Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Stop looking around for players and coaches to blame. The last 4 drafts haven’t given this team a single star. A couple decent role players like Oliver, Rousseau, Knox, Singletary and Dane and that’s about it. Brutal misses like AJ, Boogie, Moss and Ford. The most egregious being the OL and DL. So when Josh plays bad, this team is not good because Beane has done an awful job in 1-3 rounds the last 4 years. 6 2 1 1 18 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The two positions we’ve invested in the most the last few years is DL and RB and well…we may need to invest in DL some more. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I mentioned this another thread too, but Beane has done a solid job of stocking the team with “good” players. But very very very few “elite” players. We have no Bosa’s, or Watts, or Chris Jones etc. And he doesn’t seem to want to give up draft assets to acquire an elite asset like McAffrey. 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 This is something that needs attention. Our rookies cannot get a jersey on game day at positions of serious need. Cook was a non factor almost all season. Elam barely dressed. His never ending 1st and 2nd round DL are invisible. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 While other teams have plugged in a ton of rookies 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, DCOrange said: The two positions we’ve invested in the most the last few years is DL and RB and well…we may need to invest in DL some more. no. Please, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Will need to draft HoF caliber players. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: This is something that needs attention. Our rookies cannot get a jersey on game day at positions of serious need. Cook was a non factor almost all season. Elam barely dressed. His never ending 1st and 2nd round DL are invisible. This years might be the worst. Like you said, other than Shakir, we didn’t have a single rookie make a difference today and most of the year. Everyone wants to crown Cook but he’ll never be a 3 down back. He is the softest runner I’ve ever seen. And LOL at Bernard. That pick was bizarre. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) I don't see this changing without a regime change. Beane and McDermott have made it clear this is the type of team they want, and it clearly doesn't work. Take a chance on some low character guys, manage them correctly. Edited January 23, 2023 by Southern_Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, ngbills said: While other teams have plugged in a ton of rookies Our first rounder this year couldn’t even get on the field. 1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said: Will need to draft HoF caliber players. Not a lot of Super Bowls are won by teams who field just one super-generational talent. On this team we have Josh and….? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, RiotAct said: no. Please, no. I don’t want to but it remains probably our #2 or #3 biggest need. It’s just sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsabillsfanz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 We really haven’t done well in the draft the last few years. We have had to rely on free agents to plug too many holes. Drafting late in each round is obviously a factor, but our first & second round picks in the last few drafts are not performing up to their draft slots. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Call me crazy but I could see Pegula firing Beane and keeping McDermott. Sean was here before Brandon and Beane hasn’t been all that great with the picks he’s used on the defensive side of the ball. We went all in with the Von contract and that is gonna hurt us next year. Beane and Frazier out. Dorsey stays imo especially if we lose Joe Brady. McDermott is too close and has done too much for Terry to can him, for better or for worse. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Shanahan's Horseshoe said: Stop looking around for players and coaches to blame. The last 4 drafts haven’t given this team a single star. A couple decent role players like Oliver, Rousseau, Knox, Singletary and Dane and that’s about it. Brutal misses like AJ, Boogie, Moss and Ford. The most egregious being the OL and DL. So when Josh plays bad, this team is not good because Beane has done an awful job in 1-3 rounds the last 4 years. Reviewing a draft without context is foolhardy. Look at his drafts compared to the other teams and he has done a good job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, Shanahan's Horseshoe said: Stop looking around for players and coaches to blame. The last 4 drafts haven’t given this team a single star. A couple decent role players like Oliver, Rousseau, Knox, Singletary and Dane and that’s about it. Brutal misses like AJ, Boogie, Moss and Ford. The most egregious being the OL and DL. So when Josh plays bad, this team is not good because Beane has done an awful job in 1-3 rounds the last 4 years. Because every team hits on all draft picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 There won't be any changes. That 17 year playoff drought will be the forever trump card 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: Our first rounder this year couldn’t even get on the field. Not a lot of Super Bowls are won by teams who field just one super-generational talent. On this team we have Josh and….? My points. Look a the All Pro Team. Not many All Pros on Bills. We could use more. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nitro said: Reviewing a draft without context is foolhardy. Look at his drafts compared to the other teams and he has done a good job. Without context of what? 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Because every team hits on all draft picks? Never said that but expecting a single impact player isn’t a very lofty expectation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) That is not a misprint WGR did some research and found the last Bills player drafted to make a pro bowl is Wyatt Teller who as we all know isn’t here right now. Brandon Beane your draft picks got exposed today. Edited January 23, 2023 by 78thealltimegreat 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 HEY NOW COME ON TERREL BERNARD WAS A SERIOUS SPECIAL TEAMS CONTRIBUTOR 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I saw Bernard and was like he did pretty well for late round CB .. Lol... Totally forgot Bernard was in the team. Get him mixed up with Benford 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Nitro said: Reviewing a draft without context is foolhardy. Look at his drafts compared to the other teams and he has done a good job. compared to say the cheifs and bengals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 We are filled to the cap space brim. All that money spent on defense just to roll over when it matters. White is not White, hopefully he returns to form next year or we are in trouble. Elam and Benford aren’t going to win us a super bowl. Might as well go all out in the draft for offensive power weapons to out shoot teams while Miller and Hyde heal up and Groot continues to progress. We need a star WR opposite of Diggs, if Diggs goes down, we are in serious trouble. We need to Oline help. If it was my call, I would not draft a single defensive player in the upcoming draft even if we can’t re-sign Edmunds/Poyer. It should be more weapons and protection for Allen. