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[CNYfan]

18 minutes ago, Yantha said:

The longer I look....  the weaker this O-line class looks.  Hoping we address the O-line heavilly in the free agency so that we don't have to rely on this draft.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a new right tackle and a new OG in free agency as INSTANT worry-free upgrades?

 

 

Like Derrick Dockery  and Langston McKinney?  Forgive me as I disagree,  and see more value at talent in the draft.  

[Bigvinny]

 

27: R1 P27 OT Paris Johnson Jr. - Ohio State

59: R2 P28 C John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota

91: R3 P28 WR A.T. Perry - Wake Forest

130: R4 P28 RB Tank Bigsby - Auburn

139: R5 P3 EDGE Dylan Horton - TCU

164: R5 P28 LB Ventrell Miller - Florida

[SoCal Deek]

10 minutes ago, Bigvinny said:

 

27: R1 P27 OT Paris Johnson Jr. - Ohio State

59: R2 P28 C John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota

91: R3 P28 WR A.T. Perry - Wake Forest

130: R4 P28 RB Tank Bigsby - Auburn

139: R5 P3 EDGE Dylan Horton - TCU

164: R5 P28 LB Ventrell Miller - Florida

Ya gotta love a running back named Tank Bigsby! 👍

[The Jokeman]

11 hours ago, CNYfan said:

Like Derrick Dockery  and Langston McKinney?  Forgive me as I disagree,  and see more value at talent in the draft.  

Langston Walker*

[TheBeaneBandit]

12 hours ago, Yantha said:

The longer I look....  the weaker this O-line class looks.  Hoping we address the O-line heavilly in the free agency so that we don't have to rely on this draft.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a new right tackle and a new OG in free agency as INSTANT worry-free upgrades?

 

 

I don't know about any free agent tackles being much of an upgrade, but most certainly there's at least three guards that would make a very positive impact on this offensive line. 

[Special K]

How much will this board melt down if Antonio Johnson S Texas A&M is the first round pick?

 

If the Bills don’t re-sign Poyer, there is a good chance he will be the pick, IMO.

[MrEpsYtown]

31 minutes ago, Special K said:

How much will this board melt down if Antonio Johnson S Texas A&M is the first round pick?

 

If the Bills don’t re-sign Poyer, there is a good chance he will be the pick, IMO.

 

I could see it. I do think there will be a meltdown when it is a defensive player. However, I don't think they will be willing to rely on a rookie at that spot. I like Sydney Brown just because he seems like a really good projection into our system having played in that Lovie Smith-style Tampa 2. 

 

But I think the linebacker and safety holes are more likely to be filled with young vets. Perhaps another underappreciated slow corner (like Hyde and Poyer were) who can make the switch. I just don't think they will be willing to stick a rookie in that spot aside from maybe Brian Branch or Brown. I love Johnson, but I'm not sure if it is the perfect fit. But that is JMO.  

[NewEra]

15 hours ago, Yantha said:

The longer I look....  the weaker this O-line class looks.  Hoping we address the O-line heavilly in the free agency so that we don't have to rely on this draft.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a new right tackle and a new OG in free agency as INSTANT worry-free upgrades?

 

 

Beane really needs to pull 2 more rabbits out of the hat like he did with daryl Williams (albeit success for only for 1 season)

 

4 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

 

27: R1 P27 OT Paris Johnson Jr. - Ohio State

59: R2 P28 C John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota

91: R3 P28 WR A.T. Perry - Wake Forest

130: R4 P28 RB Tank Bigsby - Auburn

139: R5 P3 EDGE Dylan Horton - TCU

164: R5 P28 LB Ventrell Miller - Florida

I’ll be sad if AT Perry is the only WR we draft and if he’s our pick in rd 3.  I really about this guy getting any type of separation in the nfl

57 minutes ago, Special K said:

How much will this board melt down if Antonio Johnson S Texas A&M is the first round pick?

