Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Yes they really effed Cincinatti over, but I disagree with your solutions. The solution was to follow their own by-laws and either seed by win % or add week 19. Really feel for the Bengals. They did for the Bills amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: Would it really both you if the Bills end up winning the Super Bowl and there is "hate" toward the Bills because of this? I wouldn't even think twice about it. Nobody will remember it in a couple of years, but a Championship is forever. Yes. Absolutely. I'll certainly remind Chiefs fans that they certainly shouldnt have had the bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Such a huge mistake. I hope we aren't advantaged by this as we are going to get a lot of hate if we win it all. No one will complain. Cincinnati is upset because they have the higher win % over Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Save for the coin flip, which is unfair to the Bengals, this is the best of a number of bad choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: We are already getting hate that we should just forfeit the game. Just imagine for a second that the Bengals have to travel to Baltimore wild card weekend and get knocked out while we beat the chiefs at a neutral field. Every troll on the internet is going to constantly remind us of it. I actually wish we would have forfeited it since the NFL apparently wont let us replay it. I think you’re imagining things.. One team benefits from this scenario about 20x more than everyone else … the Chiefs. Bills lose out on their ability to control their shot at the 1 seed. Bengals completely screwed due to whatever reasoning they have of flipping a coin to decide Bengals/Ravens home field if Balt wins. Edited January 6, 2023 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, What a Tuel said: Yes. Absolutely. I'll certainly remind Chiefs fans that they certainly shouldnt have had the bye. And if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl their fans literally won't care how it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Bills controlled their own destiny before the game week 17 now they don’t very frustrating when we also have a better CONF winning % and beat them H2H 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, SCBills said: I think you’re imagining things.. One team benefits from this scenario about 20x more than everyone else … the Chiefs. Bills screwed out of a chance to control their shot at the 1 seed. Bengals completely screwed due to whatever reasoning they have of flipping a coin to decide Bengals/Ravens home field if Balt wins. Yes, every team is getting hosed which again is the problem and will be the calling card for every other team that doesn't win the SB. The disadvantages for their team embellished while the advantages for the SB winning team embellished as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Such a huge mistake. I hope we aren't advantaged by this as we are going to get a lot of hate if we win it all. With all the love from every corner of America and the accommodations made for the Bills....They better WIN IT this season. This has to be the year. There's no choice but to win it. And Buffalo will get all neutral fans rooting for them. Even Cincinnati and KC fans would probably just say, fine take your darn Super Bowl trophy... and now disappear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, SCBills said: No, I’m strictly speaking about the Bengals/Ravens scenario. Why a coin flip when the Ravens can’t overtake them on win percentage? Sure Ravens would have swept them. Bills beat Chiefs. Doesn’t mean we get a coin flip over the bye. That is a valid point. That point alone should settle it and keep in consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: And if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl their fans literally won't care how it happened. Would you be ok with the NFL just giving us the win over Cinci bc everyone felt bad for Hamlin? I know I wouldn't. Yes, how you win absolutely matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Yes they really effed Cincinatti over, but I disagree with your solutions. The solution was to follow their own by-laws and either seed by win % or add week 19. Week 19 was out of the question. If you seed by win percentage only then KC gets the bye and home field and Cinci is stuck in 3 and Baltimore loses any reason to even suit up for week 18. That's the least favorable option imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: We are already getting hate that we should just forfeit the game. Just imagine for a second that the Bengals have to travel to Baltimore wild card weekend and get knocked out while we beat the chiefs at a neutral field. Every troll on the internet is going to constantly remind us of it. I actually wish we would have forfeited it since the NFL apparently wont let us replay it. So be it. The Patriots have 2-3 asterisks and we did nothing wrong, the Pats ** did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Here’s the solution: offer that Bills Cincy in the divisional round is on a neutral field, even if Bills and ravens lose week 18. Bills lose a lot relative to the current proposal but then would have the option to rest against the Pats. This does not solve the problem of KC getting gifted the bye but it lessens the pummeling Cincy is taking under the current proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, zow2 said: With all the love from every corner of America and the accommodations made for the Bills....They better WIN IT this season. This has to be the year. There's no choice but to win it. And Buffalo will get all neutral fans rooting for them. Even Cincinnati