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) The 2017 and 2018 draft were good, but the four years after that leave a lot to be desired. The mid to late rd picks from 2019-22 have found a few gems, but the picks in the top 2 rounds have been mediocre to bad. Edited January 23, 2023 by dgrochester55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: I don't see this changing without a regime change. Beane and McDermott have made it clear this is the type of team they want, and it clearly doesn't work. Take a chance on some low character guys, manage them correctly. If your system can be poisoned by 1-2 guys, how do you expect to win with such fragility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouds Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Beane's picks in the trenches have been abysmal. OL/DL just brutal. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chaos said: compared to say the cheifs and bengals? Id say we’ve drafted pretty similarly to the Chiefs, and we’ll see how they stack up against the Bengals in Arrowhead, but the big difference is they have a monster in the middle of their DL in Chris Jones. They also play their rookies. Who knows what Elam, Cook and Shakir could’ve given us if they were given regular reps all season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Best Williams Available said: If your system can be poisoned by 1-2 guys, how do you expect to win with such fragility? Honestly, this team has been weak and not many people wanted to admit it. We get pushed around when facing good teams. We need major Oline investments and another WR weapon for Allen. That is where I would dedicate all my resources this year. Let Miller and Hyde regroup and roll with the loss of either Edmunds/Poyer. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Shanahan's Horseshoe said: Stop looking around for players and coaches to blame. The last 4 drafts haven’t given this team a single star. A couple decent role players like Oliver, Rousseau, Knox, Singletary and Dane and that’s about it. Brutal misses like AJ, Boogie, Moss and Ford. The most egregious being the OL and DL. So when Josh plays bad, this team is not good because Beane has done an awful job in 1-3 rounds the last 4 years. It’s because he falls into the trap of drafting for need instead of value…he’s constantly reaching on prospects to fill a need… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bouds said: Beane's picks in the trenches have been abysmal. OL/DL just brutal. And it’s precisely why we won’t win a super bowl until we can control the games at will. We had no answer for Cinci’s attack. White is obviously not White. We have no money to spend this offseason, so our only chance is to outshoot opponents next year. We should be drafting 3 Olinemen and a good WR, if not Beane needs to be fired. Edited January 23, 2023 by IronMaidenBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Id say we’ve drafted pretty similarly to the Chiefs, and we’ll see how they stack up against the Bengals in Arrowhead, but the big difference is they have a monster in the middle of their DL in Chris Jones. They also play their rookies. Who knows what Elam, Cook and Shakir could’ve given us if they were given regular reps all season. Nick Bolton, Sneed, Karlaftis, Moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: Id say we’ve drafted pretty similarly to the Chiefs, and we’ll see how they stack up against the Bengals in Arrowhead, but the big difference is they have a monster in the middle of their DL in Chris Jones. They also play their rookies. Who knows what Elam, Cook and Shakir could’ve given us if they were given regular reps all season. Everyone plays their rookies except McD. Then Beane will sign a geezer off the street to take a rookies spot to “learn under”. Babying these players for 3 years to earn trust in them forces you to drag their assessment out, when all you had to do was put them in games and assess their development from the beginning. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, DCOrange said: The two positions we’ve invested in the most the last few years is DL and RB and well…we may need to invest in DL some more. We likely cannot pay Hines and/or Singletary. So buckle up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Honestly, this team has been weak and not many people wanted to admit it. We get pushed around when facing good teams. We need major Oline investments and another WR weapon for Allen. That is where I would dedicate all my resources this year. Let Miller and Hyde regroup and roll with the loss of either Edmunds/Poyer. 100% Id honestly let Edmunds and Poyer walk. If they have money they can free up for Edmunds, use it in FA on OL. All Day 1 and Day 2 picks should be WR & OL. Fill out the Defense for our new coordinator on Day 3. There will be weaknesses on the defense .. so be it, that’s the reality now. They don’t show up in the playoffs anyway. The key is getting 1-2 elite players on defense to anchor your cheap guys/rookie contracts around, like the Chiefs do with Chris Jones. 5 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Nick Bolton, Sneed, Karlaftis, Moore Yea .. seems pretty similar to the type of guys we’ve drafted. Edited January 23, 2023 by SCBills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Elam should have gotten more play this season. Full stop. That’s not on Beane. It all works together. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I actually think there is a good chance White hangs it up after the Hamlin incident. Plus his second concussion today. Love the dude and wish him well. But that’s what my guys telling me. So basically, look forward to another CB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: 100% Id honestly let Edmunds and Poyer walk. If they have money they can free up for Edmunds, use it in FA on OL. All Day 1 and Day 2 picks should be WR & OL. Fill out the Defense for our new coordinator on Day 3. There will be weaknesses on the defense .. so be it, that’s the reality now. They don’t show up in the playoffs anyway. The key is getting 1-2 elite players on defense to anchor your cheap guys/rookie contracts around, like the Chiefs do with Chris Jones. Yea .. seems pretty similar to the type of guys we’ve drafted. Yep. I have lost all faith in the defensive angle. A ton of draft capital and FAs to get absolutely rolled by top talent. It’s shoot out mode now and roll with a few defensive stops from time to time. Star WR and OL OL OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said: If your system can be poisoned by 1-2 guys, how do you expect to win with such fragility? I'm assuming you mean the 1-2 low character guys will wreck the entire locker room? If that's the case you had a weak culture anyways. They need to try something different, we either get embarrassed or are in the wrong end of the "game of the year" every year, not a good spit to be in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, schoolhouserock said: Elam should have gotten more play this season. Full stop. That’s not on Beane. It all works together. Pretty much. Our most talented CB doesn’t see the field for reasons nobody that studies tape can explain. Our most talented RB needs to be perfect or it’s back to the bench. Shakir … I mean, how on earth did this man not get more playing time this year. He’s clearly one of our top 3 WR’s on this team. The Bernard pick makes me want to vomit right now, but there’s a ton of promise moving forward with those 3 and whatever Benford can be. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.