NFL Network Analyst Willie McGinest arrested for Assault with a Deadly Weapon in LA

[Matt_In_NH]

20 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Blows my mind that waiting for factual information is such a ground breaking take.

 

I mean do you people go through life making snap judgements with no facts? 

no one said it’s ground breaking.  People make judgements based on what they see.  Not sure why you find that surprising.  Did you say the same thing with the Ray Rice video when he spit in his wife’s face and knocked her out.  She probably deserved it right?  
 

 “you people” ?   What a clown

[ArtVandalay]

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Can you point the child rapers in that video?

 

 

So now you are reduced to (clinging to, really), the absurdity that McGinest was wandering around Vegas lounges looking for the bad guy and administering street/"moral" justice to them on behalf of the raped and abused?  

 

And that to challenge your (ahem) logic.... is tantamount to asserting  that women and children "are never raped or abused in this day and age"?

 

keep this gold river flowing, man---this is good stuff!

 

 

You are having a really hard time with this, I think you need to slow down, go back and re-read, because you are completely misunderstanding what was said, or you are just purposely being obtuse. Not sure which it is.

 

At no point did i claim the man did those things or that McGinnest is a batman type hero roaming the streets.

 

It's really incredible the level you can twist and turn things and competely make up an entire fascination. It's impressive. 

 

Good luck with that, not going down this road of absurdities.

 

I'll reiterate my earth shattering two cents: Wait for the facts of the story before passing judgment -- i.e., demanding he be fired from his job and thrown in a cell. 🤯

[ArtVandalay]

15 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

no one said it’s ground breaking.  People make judgements based on what they see.  Not sure why you find that surprising.  Did you say the same thing with the Ray Rice video when he spit in his wife’s face and knocked her out.  She probably deserved it right?  
 

 “you people” ?   What a clown

You're comparing this to Ray Rice? Good lord your moral compass needs calibrating. 

 

To be honest rush to judgements and pitch fork mentality while completely lacking caring for any facts whatsoever says more about you people than it does Mr Willie. 

 

I'm not even saying the guy is right just merely saying we should understand what the facts are behind this short clip.

[Breakout Squad]

Has the ‘Truth’ come out yet? 🥱

[TonyBeets]

On 12/19/2022 at 3:35 PM, Zag20 said:

Who does this at age 51?

Probably someone with CTE

[SydneyBillsFan]

On 12/20/2022 at 11:13 AM, Toledo Bill said:

The quality of some of the NFL Network hires is disgusting.

 

That's because they stole Gruden's playbook from ESPN.

[RocCityRoller]

3 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

To be honest rush to judgements and pitch fork mentality while completely lacking caring for any facts whatsoever says more about you people than it does Mr Willie. 

 

I'm not even saying the guy is right just merely saying we should understand what the facts are behind this short clip.

 

And you want to be my latex salesman....

 

[Mr. WEO]

10 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

You are having a really hard time with this, I think you need to slow down, go back and re-read, because you are completely misunderstanding what was said, or you are just purposely being obtuse. Not sure which it is.

 

At no point did i claim the man did those things or that McGinnest is a batman type hero roaming the streets.

 

It's really incredible the level you can twist and turn things and competely make up an entire fascination. It's impressive. 

 

Good luck with that, not going down this road of absurdities.

 

I'll reiterate my earth shattering two cents: Wait for the facts of the story before passing judgment -- i.e., demanding he be fired from his job and thrown in a cell. 🤯

 

 

The completely made up "fascinations" (I never said he should be fired from his job or thrown in a cell) and "absurdities" (that woman and children are raped an abused has anything at all to do with this video) are all yours--you have documented them very well.

 

Look, it's simple: there is no justification for what goes on in this video.  It's "absurd" to somehow link this to rape and abuse.  He committed a crime on video.  

 

It's always fun when a poster says something incredibly dumb and then claims others are "obtuse" when their post gets blown up.

[Southern_Bills]

11 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

You're comparing this to Ray Rice? Good lord your moral compass needs calibrating. 

 

To be honest rush to judgements and pitch fork mentality while completely lacking caring for any facts whatsoever says more about you people than it does Mr Willie. 

 

I'm not even saying the guy is right just merely saying we should understand what the facts are behind this short clip.

 

Honestly speaking, I think he should expect questions after this video. I would listen to his side, but he's starting in the hole after this video. 

[peterpan]

People need to start carrying guns again.  

[Big Turk]

17 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Can you point the child rapers in that video?

 

 

So now you are reduced to (clinging to, really), the absurdity that McGinest was wandering around Vegas lounges looking for the bad guy and administering street/"moral" justice to them on behalf of the raped and abused?  

 

And that to challenge your (ahem) logic.... is tantamount to asserting  that women and children "are never raped or abused in this day and age"?

