Big Turk said: Burrow actually kinda sucks in the playoffs. His stats impress no one. I get Burrow is a good QB- I'm just not so sure why so many put him above Allen- I'm holding out to see how he performs when he has minimal talent surrounding him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol first it’s way way to early to determine this! As for Allen his issue right now is the team has yet to make it so they can win even on a bad day for him. Before anyone says “no team wins when their QB isn’t good” that’s not true the Colts won a SB with Manning playing less than awesome! He made key plays but had a meh game for him.. The Bills need to be able to do that in ANY game for Allen. If for no other reason to get the pressure off the guy a bit. this was the only real counter I had… too early. But as of right now, until proven otherwise it’s a reasonable comparison. Just based purely on championship results. Chiefs went through same kind of rebuild pats did… and Tommy also ran some pretty no name wr rooms to Lombardis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Sometimes shooting the messenger is the right decision. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Einstein said: Where did they announce this? Guess I missed it. Check most major sports news organization. And a good portion of those QB Power Ranking sites. Even NFL.com has it ranked pretty close to what I said. https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-32-teams-primary-starting-quarterbacks-at-the-end-of-th https://qbrankings.theringer.com https://fansided.com/2022/12/28/nfl-quarterback-rankings-week-17-patrick-mahomes-mvp/ Ouch! https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/greg-cote/article270952902.html QBR- Allen is at #12 https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr SI has Allen as #3 but this was before we lost to Cincinnati. Most rankings that have Allen ahead of Burrow were from before the season started. https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-espn-quarterback-ranking-josh-allen-aaron-rodgers-tom-brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Rivers received 2 votes in 2008 & 2 in 2009. The one year you provided that gets me is 2010, he didn't receive any votes, so I'm not sure why you listed it? Brady was the unanimous choice that year, receiving all 50 votes. Imo you can't be a serious contender without a single vote to your credit. Rivers never finished higher than 3rd in the mvp race and Josh has already equaled his mvp vote total for his career. I see your bad takes on Josh and the other top qbs continue. So far you have 1 person that agrees with you, a known troll, that should tell you enough. Yep misread the offensive mvp 2010. so Phil got 2 votes each in 08 and 09 and Josh got 4 in 2020. not even remotely similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Yep misread the offensive mvp 2010. so Phil got 2 votes each in 08 and 09 and Josh got 4 in 2020. not even remotely similar Considering one spans his whole 17 year career and the other is only 5 years into his and has already placed higher in said mvp voting, not too similar at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Is the OP trying to imply that Josh has 27 kids? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 16 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy keep these lack luster coaches and keep having garbage drafts and rivers/marino is exactly who he'll be. burrow/mahomes will be the jim kelly to his marino for sure. decimate teams inthe regular season, but never get to the dance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 16 hours ago, DCofNC said: So far, Allen hasn’t gotten it done, Maholmes IS the unquestioned best, Burrow looks to be #2 at this point and he’s actually taken Maholmes down in their biggest games. Allen has yet to beat Maholmes in a meaningful game. I think Allen is more Farve than Rivers, he’s got that wild man to him, he’s fun to watch, he tries to do it all and his team is built just like GB, all the resources dedicated to anything but weapons on O and there are plenty of teams that are better overall, so he has to be perfect. Josh Allen in the playoffs last year against Patrick Mahomes: 27/37 for 329 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT Joe Burrow in the playoffs last year against Patrick Mahomes: 23/38 for 250 yards, 2TD, 1 INT Burrow won 27-24 Allen lost 42-36 Anybody who says Burrow is better against Mahomes than Allen is either not paying attention, or is a troll. I'm sure there will be plenty of excuses about last week as well, but again Burrow went 26-41 for 270 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT. Shockingly awful take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 There are not enough thumbs down emojis in the world for this OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: this was the only real counter I had… too early. But as of right now, until proven otherwise it’s a reasonable comparison. Just based purely on championship results. Chiefs went through same kind of rebuild pats did… and Tommy also ran some pretty no name wr rooms to Lombardis. Has nothing to do with Allen’s WR. The Bills have to learn to win when Allen has 175 yards 2 TD and 3 INT day. Yes the Pats have done that when we had Brady, the Ravens did it a lot with Flacco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 17 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy Don't worry, we traded Mahomes for Tre White(with his new knee upgrade he should be better than ever!), Dion Dawkins (Leader of a great O-Line), Zay Jones (a great #2 WR for the Jags), Siran Neal (you literally can't have enough special teams aces), and Tremaine Edmunds (can you believe he's still only 17?). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 OP, um no. Allen is widely considered one of the top 3 QB’s in the league with Hurts. Hurts. Is still newer and hasn’t accomplished as much as Allen, and yes, I know Allen has not made the SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: Check most major sports news organization. And a good portion of those QB Power Ranking sites. Even NFL.com has it ranked pretty close to what I said. https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-32-teams-primary-starting-quarterbacks-at-the-end-of-th https://qbrankings.theringer.com https://fansided.com/2022/12/28/nfl-quarterback-rankings-week-17-patrick-mahomes-mvp/ Ouch! https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/greg-cote/article270952902.html QBR- Allen is at #12 https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr SI has Allen as #3 but this was before we lost to Cincinnati. Most rankings that have Allen ahead of Burrow were from before the season started. https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-espn-quarterback-ranking-josh-allen-aaron-rodgers-tom-brady What does this have to do with a golf match? You said it’s Mahomes and Burrow in this years golf match… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Give Josh Gates, LT and Vincent Jackson and then we can talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 18 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy dude you want Josh Rosen on draft night and the good news you can probably hire him now 2 hours ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: Check most major sports news organization. And a good portion of those QB Power Ranking sites. Even NFL.com has it ranked pretty close to what I said. https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-32-teams-primary-starting-quarterbacks-at-the-end-of-th https://qbrankings.theringer.com https://fansided.com/2022/12/28/nfl-quarterback-rankings-week-17-patrick-mahomes-mvp/ Ouch! https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/greg-cote/article270952902.html QBR- Allen is at #12 https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr SI has Allen as #3 but this was before we lost to Cincinnati. Most rankings that have Allen ahead of Burrow were from before the season started. https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-espn-quarterback-ranking-josh-allen-aaron-rodgers-tom-brady Here’s an idea we need to call up Frisco and deal Josh for Trey Lance? Who says no I know you wouldn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Sharky7337 said: Glad to see some bills fans consider night wright their friends and take his opinions to heart. You should see the OP in the game threads he’s a pats fan but goes under his 29 years of fan hood to troll bills fans….he often disappears when Josh has a good game funny how that works 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: You should see the OP in the game threads he’s a pats fan but goes under his 29 years of fan hood to troll bills fans….he often disappears when Josh has a good game funny how that works 100% incorrect. you should be embarrassed fabricating these things… Just realistic about where the team is right now. Are you happy they keep blowing it year after year after year? Go watch Kurt Warners recap of the playoff loss. QB play was a major issue. Phil used to blow it the the playoffs too. Still a HOF talent. Sorry having some perspective is so tough for you. I’m sure you think Jim Kelly was the greatest qb in history during his day too. Edited February 4, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: dude you want Josh Rosen on draft night and the good news you can probably hire him now Here’s an idea we need to call up Frisco and deal Josh for Trey Lance? Who says no I know you wouldn’t Take your meds bud.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 19 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy are you like 12? Give me my 30 seconds back I wasted on this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 So it’s effectively divided into 1) adults saying here’s why I disagree with that take 2) adults saying yeah… I can see it 3) waaaaaaah how dare you reiterate a controversial take about a pattern I'm too mentally soft to consider there is also the fact that Rivers was really really good but never finished in the playoffs. thanks 1s and 2s. Feel sorry for the 3s… the thread title probably really hurt emotionally. 