 

If the Bills don’t re-sign Poyer, there is a good chance he will be the pick, IMO.

Yeah I could see this.  He’s a helluva player and could be BPA.  I’d love the player while hating the pick 

[Special K]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah I could see this.  He’s a helluva player and could be BPA.  I’d love the player while hating the pick 

 

Beane likes to draft freak athletes, and I think Johnson certainly fits that mold.

 

Obviously, how things shake out in Free Agency will give us a much clearer idea of what positions the Bills will be focusing on in the Draft.

[HappyDays]

4 hours ago, Special K said:

How much will this board melt down if Antonio Johnson S Texas A&M is the first round pick?

 

If the Bills don’t re-sign Poyer, there is a good chance he will be the pick, IMO.

 

If Beane has any self-awareness at all he will do anything other than draft a safety in the 1st round. Trade down if that's the only 1st round grade they have left. He has yet to draft a non-premium position in the 1st round, depending on how you count Edmunds. I'll be shocked if he does this.

[Chaos]

Today's no trade mock. PFF did not like it, but it would make me happy. 

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by Chaos

[Yantha]

In this scenario, the Bills land TWO interior linemen Free Agents, plus some "insurance" at runningback for relatively cheap.  We get some pretty good competition to replace Poyer, while also looking at Hyde's future with the team in the NEAR future...  He's next at over 30...

- Gone:  Poyer, Edmunds and Singletary (Cook gets the start)

Edited March 3, 2023 by Yantha

[BritBill]

On 3/2/2023 at 1:33 AM, Chaos said:

Today's no trade mock. PFF did not like it, but it would make me happy. 

 

 

I'm not a fan of Wisconsin's logo. 

[RyanC883]

On 2/28/2023 at 10:04 PM, Yantha said:

The longer I look....  the weaker this O-line class looks.  Hoping we address the O-line heavilly in the free agency so that we don't have to rely on this draft.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a new right tackle and a new OG in free agency as INSTANT worry-free upgrades?

 

 

 

agree.  the OG and C look okay to me in the class, but the OTs are not deep, IMO.  

[Victory Formation]

On 3/1/2023 at 9:22 AM, Bigvinny said:

 

27: R1 P27 OT Paris Johnson Jr. - Ohio State

59: R2 P28 C John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota

91: R3 P28 WR A.T. Perry - Wake Forest

130: R4 P28 RB Tank Bigsby - Auburn

139: R5 P3 EDGE Dylan Horton - TCU

164: R5 P28 LB Ventrell Miller - Florida

There’s no way on God’s green earth that Paris Johnson will be available at 27, there’s no way. I am a firm believer in drafting the best WR available at 27 because I think there will be a few but Paris Johnson is a top 10 LT and a franchise LT at that.

[chongli]

On 1/27/2023 at 1:10 PM, RyanC883 said:

 

59.

Jarrett Patterson

OG Notre Dame

(best C in draft.  Can also play G.) 

 

 

The problem with Patteron is his severe lack of athletic ability. He is a backup at best and will be drafted Day 3, if at all. 33rd's NFL-style big board has him rated at 5.80:

 

5.70 – 5.89 - 7th Rounder - Bottom of Roster, Practice Squad

 

https://www.the33rdteam.com/nfl-draft/2023/players/jarrett-patterson-35554/

 

 

[John from Riverside]

On 2/28/2023 at 7:24 PM, CNYfan said:

Like Derrick Dockery  and Langston McKinney?  Forgive me as I disagree,  and see more value at talent in the draft.  

I think it was Langston Walker

[Richard Noggin]

Let the board dictate, with some VERY SLIGHT leanings towards need. There were some attractive defensive players available in the 2nd (edge, cb, and lb). Made me regret not trading down in the 1st. Kinda what the Bills need is a bevy of well-chosen Day Two talents. 

