CincyBillsFan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 5 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Sloppy, Hey I'll take it. Damn straight! Found this very interesting and it holds true. On "Speak for Yourself" Shady and Acho were discussing Josh's turnovers as of late and Shady brings up a great point at the 6:00 minute mark. Josh tends to play down to his competition and gets reckless at times. The bigger the game the better he performs. Pundits say if he plays like that against KC they'll lose. But as Shady mentions, he doesn't play like that against KC. In his last 3 games at KC Josh has 10 TDs and ZERO INTs. And if it wasn't for 13 seconds he'd be 3-0. He brings some head scratching bad decisions but the good outweighs that by a ton. Josh shows up when it counts. This video is why I jump to defend Allen. It's a perfect example of the cheery picking and outright lying by omission that these "analysts" use to paint Allen as out of control and reckless. Take that compilation of bad Allen plays that the one guy uses to show that Allen has been this way since day one. One of the game clips is from the 2020 season playoff game against the Colts. The replay showing Allen taking a sack and fumbling late in the game. But we recovered the ball. So let's see the REST OF THE STORY. In only his 2nd playoff game Allen was spectacular as the Bills won their first playoff game in 25 years. Allen's stats that day: 26 - 35 for 324 yards & 2 TD's; 11 rushes for 54 yards & 1 TD. Allen did not turn the ball over in that game. Showing a clip of Allen's one bad play to try to support your position while ignoring how well he played over the entire game is proof of that analyst's bias. This is why I don't believe much of anything these fools say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) On 1/17/2023 at 6:22 PM, peterpan said: I hate to say it but maybe 30%? We have been playing poorly for way too long. Bengals are a good team with a chip on their shoulder. I think it’s a safe bet that they win. And yet we won what 6- 7 straight !! And yet Bangles had to have a Miracle at the goal line against a backup QB !!! Edited January 19 by Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: This video is why I jump to defend Allen. It's a perfect example of the cheery picking and outright lying by omission that these "analysts" use to paint Allen as out of control and reckless. Take that compilation of bad Allen plays that the one guy uses to show that Allen has been this way since day one. One of the game clips is from the 2020 season playoff game against the Colts. The replay showing Allen taking a sack and fumbling late in the game. But we recovered the ball. So let's see the REST OF THE STORY. In only his 2nd playoff game Allen was spectacular as the Bills won their first playoff game in 25 years. Allen's stats that day: 26 - 35 for 324 yards & 2 TD's; 11 rushes for 54 yards & 1 TD. Allen did not turn the ball over in that game. Showing a clip of Allen's one bad play to try to support your position while ignoring how well he played over the entire game is proof of that analyst's bias. This is why I don't believe much of anything these fools say. It's got to be their narrative for now. Most of it comes from known hater Nick Wright. He is jealous people put Allen up there with Mahomes so he creates these narrotives. First it was Rollarcoaster Allen. Allen has a good QBR then bad.... and completely ignores Mahomes does the same. He also completely ignores all of Allen's rushing numbers. So all this year it was Allen was throwing picks nonstop.... all of a sudden Mahomes caught up to him in INTs so he changed it to fumbles (not even turnovers... just fumbles) and INTs. For reference: Allen has 19 turnovers this year, Burrow has 14, Mahomes has 12 (no fumbles). Last year Allen had 18, Burrow had 16, Mahomes had 17. So in two years: Allen has 37 TOs, Burrow has 30 and Mahomes had 29. That means that over the last two year Allen averages one more turnover per 4 games compared to Mahomes..... it's hardly the issue the media is making it sound like. Meanwhile sacks in the last two years: Mahomes: 54 Allen: 59 Burrow: 92 Which means that Burrow averages an extra sack per game compared to Allen (not completely his fault). I'll take the extra turnover every 4 games versus one sack a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 8 minutes ago, dma0034 said: It's got to be their narrative for now. Most of it comes from known hater Nick Wright. He is jealous people put Allen up there with Mahomes so he creates these narrotives. First it was Rollarcoaster Allen. Allen has a good QBR then bad.... and completely ignores Mahomes does the same. He also completely ignores all of Allen's rushing numbers. So all this year it was Allen was throwing picks nonstop.... all of a sudden Mahomes caught up to him in INTs so he changed it to fumbles (not even turnovers... just fumbles) and INTs. For reference: Allen has 19 turnovers this year, Burrow has 14, Mahomes has 12 (no fumbles). Last year Allen had 18, Burrow had 16, Mahomes had 17. So in two years: Allen has 37 TOs, Burrow has 30 and Mahomes had 29. That means that over the last two year Allen averages one more turnover per 4 games compared to Mahomes..... it's hardly the issue the media is making it sound like. Meanwhile sacks in the last two years: Mahomes: 54 Allen: 59 Burrow: 92 Which means that Burrow averages an extra sack per game compared to Allen (not completely his fault). I'll take the extra turnover every 4 games versus one sack a game. God if you can hear me please let Jacksonville win , I will never ever ask you again for anything for the rest of my life !