and KC fans would probably just say, fine take your darn Super Bowl trophy... and now disappear. “Accomodations” Chiefs get one seed = bye and avoiding both BUF & CIN. Buffalo gets a shot at a neutral AFCCG and avoiding falling to the 3 seed, albeit losing their ability to keep the one seed they had control of. No accommodations were made. Decisions were made. In order of who those decisions benefit/hurt: Chiefs Bills Ravens Bengals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Really feel for the Bengals. They did for the Bills amazing. Agreed. They should have the #3 seed as they deserve it based on merit AND then throw in the ultimate sportsmanship and unselfishness they have shown. It is not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Yes they really effed Cincinatti over, but I disagree with your solutions. The solution was to follow their own by-laws and either seed by win % or add week 19. Week 19 never made sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: We are already getting hate that we should just forfeit the game. Just imagine for a second that the Bengals have to travel to Baltimore wild card weekend and get knocked out while we beat the chiefs at a neutral field. Every troll on the internet is going to constantly remind us of it. I actually wish we would have forfeited it since the NFL apparently wont let us replay it. Well that would be the Bengals issue to deal with; they'll only have to travel to the Ravens if they lose on Sunday. Beat them, and they get HFA over them. Burrow said on Wednesday some Bengals players didn't feel, at that point, like they wanted to play on Sunday. Higgins agreed that he was relieved the game was called off. So they can try and claim it was all on the Bills but it wasn't, and understandably so. So should we forfeit? Edited January 6, 2023 by UKBillFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Im fine with whatever. There is no perfect solution. This one seems reasonable. Honestly, I think the Bengals are getting the shortest end of the stick here and I feel bad for their fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 If KC wins Saturday and Bills have no shot at #1-then rest players for NE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Week 19 never made sense. Not from a logistical standpoint for 1 game no, but it is an unprecedented situation. Those are the rules though. Going to get all kinds of people riled up if you add rules on the fly as there will always be a subjective component that your team is being slighted. At least when utilizing existing rules you can fall back on "well thats the rules". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I was thinking, I wonder if neutral site playoffs in the future makes any sense? Maybe just the Championship games are played in neutral sites. I think that would be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Yeah I don’t know why the league felt the need to create a bargain for the ravens in the new proposal. Ravens have lost bad games down the stretch and they couldn’t sign their qb to a long term deal, now they are paying the price. I can’t envision they would complain too hard if the league just handed the division with the full 3 seed home field to the bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, die hard bills fan said: If KC wins Saturday and Bills have no shot at #1-then rest players for NE. Bills would still be play for a lot. Home field throughout or home field and a neutral site game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 So wait...if the Chiefs lose and the Bills win would that mean they avoid the neutral field scenario? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Why is ChiefsPlanet such a consistent collection of scum? What's the latest on methhead XFactor and the bank robber? I don't post there. I do agree it's a cesspool. Arrowhead Stadium crows >>>>>>> Chiefs Planet crowd. 3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Yes. Absolutely. I'll certainly remind Chiefs fans that they certainly shouldnt have had the bye. In a prior post, I acknowledge, this isn't a bad deal for the Chiefs as it turned out. The only thing I would say is that the whole problem with the no contest is that you can not definiteively say KC didn't deserve the bye. We can't say they did because the Bills and Bengals game didn't happen. 2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: And if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl their fans literally won't care how it happened. This is correct. IF KC does somehow go on to win the SB....the talking heads will drone on about it for a week or so and that's it. KC gets to keep the trophy, the record books show KC won the title. in a few years now one will remember or care at all. Sad but true. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, die hard bills fan said: If KC wins Saturday and Bills have no shot at #1-then rest players for NE. 