😭 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Take your meds bud.. Hey it happens I wanted Breece Hall or George Pickens in the draft and they took Elam we all can’t get what we want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I spoke to 3 different football fans today, and all would rather have Allen than Burrow. To me the question is McDermott. He needs to get this team over the hump. I think he will, but he's been out coached in the playoffs twice in a row now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 100% incorrect. you should be embarrassed fabricating these things… Just realistic about where the team is right now. Are you happy they keep blowing it year after year after year? Go watch Kurt Warners recap of the playoff loss. QB play was a major issue. Phil used to blow it the the playoffs too. Still a HOF talent. Sorry having some perspective is so tough for you. I’m sure you think Jim Kelly was the greatest qb in history during his day too. Hey look I know you’re a Mac Jones guy they just need to get him a couple wrs and I could see them getting a wildcard spot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Einstein said: What does this have to do with a golf match? You said it’s Mahomes and Burrow in this years golf match… No I didn't. I said it was Mahomes and Burrow getting the spotlight as the 2 top dogs in the AFC. Last year it was Josh and Mahomes, this year it is Joe Cool being considered the front runner behind Mahomes. I could care less about golf. Josh likes it so I hope he has a good time. the Pro Bowl isn't worth it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 100% incorrect. you should be embarrassed fabricating these things… Just realistic about where the team is right now. Are you happy they keep blowing it year after year after year? Go watch Kurt Warners recap of the playoff loss. QB play was a major issue. Phil used to blow it the the playoffs too. Still a HOF talent. Sorry having some perspective is so tough for you. I’m sure you think Jim Kelly was the greatest qb in history during his day too. Its nice when you can put everyone in their own little buckets but its not realistic, nor is it perspective, its just convenience. I remember when people were saying Luck/RG3/Wilson were the "new gen" and everyone predicted years upon years of success. 10 years later and 2 have been retired for several years and the 3rd is a shell of what he was. Stop trying to paint everyone in their damn boxes and respect what you see Allen do what he does on the field which is a hell of a lot more than Rivers. Edited February 4, 2023 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Hey look I know you’re a Mac Jones guy they just need to get him a couple wrs and I could see them getting a wildcard spot Good luck with that 23 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: are you like 12? Give me my 30 seconds back I wasted on this Uh oh ur wife hacked your account Edited February 4, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: OP, um no. Allen is widely considered one of the top 3 QB’s in the league with Hurts. Hurts. Is still newer and hasn’t accomplished as much as Allen, and yes, I know Allen has not made the SB. You are right Allen is considered top 3. You are wrong about Hurts. The top 3 are Mahomes Borrows Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Gonna be a long offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I've always liked the Rivers and Favre comparisons, tbh. Both great QBs with similar attitudes to the game. I'll enjoy watching Josh regardless of championships. They mean nothing to me, besides feeling happy/sad for the team if they do/don't win one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: I spoke to 3 different football fans today, and all would rather have Allen than Burrow. To me the question is McDermott. He needs to get this team over the hump. I think he will, but he's been out coached in the playoffs twice in a row now. That be a close call for me. Just because Burrows has that swagger about him that seems to make the people around him play better. Mind you both are great players but to say Allen > Burrows right now is premature.. Burrows in 2 full seasons has gone to the SB once and the AFCCG game twice… Allen hasn’t made either yet.. Is Allen more talented? Yes, so was Peyton to Brady, hell Rogers had more than both and we know which one is the GOAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: You are right Allen is considered top 3. You are wrong about Hurts. The top 3 are Mahomes Borrows Allen Burrow is excellent now and he is Joe Cool. Hurts is just earlier in his development. I didn’t add Brady and Rodgers as we won’t know if Brady truly stays retired. Who knows where Rodgers will end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: That be a close call for me. Just because Burrows has that swagger about him that seems to make the people around him play better. Mind you both are great players but to say Allen > Burrows right now is premature.. Burrows in 2 full seasons has gone to the SB once and the AFCCG game twice… Allen hasn’t made either yet.. Is Allen more talented? Yes, so was Peyton to Brady, hell Rogers had more than both and we know which one is the GOAT. Yeah Allen and the Bills made the AFC Championship Game in 2020. Allen has statistically been the better QB than Burrow in the playoffs, but then again several QBs are. Burrow has led a playoff offense that averages only 22 ppg now 7 playoff games into his career. He's lost twice with a defense that's never given up more than 24 points and averages giving up 18.8 ppg in those 7 games. And a fg kicker who is 19/19. He's led them on only 14 td drives and 19 fg drives lol. That's horrible QB play. As I said he's so far behind Allen statically in 1 less game in the playoffs that if he was to equal Allen's numbers this is what his next game would have look like: 508 yards passing, 8 passing tds, 0 ints, 316 yards rushing, 1 rushing td, 16 