Chicken Boo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: On a team that only has a running attack he finally got some work in. He flashed so much he has only seen meaningful playing time in 1 of his 5 NFL seasons. Jeff Wilson has a similar career arc and he also played in a run first offense until he was traded to Miami. You guys are in love with career backups. I bow to your superior judgement. The irony. Singletary is a backup level RB in a starting RB position. Hence the lack of production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 14 hours ago, Lagoon Blues said: Cook better learn to be a better blocker in the offseason if they let him move on. Blocking is a MUCH more important element to a RB in our system than people give credit. Our offensive line cant block why should our RBs? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) He's better than most of you think, but he has made a few glaring errors. If he played on a team with an NFL caliber OL you'd see it. I'd guess about half a dozen teams. I know some are in denial, but I'm just being realistic. Also, I'm not sold on Cook either. If Singletary walks, we will need to sign or draft a #1 RB. Edited February 3, 2023 by GreggTX 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Singletary could be a rotational back with plenty of teams. For the Bills, he’s not worth a pay raise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 hours ago, IronyAbounds said: It's very curious, but many of those disparaging Singletary are also severe critics of the OL. Seems to me that someone who puts up the numbers DS did behind an atrocious OL might actually be pretty good, and conversely, backs that put up better numbers on other teams probably would put up much worse numbers if they had to play in Buffalo with its offensive schemes and lousy OL. I like DS and if the number is right I'd resign him. I'm not a huge Motor fan but you do make a good point. If I had a choice to upgrade the RB position or OL, I'd choose the OL. Motor is serviceable and he'd been even better behind a line that could actually open up holes. And Josh needs a bodyguard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 17 hours ago, HOUSE said: Singletary is a very durable running back. He rarely fumbles and an above average blocker. He is pretty good as a receiver too You might be surprised how many teams would sign him. . Doesn't land as satire because only 3/4 analyses are comically incorrect. Singletary IS fairly durable for an RB, yet he fumbles often, blocks meh, and has the worst hands I've ever seen for an offensive skill position player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, MasterStrategist said: Please look at this list and tell me who is signing Motor, for $5.5m or to be a starter. Understandably some of these Rbs are FAs too, but this is comparing how Motor would rank. I'd find maybe 4 teams, other than us. Where Motor would be either an upgrade or worth $5.5m as a "1b". Dolphins, Pats, Rams, and Panthers. And personally can't see the Phins or Pats as being interested. Definitely No (order is random): 1. Jets - Breece Hall and Zonovan Knight 2. Ravens - JK and Edwards 3. Steelers - Najee and Warren 4. Browns - Chubb and Hunt 6. Bengals - Mixon and Perrine 7. Houston - Pierce 8. Colts - Taylor 9. Jags - Etienne 10. Titans - Henry 11. Broncos - Javonte 12. Raiders - Jacobs 13. Chargers - Ekeler 14. Chiefs - Pachecho and McKinnon 15. Cowboys- Pollard and Zeke 16. Giants - Barkley 17. Eagles - Sanders and Gainwell 18. Bears - Montgomery and Herbert 19. Lions - Jamal and Swift 20. Pack - Jones and Dillon 21. Vikings - Cook and Mattisson 22. Falcons - Allgeirer and Patterson 23. Saints - Kamara and Ingram 24. Bucs - Fournette and White 25. Cards - Conner and Williams 26. 49ers - Cmac and Mitchell 27. Hawks - Walker and Penny 28. Commanders - Robinson and Gibson At least eliminate the FA’s off that list…. Barkley, Hunt, Jacobs, Mattison, Montgomery, Jamal Williams, Miles Sanders, etc. Some will definitely be resigned and some will move around, but those backfields won’t be the same. I highly doubt Singletary will get $5.5MM (I’d prefer Beane spend that $ on a guard), but he’ll definitely get some decent cash and land in a spot where he gets some real usage. If I had to guess I’d go with 3 years $10-$12MM in a split roll. He had rather good games against Cleveland, Chicago, and Detroit all of which may be looking to replace a RB in their rotation along with the Raiders and a few others. Factor in his pass blocking and he’ll find a home and some solid money. He’s also versed in our system which will translate to NYG, LV, and NE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 18 hours ago, Lagoon Blues said: Though not a top tier back, I do think that his ranking is partially due to the offensive scheme. Only my opinion of course but I believe he is a slightly better back then you give him credit for. he is not a starter IMHO. But dam good back up at 3 mill a year. lol i hope. He can spot start for injuries and do fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 17 hours ago, dave mcbride said: I just compared him with a random “name” running back, Joe Mixon. Over his career, Singletary has 13 fumbles on 817 touches, and he had 3 this year: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SingDe00.htm Mixon, on the other hand, has 6 fumbles on 1,545 touches, and he had zero this year. In fact, he has had 3 seasons with zero fumbles: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MixoJo00.htm I don't see Mixon fitting into the culture here if the Bengals cut him even though he's pry an upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: He does well in YPC because he doesn't get a lot of carries and the Bills are a passing team. Singletary is rarely, if ever, the reason we win. Opponents focus on Josh and the receivers. Many years ago, I remember teams keeping a spy on OJ. Now they keep a spy on Josh. That’s not because of Devin, that’s because we just don’t run much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Every extra penny we can scrounge in fa goes to OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: The irony. Singletary is a backup level RB in a starting RB position. Hence the lack of production. Nonsense. The lack of production comes from lack of run plays, which is something any team with Josh Allen on it will logically go with. Again, he's done very well per snap behind an OL that's not that great. Saying he's backup level simply says more about you than it does about him. Want to say he's not in the top half of starters? Now you've got at least a reasonable argument. DVOA has him 17th in DVOA and 20th in DYAR, and 13th in Success Rate. They have two stats, Adjusted Line Yards and RB Yards, where they assign blame/credit for the success of runs to either the OL or to the RB. If Adjusted LIne Yards are higher than RB yards, the line gets more credit for their success. If RB yards are higher than ALY, the RBs did well despite unimpressive blocking. The Bills RB yards were a great deal higher (0.45 yards per carry) than the Adjusted Line Yards, meaning the RBs got a lot for what the blocking was. Only five other teams had a better differential there: Dallas, Baltimore, Washington, Seattle and Jax. The backs were pretty solid this year, very much including Singletary. Edited February 3, 2023 by Thurman#1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 8 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm not trying to be mean, but you're a poor judge of RB talent. Donta Foreman's year since he became a starter has flashed more potential than Singletary ever has. He has more 100 yard performances in 12 games than Singletary has had in his 4 year career. Jeff Wilson Jr. and Mostert are both better than Devin as well. I can't ever see Motor rushing for 200 yards. You're not being mean, you're just not getting the concept. It's clear that you don't get this, and I absolutely can't understand why. It's not rocket science. Number of 100 yard games correlates much better with number of carries given than they do anything else. They're far more about play calling than RB talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Foreman has had one good year and it all happened after CMC got dealt. Dude has never started on his own teams. Singletary's career production is so much more than Foreman. I guess he just never got his shot in that crowded Houston backfield.... 3 of Devin's 4 years are more productive than Herbert's best year as a pro. Miami has one RB who is Devin's equal and a bunch of bums. This list is ridiculous. Foreman has been injured for multiple yrs when he got bk he signed with Tennessee mid season the week Henry got hurt . Without a training camp without a good offensive line he proceeded to put up really good numbers he had 3 100+ yd rushing performances while seeing 8man boxes the majority of the time. Foreman did start in Houston and he was on roll before getting the devastating injuries that set him bk nearly 2 1/2 yrs so your wrong about that. In Carolina he was signed in off-season had his first training camp since being a rookie after McC got traded he proceeded to have 4 100 yd games in 9 weeks. If anyone thinks that’s a better situation then Buffalo there insane . All in all he has 7 , 100yd games in the last 16 games combined as the starter. Guess how much Singletary has in last 2yrs 34games a whopping 2 what a freakin scrub. I’d take Foreman of Singletary any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Herbert as a bkup has more 100yd performances then Singletary and ripped off way more big runs and his yds after contact rate is much higher then Singletary. Herbert would be great in Buffalo as well as Foreman. When it comes to Singletary all I hear is excuses it’s everyone fault but his it’s his Oline but just look at Carolina or Titans lines there no better plus they don’t have the luxury of having Josh freakin Allen right next to them or those 6 man light boxes Singletary sees the majority of the time. Ask any rb in the league and he’ll tell u give me that situation in Buffalo rather then play with a horrible team . RBs would rather have a mid pack Oline and see 6 man boxes rather then having a good Oline with 8 man boxes. Buddy go back and do more research because if