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Buffalo will win this week: (1) we're at home, huge advantage (2) Cinci Oline is a mess (3) Cinco Dline is average, as are their LBs, their secondary is poor. (Eli Apple is their top CB - enough said. (4) If this isn't the year fate-wise, not sure when it ever will be? Feels like the year New Orleans won the Superbowl (5) Got a feeling a star will be born, thinking James Cook (6) We will win if we don't beat ourselves. Our o-line has been good except Brown has been atrocious. I give him help all game by chipping with a TE or RB Edited January 19 by Turbo44 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I no it’s going to be a tough game and any one of them could win. But if cin comes in down 3 oline men and Buffalo doesn’t get any pressure… that Will pretty much sum up the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 8 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: and what moved the chains for you hemma ? The pff stats along with their banged up OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 This is a toss up game. Both teams have a lot of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Cinci seemed to legitimately fear Ravens D. Cinci said publicly, on-field results. We need big boyz like Phillips and/or Frazier to mimic. Don’t rush passed Burro. If we can keep them to more FGs…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 If these 2 teams play 10 times it’s probably 4-4 with 2 ties. I don’t like the bills’ style (of football, I.e. philosophy on either side of the ball) but they win games. I will say that I think the bills can beat any team if they are healthy and eliminate mistakes. Hell, they beat a lot of teams while injured and making mistakes. the bills have problems that can only be fixed in the offseason so I’m just going to hope for the best. Hopefully josh makes enough plays and doesn’t make too many errors. I guess this is fandom with a gunslinger quarterback. Before last weekend I would’ve had the bills at 40% to beat the bengals, now I see it as 60%. the spread keeps getting bigger so there has to be something to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 To your question: I am very confident this game. Not sure why, but I feel good about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I like their chances, but if they lose it will be on a Josh Allen turn over in the red zone, or some ridiculously long conversion from the opponent or something similar to the 13 second fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 We have Josh Allen I expect to win every game... Never count that dude out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I'm actually feeling better and better about this game as the week goes on. From what I have been hearing, the bombs away offense was specifically for the Miami game. I don't expect them to do the same against the Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Week 2 was probably the last time we saw the Bills play at their peak, and it was amazing. That team would have smashed the Bengals. But I'm not sure we can get back to that level without Micah Hyde and Von Miller both playing. The team we've seen since the bye has been very inconsistent. - The offense either slumps for 2-3 quarters, or it puts up lots of yards/points and turns the ball over. - The defense seems to hold strong until they have a chance to put the game away, and then they let up big plays. - Even our special teams seems to be having costly mistakes at the wrong times. Can the Bills finally cutback on the mistakes? Turnovers. Easy drops. Mental errors. Can our defensive backs make some big plays, and keep this from becoming a total shoot-out? The Bills are the better team when they play clean. It's just hard to picture them putting it all together, when we haven't really seen it happen since halftime of the Packers game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I might actually bet this game. I have not felt this sure about a Bills cover in a long time. Bills - 48 Bengals - 10 GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Feels like a game that can go either way. Not really confident they’ll win but we’re obviously good enough to win without it being a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) The Bengals got blown out by the Cleveland browns and lost to Cooper Rush. They aren’t a juggernaut especially with 3 backup linemen. The Ravens D is one thing but the Ravens O with Tyler Huntley literally marched up and down the field on them. The Bengals rely heavily on you making mistakes. if the Bills don’t they win this game handily. if the Bills do well grab the pepto in the 4th quarter. Edited January 19 by 78thealltimegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 98% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I’m more Nostrodumbass than Nostradamus, but I was way more worried about the Dolphins than most were. If it counts for anything, I am way less worried about this Sunday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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