yards receiving, 1 receiving td. Getting to and/or winning a Super Bowl is a team accomplishment, credit shouldn't go to a single player. Unless maybe where elite play warrants it. It doesn't in this case. Burrow has been surrounded by an elite playoff defense, an elite playoff kicker, the best WR trio in the game, a great coaching staff and he's squandered it 2 years running. Josh could only be so lucky to have everything Burrow has had at his disposal. What's that Tee Higgins wants #1 WR money? Time's a ticking Joe until the playing field is on more evened ground. Edited February 5, 2023 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJBrown7 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 22 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard today. And I spent the entire day in Kentucky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Rigotz said: Josh Allen in the playoffs last year against Patrick Mahomes: 27/37 for 329 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT Joe Burrow in the playoffs last year against Patrick Mahomes: 23/38 for 250 yards, 2TD, 1 INT Burrow won 27-24 Allen lost 42-36 Anybody who says Burrow is better against Mahomes than Allen is either not paying attention, or is a troll. I'm sure there will be plenty of excuses about last week as well, but again Burrow went 26-41 for 270 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT. Shockingly awful take. Burrow has beaten Maholmes when it matters, Allen hasn’t. That’s not a take, that’s fact. Burrow has also beaten Maholmes more in the regular season as well. Burrow had a far better year than Allen this year, that’s fact. Burrow destroyed the Bills and Allen, that’s fact. Burrow is currently regarded as the better QB by everyone that doesn’t love the Bills. 20 hours ago, Success said: Allen hasn't beaten Mahomes in meaningful games? This isn't tennis. Allen played better than Mahomes last year, and drove the Bills to what should have been a win, IN Kansas City. Yeah? Who won? Who has the credit for the game winning drive? Who has won every playoff match-up? Sorry, but moral victories don’t count in the real world. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Burrow has beaten Maholmes when it matters, Allen hasn’t. That’s not a take, that’s fact. Burrow has also beaten Maholmes more in the regular season as well. Burrow had a far better year than Allen this year, that’s fact. Burrow destroyed the Bills and Allen, that’s fact. Burrow is currently regarded as the better QB by everyone that doesn’t love the Bills. Yeah? Who won? Who has the credit for the game winning drive? Who has won every playoff match-up? Sorry, but moral victories don’t count in the real world. Automatically disagree with takes that gives a single player credit for a team accomplishment. 12 other qbs could've reached the Super Bowl last year with that defense, that coaching staff, that WR trio and that fg kicker. But hey go give all the credit to the man who did the least out of those I listed on his team. Averages 22 ppg, led an offense that only scored a td on 16.6% of their drives, but kicked fgs on 33.2% of their droves. Led the offense to 7 tds in 4 games. Way to go Joe, you killed it!!! Edited February 5, 2023 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Yeah Allen and the Bills made the AFC Championship Game in 2020. Allen has statistically been the better QB than Burrow in the playoffs, but then again several QBs are. Burrow has led a playoff offense that averages only 22 ppg now 7 playoff games into his career. He's lost twice with a defense that's never given up more than 24 points and averages giving up 18.8 ppg in those 7 games. And a fg kicker who is 19/19. He's led them on only 14 td drives and 19 fg drives lol. That's horrible QB play. As I said he's so far behind Allen statically in 1 less game in the playoffs that if he was to equal Allen's numbers this is what his next game would have look like: 508 yards passing, 8 passing tds, 0 ints, 316 yards rushing, 1 rushing td, 16 yards receiving, 1 receiving td. Getting to and/or winning a Super Bowl is a team accomplishment, credit shouldn't go to a single player. Unless maybe where elite play warrants it. It doesn't in this case. Burrow has been surrounded by an elite playoff defense, an elite playoff kicker, the best WR trio in the game, a great coaching staff and he's squandered it 2 years running. Josh could only be so lucky to have everything Burrow has had at his disposal. What's that Tee Higgins wants #1 WR money? Time's a ticking Joe until the playing field is on more evened ground. I forgot that was the AFCCG in 2021 I thought was division round.. I stand corrected. Sigh the rest is excuse making I heard so much from Colts fans threw the Peyton years.. sadly your wrong about this for Allen, the Bills had the better Defense than the Bengals this year, as for coaching I don’t think the Bengals are any better. The true difference is the. E gals drafts better than most everyone else and has a lot of young elite talent out there on O. Those 3 WR are awesome but their O line is definitely inferior to the Bills O line which wasn’t very good either. The truth is the Bengals the last 2 years have excelled in the playoffs.. The Bills were 13 seconds last year from being repeats in the AFC Game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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