u believe Singletary is a ounce better then a average back your insane bud and please stop with the excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 56 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: You're not being mean, you're just not getting the concept. It's clear that you don't get this, and I absolutely can't understand why. It's not rocket science. Number of 100 yard games correlates much better with number of carries given than they do anything else. They're far more about play calling than RB talent. Singletary doesn't have the size to carry a big load week in week out this is one of my issues with him. He also hasn’t earned the respect of his coaches to gain such a load even if he could do it. God forbid Allen gets hurt Singletary won’t be able to help carry the team and his play would drop significantly considerably defensives don’t respect him enough when Allen is there to even gameplan for but if Alle is hurt and he becomes a focal point u would see this kid just don’t have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Foreman has been injured for multiple yrs when he got bk he signed with Tennessee mid season the week Henry got hurt . Without a training camp without a good offensive line he proceeded to put up really good numbers he had 3 100+ yd rushing performances while seeing 8man boxes the majority of the time. Foreman did start in Houston and he was on roll before getting the devastating injuries that set him bk nearly 2 1/2 yrs so your wrong about that. In Carolina he was signed in off-season had his first training camp since being a rookie after McC got traded he proceeded to have 4 100 yd games in 9 weeks. If anyone thinks that’s a better situation then Buffalo there insane . All in all he has 7 , 100yd games in the last 16 games combined as the starter. Guess how much Singletary has in last 2yrs 34games a whopping 2 what a freakin scrub. I’d take Foreman of Singletary any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Herbert as a bkup has more 100yd performances then Singletary and ripped off way more big runs and his yds after contact rate is much higher then Singletary. Herbert would be great in Buffalo as well as Foreman. When it comes to Singletary all I hear is excuses it’s everyone fault but his it’s his Oline but just look at Carolina or Titans lines there no better plus they don’t have the luxury of having Josh freakin Allen right next to them or those 6 man light boxes Singletary sees the majority of the time. Ask any rb in the league and he’ll tell u give me that situation in Buffalo rather then play with a horrible team . RBs would rather have a mid pack Oline and see 6 man boxes rather then having a good Oline with 8 man boxes. Buddy go back and do more research because if u believe Singletary is a ounce better then a average back your insane bud and please stop with the excuses. 6 man boxes doesn't mean much if your getting hit in the backfield. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 13 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: He could start for a number of teams, and I think he will be signed as a starter for this next season by someone. Devin has a very good YPC average for his career and has developed into a good pass catcher (had the highest catch rate on the team most the year). He has done that on a team with no run game design, bad OL play, and OC's allergic to establishing the run too. He is a lot better than your post indicates. He isn't a top tier RB, but he will be a quality player for someone next year IMHO. If we used him all year last year like we did down the stretch and playoffs, he would have had 1400 yards rushing and 17 TD's based on the stats he was putting up in those games where he had at least 12 carries. He would have rushed for 1200 -1400 yards here both last year and this year if they just gave him an average of around 15 carries. And again, that is on a team with a bad OL. Personally, I think he could end up in Las Vegas if Jacobs leaves or maybe someone like Carolina, Saints, KC, TB, or Houston where he could either be brought in to start or at least compete to start. I am not saying he is a future pro-bowler, but he just isn't as bad as your OP suggests. Touches are earned not givin if the Bills has a better back they would get more touches I truly believe this . The fact is Singleary has had this weird relationship in Buffalo where he becomes the back by default I blame that on Beane for not finding a better replacement. We all know here he tried but he seems to not know what a good back looks like as he’s wasted 3 high pks on backs in the last 4 drafts. Taking Moss over Herbert and Cook over Pierce is prime examples of that and if u want more he took Singletary over Pollard to. This all falls on Beane and McD they seem not to be able to draft any players that are good outside then a select few and other then the secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 23 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I hope he gets paid but I would be shocked if he got that kind of money . I just don’t respect him much I mean, he plays in the NFL, I respect him just for that. He also seems to be a good person and a team player. Lots of things to respect about him, including his play on the field. He’s not going to bust plays open very often but he is a productive back most of the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: 6 man boxes doesn't mean much if your getting hit in the backfield. 