 

[LyndonvilleBill]

Here's a crazy thought. We are all challenged to find that #27 pick. Colts are desperate to get a QB since Luck retired.  They could use the 1st we give them to help trade up and get the QB of their choice. Would it be worth it to call them, offer them our 1st for Pittman? Last year of his rookie deal, they drafted Pierce last year. I think he would be a GREAT#2 and probably better than any wr we could get at 27, then next year we have a choice of keeping Davis or Pittman. More than likely to cost around the same to extend either one of them.🤔 Just thinking out loud.

[RyanC883]

On 3/5/2023 at 12:34 AM, chongli said:

 

The problem with Patteron is his severe lack of athletic ability. He is a backup at best and will be drafted Day 3, if at all. 33rd's NFL-style big board has him rated at 5.80:

 

5.70 – 5.89 - 7th Rounder - Bottom of Roster, Practice Squad

 

https://www.the33rdteam.com/nfl-draft/2023/players/jarrett-patterson-35554/

 

 

 

I don’t know. Not allowing any sacks playing at ND is impressive.  I think walter football has him as a top 5 G/C. 

[frostbitmic]

27. Steve Avila - G - TCU (Get the guy you want even if it's a reach)

59. Jack Campbell - LB - Iowa (I don't think they'll pay Edmunds, LB is important in the McD scheme)

91. Nathaniel Dell - WR - Houston (Best WR left)

130. Ja'Ayir Brown - S - Penn St (Best Safety left, all we have at the position is Hyde and that kid KC cut)

139. Tank Bigsby - RB - Auburn (A RB named Tank in the 5th round, yes please)

205. Aidan O'Connell - QB - Purdue (It's time to stop paying backup QB's 6M per year. Get a youngster in to learn and not cost a ton)

 

 

[quincy]

PFN

 

3xOL - 1xDT - 1xS - 1xWR

 

Need a reliable backup 1T - here Ika fell to 59.

 

Need to restock the offensive line.

[Special K]

27. O’Cyrus Torrence G Florida

 

59. Darnell Wright T Tennessee 

 

91. DeMarvion Overshown LB Texas

Edited March 8, 2023 by Special K

[34-78-83]

[Chaos]

1 hour ago, Special K said:

27. O’Cyrus Torrence G Florida

 

59. Darnell Wright T Tennessee 

 

91. DeMarvion Overshown LB Texas

Overshown had a weak combine. 

[LyndonvilleBill]

Even though some don't think Torrence is a fit for our system and I'm not big on taking a G in the 1st, I'm starting to think he may be one of our best options without someone falling or trading back.

 

 

[Special K]

2 hours ago, Chaos said:

Overshown had a weak combine. 

 

And we all know combine results are the be all and end all of how a player will perform on the field...

 

I am hopeful that the Bills can bring in a reasonably priced vet LB, so they don’t have to rely on a rookie in the middle of the D anyway.

[Victory Formation]

2 hours ago, Chaos said:

Overshown had a weak combine. 

In what sense? He ran a 4.56 and had 15 reps on the bench.

[Chaos]

8 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

15 reps on the bench

awful for an LB

[Victory Formation]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

awful for an LB

Tremaine Edmunds only got 19 up and he outweighed Overshown by 20-25lbs.

 

Also, I will say this, I am much, much, much more concerned with how much someone can squat versus how much they can bench. Furthermore, I am also more concerned by a player’s understanding of leverage and angles than I am by how much they bench. Shoot, even OHP (Overhead presses) are more important than how much someone can bench.

 

Overshown would be an excellent addition to Milano and Bernard, I would be legit excited by this unit if we were to draft him in RD3.

[Special K]

4 minutes ago, Chaos said:

awful for an LB

 

Just looked it up...Edmunds had 19 reps at his combine....not a big difference, IMO.

[Victory Formation]

Buffalo goes OL in FA + trade down:

• Isaac Seumalo, RG (3yrs $34M)

• Taylor Lewan, RT ($2yrs $13.5M)

 

33.

Jalin Hyatt

WR Tennessee

 

59.

Steve Avila

OG TCU

 

73.