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bills would still be play for a lot. Home field throughout or home field and a neutral site game. In addition to what Buffalo_Stampede said....I just can't imagine any Bills players WANTING to sit for this Patriots game. I would bet anything that they want to go out there and run through a brick wall in honor of Damar. Now if the Bills have a big lead in the second half? Then sure, rest starters. But until victory is certain, I expect the team to go all out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) this ***** sucks. I'm pissed as a Bills fan and as an NFL fan. Edited January 6, 2023 by Nineforty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nineforty said: this ***** sucks. I'm pissed as a Bills fan and as an NFL fan. Why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Here’s the solution: offer that Bills Cincy in the divisional round is on a neutral field, even if Bills and ravens lose week 18. Bills lose a lot relative to the current proposal but then would have the option to rest against the Pats. This does not solve the problem of KC getting gifted the bye but it lessens the pummeling Cincy is taking under the current proposal. Is that not happening? I would think the Bills/Cincy game should definitely be on a neutral field. Doesn't seem fair otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Zerovoltz said: In a prior post, I acknowledge, this isn't a bad deal for the Chiefs as it turned out. The only thing I would say is that the whole problem with the no contest is that you can not definiteively say KC didn't deserve the bye. We can't say they did because the Bills and Bengals game didn't happen. Agree, but the Bills didn't get their chance to prove they will have a 14-3 record too and the tie breaker win over the chiefs but nevertheless the Chiefs get the 1st seed benefit of a bye week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 For the next 36 hours, we're all Raider's fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Johnnycage46 said: Why? I thought they had to do everything they could do to get the Bills v Bengalds game in. There were solutions to this. Did they have unpleasant consequences? Yes. I would have even been okay with coin toss between Bills-Bengals to determine a winner and loser. I do not buy that the Bills would not want to play the Bengals if it could determine the #1 seed. Maybe some. but a majority? If they did feel this way, I imagine that will come out, and I'll eat my words at that time if that is the case, I just can't imagine it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 This proposed scenario does seem fair to me. Assuming we are 13-3 and KC are 14-3, there are different views. Yes, we beat KC. So it may seem unfair that they don't play WC Weekend. And we do. Both with the same number of losses. But...we didn't finish the Cincinnati game. A game we very well could have lost. Which would've left us at 4 losses and KC at 3 losses. Meaning an AFC title game would be in Arrowhead. Instead, said game would be at a neutral field. Which KC fans would hate. Buffalo fans would like. Both us and KC get some good and bad out of this proposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Nineforty said: I thought they had to do everything they could do to get the Bills v Bengalds game in. There were solutions to this. Did they have unpleasant consequences? Yes. I would have even been okay with coin toss between Bills-Bengals to determine a winner and loser. I do not buy that the Bills would not want to play the Bengals if it could determine the #1 seed. Maybe some. but a majority? If they did feel this way, I imagine that will come out, and I'll eat my words at that time if that is the case, I just can't imagine it is. Well, if the Chiefs somehow lose on Saturday and the Bills win on Sunday, the #1 seed goes to Buffalo, and if I'm reading the resolution correctly, the Bills get the bye and home-field (i.e. no neutral site factoring in). If the Chiefs win and the Bills win, the Bills get the 2, get 2 playoff games at home (assuming they can win both) and then avoid a trip to KC (again, assuming KC also gets that far). I think that is about the best we can hope for as of Monday night with all that has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Actually surprised by how fair the outcome of this is for a league that constantly puts it's self first and in the lime light Only thing that sucks is the Bengals coin flip scenario but then again if you get swept by a division opponent then maybe it is deserved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: Well, if the Chiefs somehow lose on Saturday and the Bills win on Sunday, the #1 seed goes to Buffalo, and if I'm reading the resolution correctly, the Bills get the bye and home-field (i.e. no neutral site factoring in). If the Chiefs win and the Bills win, the Bills get the 2, get 2 playoff games at home (assuming they can win both) and then avoid a trip to KC (again, assuming KC also gets that far). I think that is about the best we can hope for as of Monday night with all that has happened. I assume if the Chiefs win and the Bills lose, and both teams get to the AFCCG, then it will be held at Arrowhead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Well, if the Chiefs somehow lose on Saturday and the Bills win on Sunday, the #1 seed goes to Buffalo, and if I'm reading the resolution correctly, the Bills get the bye and home-field (i.e. no neutral site factoring in). If the Chiefs win and the Bills win, the Bills get the 2, get 2 playoff games at home (assuming they can win both) and then avoid a trip to KC (again, assuming KC also gets that far). I think that is about the best we can hope for as of Monday night with all that has happened. I agree up to the last sentence. Just now, Cheektowaga Chad said: Actually surprised by how fair the outcome of this is for a league that constantly puts it's self first and in the lime light Only thing that sucks is the Bengals coin flip scenario but then again if you get swept by a division opponent then maybe it is deserved It's only fair if you accept that the Bengals v Bills could not be played. I do not accept this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: I assume if the Chiefs win and the Bills lose, and both teams get to the AFCCG, then it will be held at Arrowhead? I believe so. Based on the resolution the neutral site seemed to only come into play if both KC/Buff win or both lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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