😉 Every back gets hit in bkfield this is no excuse and yes ask any back they would rather see light boxes and play next to an elite QB then have a good Oline and see constant 8 man fronts . I would love to see how good Singletary is when he plays for a crappy team like the Panthers or Texans he would average 3yds a carry. I can’t understand this love affair with him he’s awful and never shows up when u really need him. He has a 2.7yds per carry average the last 2 playoff losses in KC and he fumbled in one of those games. He’s not the back that’s gonna help this team get to the next level we need better I can’t understand why people don’t understand this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: I mean, he plays in the NFL, I respect him just for that. He also seems to be a good person and a team player. Lots of things to respect about him, including his play on the field. He’s not going to bust plays open very often but he is a productive back most of the time. He’s a bkup playing starter for the Bills we will all see what his value is this off-season and how many teams see him as a starter on there teams. I’m willing to bet he doesn’t get a starter job and doesn’t get near that 5.5 mil yearly average spotrac has him earning. Then we’ll see the respect he has of his peers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Every back gets hit in bkfield this is no excuse and yes ask any back they would rather see light boxes and play next to an elite QB then have a good Oline and see constant 8 man fronts . I would love to see how good Singletary is when he plays for a crappy team like the Panthers or Texans he would average 3yds a carry. I can’t understand this love affair with him he’s awful and never shows up when u really need him. He has a 2.7yds per carry average the last 2 playoff losses in KC and he fumbled in one of those games. He’s not the back that’s gonna help this team get to the next level we need better I can’t understand why people don’t understand this. Of course any back would like a light box, I'm sure most would also like to average more than 10 carries a game. Give him an OL and a chance to get there. You can't just pick 2 games (loses at that) against KC and use it as a "Fact" to try and argue your position. The least you could do is use recent or career stats, but I guess that wouldn't help your case. Why not 4.6 over the last 2 playoff games THIS season or 4.7 over his career? I get it, you don't like Singletary. That's your opinion. Some of us think he is better than he gets credit for. That's my opinion. To each their own. But at least use numbers fairly and don't just pick random ones cause they fit your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: Of course any back would like a light box, I'm sure most would also like to average more than 10 carries a game. Give him an OL and a chance to get there. You can't just pick 2 games (loses at that) against KC and use it as a "Fact" to try and argue your position. The least you could do is use recent or career stats, but I guess that wouldn't help your case. Why not 4.6 over the last 2 playoff games THIS season or 4.7 over his career? I get it, you don't like Singletary. That's your opinion. Some of us think he is better than he gets credit for. That's my opinion. To each their own. But at least use numbers fairly and don't just pick random ones cause they fit your opinion. My point is he doesn’t rise to The occasion. 25 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: Of course any back would like a light box, I'm sure most would also like to average more than 10 carries a game. Give him an OL and a chance to get there. You can't just pick 2 games (loses at that) against KC and use it as a "Fact" to try and argue your position. The least you could do is use recent or career stats, but I guess that wouldn't help your case. Why not 4.6 over the last 2 playoff games THIS season or 4.7 over his career? I get it, you don't like Singletary. That's your opinion. Some of us think he is better than he gets credit for. That's my opinion. To each their own. But at least use numbers fairly and don't just pick random ones cause they fit your opinion. Also like I said touches are earned not just given if he was let’s say a Dobbins type back or Chubb or some other players he would command more of a work load. U earn your touches in this league whether your a RB, Wr or any other positions u have to earn it! Singletary has not earned it … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MasterStrategist Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: That’s not because of Devin, that’s because we just don’t run much It's a combo of both, IMO. Not using him and teams focused on other aspects of our offense, that are better than Motor. Motor bought value when he was on a rookie contract. Now that he is going to cost something $3-$5.5m per year, he needs replaced with a cheaper option. 