Jack Campbell

LB Iowa

 

91.

DeMarvion Overshown

LB Texas

 

130.

Charlie Jones

WR Purdue

 

131.

DeMarcco Hellams

S Alabama

 

139.

Daniel Scott

S California

 

205.

Dontae Bull

OT Fresno State

[LyndonvilleBill]

26 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Buffalo goes OL in FA + trade down:

• Isaac Seumalo, RG (3yrs $34M)

• Taylor Lewan, RT ($2yrs $13.5M)

 

33.

Jalin Hyatt

WR Tennessee

 

59.

Steve Avila

OG TCU

 

73.

Jack Campbell

LB Iowa

 

91.

DeMarvion Overshown

LB Texas

 

130.

Charlie Jones

WR Purdue

 

131.

DeMarcco Hellams

S Alabama

 

139.

Daniel Scott

S California

 

205.

Dontae Bull

OT Fresno State

Lewan said he would NOT play RT.

[Victory Formation]

3 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Lewan said he would NOT play RT.

He’s old and often injured, these type of positional switches are common for players at this stage in their careers. Also, he would be playing for a legit contender, if he wants a ring, playing for Buffalo at RT is not a bad choice for him.

[starrymessenger]

22 hours ago, 34-78-83 said:

Mims is a very good player who has not been getting a lot of attention. That may change now with his 4:38 40. I was hoping to nab him in the third if we did not draft any of the more highly rated wide receivers in the first or second. He's probably as good or almost as any wideout in the draft imo. 

[LyndonvilleBill]

18 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

He’s old and often injured, these type of positional switches are common for players at this stage in their careers. Also, he would be playing for a legit contender, if he wants a ring, playing for Buffalo at RT is not a bad choice for him.

I don't disagree, I'm just repeating what he said himself. He said he would probably alow 50 sacks if he played on the right side and anyone thinking of him playing there should just move on.

[John from Riverside]

On 3/6/2023 at 3:39 PM, frostbitmic said:

27. Steve Avila - G - TCU (Get the guy you want even if it's a reach)

59. Jack Campbell - LB - Iowa (I don't think they'll pay Edmunds, LB is important in the McD scheme)

91. Nathaniel Dell - WR - Houston (Best WR left)

130. Ja'Ayir Brown - S - Penn St (Best Safety left, all we have at the position is Hyde and that kid KC cut)

139. Tank Bigsby - RB - Auburn (A RB named Tank in the 5th round, yes please)

205. Aidan O'Connell - QB - Purdue (It's time to stop paying backup QB's 6M per year. Get a youngster in to learn and not cost a ton)

 

 

A realistic draft covers all the needs

[Special K]

2 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

Mims is a very good player who has not been getting a lot of attention. That may change now with his 4:38 40. I was hoping to nab him in the third if we did not draft any of the more highly rated wide receivers in the first or second. He's probably as good or almost as any wideout in the draft imo. 

 

Love the idea of Mims in the second round, especially if the Bills nab a top-shelf O-line prospect in the first round.

[Bigvinny]

Fanspeak, Bills big board

 

TEAM PICKS

27: R1 P27 OT Paris Johnson Jr. - Ohio State

59: R2 P28 C John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota

91: R3 P28 WR Cedric Tillman - Tennessee

130: R4 P28 RB Israel Abanikanda - Pittsburgh

139: R5 P3 S Ronnie Hickman - Ohio State

205: R6 P28 G Henry Bainivalu - Washington

 

Missing linebacker but not bad.

Edited March 10, 2023 by Bigvinny

[Yantha]

Here's my LAST mock before the FA storm.  I'm banking on landing at least one new starter on the OL via FA. 

RT or LG (both would be better....). Vorhees is an addition for the future.  Love his grit.

I'm not sure if Wypler can play OG though, but he was the BPA, as was Ojomo. 

WR didn't fall right in this sim.  Could have had Dell in round 2 but I don't see him as a WR2.  More of a Shakir role, and we're good there.