6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: That’s not because of Devin, that’s because we just don’t run much It's a combo of both, IMO. Not using him and teams focused on other aspects of our offense, that are better than Motor. Motor bought value when he was on a rookie contract. Now that he is going to cost something $3-$5.5m per year, he needs replaced with a cheaper option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 47 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: My point is he doesn’t rise to The occasion. Also like I said touches are earned not just given if he was let’s say a Dobbins type back or Chubb or some other players he would command more of a work load. U earn your touches in this league whether your a RB, Wr or any other positions u have to earn it! Singletary has not earned it … And I disagree. I think he does everything he is asked to do in the system we run. Blocks, catches and gets 4.6+ yards a carry while splitting carries in a rotation. Give him 15+ carries a game, a respectable OL and he's a 1,000+ yd rusher. He's earned more touches, we just don't give them to him like we should. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 He’s a nice player. Great for sharing duties. As for the answer to the thread topic, I think other than Buffalo, I don’t see him starting for another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 If Devin is a fringe NFL player and only seeing meaningful snaps due to organizational incompetence, what does that say about Cook? RB is the easiest position on the field to transition to out of college and Cook is struggling to separate himself. Hines can't get on the field. Are we doomed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 2 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said: And I disagree. I think he does everything he is asked to do in the system we run. Blocks, catches and gets 4.6+ yards a carry while splitting carries in a rotation. Give him 15+ carries a game, a respectable OL and he's a 1,000+ yd rusher. He's earned more touches, we just don't give them to him like we should. Here’s the problem your looking for 1000 yd rusher im looking for 1600yd rusher. Singletary can get 1000 but is he capable of putting up elite stats absolutely not! We need better and u and the rest of our fan base should want better also. 34 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: If Devin is a fringe NFL player and only seeing meaningful snaps due to organizational incompetence, what does that say about Cook? RB is the easiest position on the field to transition to out of college and Cook is struggling to separate himself. Hines can't get on the field. Are we doomed? Finally something we agree on its McBeane just look at all the backs they’ve brought in since they been here look at all the Oline man all jags! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: If Devin is a fringe NFL player and only seeing meaningful snaps due to organizational incompetence, what does that say about Cook? RB is the easiest position on the field to transition to out of college and Cook is struggling to separate himself. Hines can't get on the field. Are we doomed? DS is mediocre, but he's light years ahead of Cook. Cook runs like he's in mud. He's just got zero acceleration. There was a play against the Bengals where the right edge was sealed beautifully and it looked like a big play, but it took Cook forever to get to the edge and he got buried for a two yard gain. Both RBs have inflated YPC numbers because Josh gets the short yardage carries. Those numbers are fool's gold. Edited February 3, 2023 by Billl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 So I always circle around to how would motor do if we didn’t have a franchise QB, and he had to carry the load My answer to this always ends up being not well now some of this is not his fault. The team is not built as it’s currently constructed to knuckle down and grind out a touchdown on the ground win a good defense is game planning to stop it motor has always had the benefit of being able to run against light boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Just now, Billl said: DS is mediocre, but he's light years ahead of Cook. Cook runs like he's in mud. He's just got zero acceleration. There was a play against the Bengals where the right edge was sealed beautifully and it looked like a big play, but it took Cook forever to get to the edge and he got buried for a two yard gain. All the speed queens in this thread are going to love watching Cook go down at first contact. Something tells me their tune will quickly change to "its the offensive line, stupid!" next year. But for now they keep beating the drum of waste premium assets on a RB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: You're not being mean, you're just not getting the concept. It's clear that you don't get this, and I absolutely can't understand why. It's not rocket science. Number of 100 yard games correlates much better with number of carries given than they do anything else. They're far more about play calling than RB talent. Only on this board is Singletary anything more than an average back that simply cannot and should not be replaced. You think he's a better running back than Donta Foreman? Based on what exactly? "Adjusted stats", meaning stuff that never happened, but could possibly under the right circumstances. You're making this harder than it needs to be. I have eyes. I can see. Devin Singletary is an average running back and his spot on this team should be upgraded. End of story. 2 hours ago, Jauronimo said: If Devin is a fringe NFL player and only seeing meaningful snaps due to organizational incompetence, what does that say about Cook? RB is the easiest position on the field to transition to out of college and Cook is struggling to separate himself. Hines can't get on the field. Are we doomed? Cook isn't struggling to separate himself. Anyone with eyes can see he's the more dynamic back. He isn't getting the opportunities his play on the field warrants. We have a coaching staff with no imagination. A coaching staff that thought Isaiah McKenzie was worth keeping over Isaiah Hodgins who is now tearing it up with the Giants. A coaching staff that, instead of giving Shakir a chance, went out and signed a semi-retired, past prime Cole Beasley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) On 2/2/2023 at 8:15 AM, NastyNateSoldiers said: Again he sees light boxes and again he’s not built to carry any loads for long stretches of the season. Part of the reason he has a higher per carry is because he’s not getting many Carrie’s. He’s a average back nothing about him jumps out at u . He’s small but not fast not strong not nothing just a jag. So what? So do lots of backs. Show me one team that really plays to stop the run on a consistent basis and I will show you a team that probably has 4 or 5 wins. Edited February 3, 2023 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 2 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Here’s the problem your looking for 1000 yd rusher im looking for 1600yd rusher. Singletary can get 1000 but is he capable of putting up elite stats absolutely not! We need better and u and the rest of our fan base should want better also. Finally something we agree on its McBeane just look at all the backs they’ve brought in since they been here look at all the Oline man all jags! LOL. In our system. LOL. You made my stomach hurt. LOL... 1600 yards. LOL... At least know I know why you are down on Singletary. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Thanks, been a rough day at work, I really needed this. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Please no more today.🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 8:28 AM, Johnnyp566 said: Love him but it’s time to move on. Let Cook take over and have an explosive element on the field at all times by pairing him with another explosive back. would love to draft a thumper to pair Cook with. No more short-yard runs for Allen. Get an Ingram/Kamara thing going. First, I think the OL needs to be repaired, or all the backs and QBs get crushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: So what? So do lots of backs. Show me one team that really plays to stop the run on a consistent basis and I will show you a team that probably has 4 or 5 wins. A statical fact that the Bills have seen the most light boxes in the league the last 3yrs. On top that Singletary has the luxury that teams are watching for Allen taking off and running he should be much better then he is. All I’m saying is I want better much better then what Singletary offers . The rest of u should also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 My guess is he gets a 1 yr prove it deal somewhere. He has the YPC to want to get paid, but his tape says he is replaceable by just about any street free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Just a visual for the homers trying to defend Singletary and his horrendous athletic profile, here is a radar chart of his athletic profile just to illustrate how laughable it is. This is why I call him Dingleberry. He has no place on an explosive offense, he hinders the offense. Needs to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, LyndonvilleBill said: LOL. In our system. LOL. You made my stomach hurt. LOL... 1600 yards. LOL... At least know I know why you are down on Singletary. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Thanks, been a rough day at work, I really needed this. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Please no more today.🤣🤣🤣🤣 If our system doesn’t support a great back u should be crying instead of laughing hate to ruin your day again. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 minute ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: If our system doesn’t support a great back u should be crying instead of laughing hate to ruin your day again. lol Handing the ball off to a RB versus Allen keeping it is always a win for the defense. Trust me, they would love nothing more than for us to keep handing it off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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