 

keep this gold river flowing, man---this is good stuff!

 

 

 

The absurdity of what he is suggesting is crazy...

17 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

You're comparing this to Ray Rice? Good lord your moral compass needs calibrating. 

 

To be honest rush to judgements and pitch fork mentality while completely lacking caring for any facts whatsoever says more about you people than it does Mr Willie. 

 

I'm not even saying the guy is right just merely saying we should understand what the facts are behind this short clip.

 

I'm still trying to know what "facts" would matter in a case of 6 guys jumping someone minding his own business and the person in question repeatedly hitting him in the face with a heavy glass bottle?

 

I'm interested in knowing what you think would justify this behavior that was seen on camera where there clearly is no imminent threat from this person to the safety of the party involved with the beatdown.

 

Does California have some clause in the assault laws that state "if you find a man you know has been sleeping with your girl, you may smash him in the face with a glass bottle not more than 8 times and with a bottle not heavier than 1 pound 8 ounces when empty."?

Edited December 22, 2022 by Big Turk

[Southern_Bills]

17 minutes ago, peterpan said:

People need to start carrying guns again.  

 

When did we stop carrying guns? I missed the memo.

[Zag20]

15 hours ago, TonyBeets said:

Probably someone with CTE

Maybe, but it seems like suicide and very irrational unexplained behavior, like the Philip Adams case are more typical for CTE

[Freak-O]

18 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

You're comparing this to Ray Rice? Good lord your moral compass needs calibrating. 

 

To be honest rush to judgements and pitch fork mentality while completely lacking caring for any facts whatsoever says more about you people than it does Mr Willie. 

 

I'm not even saying the guy is right just merely saying we should understand what the facts are behind this short clip.

Well, did you have all the facts when the Ray Rice video came out? Or did you jump to conclusions? Or was it different because he hit a woman? But on the other hand, then it was one on one and this time there was a mob against a single guy. Either way, defending a group beating is just stupid. That kind of thing belongs in the Middle Ages or, sadly, the Middle East. 

[TBBills Fan]

This happened dec 9th and McGinests birthday was the 11th.

 

Starting to wonder if this just coincides with birthday weekend partying, which could mean this may be over something really stupid like a booth or stepping on someone's shoe kinda deal. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

The absurdity of what he is suggesting is crazy...

 

I'm still trying to know what "facts" would matter in a case of 6 guys jumping someone minding his own business and the person in question repeatedly hitting him in the face with a heavy glass bottle?

 

Back in the day it might have been when someone jumped quarters on the Foosball table at Cassidy’s.    Or, pretty much any other place in WNY with a foosball table. 
 

 

[Mr. WEO]

Maybe OJ sent Willie into that lounge to find "the real killer"?

 

I mean, that would suffice as a stimulus for a righteous beat-down.  Can anyone weigh in on this?

[EasternOHBillsFan]

22 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

You're comparing this to Ray Rice? Good lord your moral compass needs calibrating. 

 

To be honest rush to judgements and pitch fork mentality while completely lacking caring for any facts whatsoever says more about you people than it does Mr Willie. 

 

I'm not even saying the guy is right just merely saying we should understand what the facts are behind this short clip.

 

So if a person is suddenly attacked on the street, we shouldn't help because we need to know all the facts to make a snap judgment and intervene?

 

What a world you live in.

[wnyguy]

13 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

So if a person is suddenly attacked on the street, we shouldn't help because we need to know all the facts to make a snap judgment and intervene?

 

What a world you live in.

I hear he's an architect, so you know.

[GreggTX]

On 12/19/2022 at 7:06 AM, Solomon Grundy said:

2nd only to Takeo Spikes, Willie McGinest is the last dude I'd mess with

I was thinking of Ted Washington, but ok. Spikes is a good choice. Anyone but Booth Lustig really.

 

[EasternOHBillsFan]

1 hour ago, wnyguy said:

I hear he's an architect, so you know.

 

An associate of H. E. Pennypacker, I assume. 😁

[Neo]

On 12/19/2022 at 6:26 PM, WideNine said:

This on top of that epic embarrassment of a game against the Raiders... Pat fans will be jumping off bridges.


Can't get enough of Chandler Jones just shoving Mac to the turf by his face as he runs over him for the game-clinching TD.

 

 

 

Josh Allen makes that tackle.   Jim Kelly drops him.

[Nextmanup]

The headline should read "FORMER NFL Network Analyst Willie McGinnest..."

 

If that's not true now, it will be soon.

 

 

[chongli]

21 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

When did we stop carrying guns? I missed the memo.

 

Well, in most areas of California, concealed carry permits are very hard to get, unless you are law enforcement or donate heavily to the county sherrif.

Edited December 23, 2022 by chongli

[Southern_Bills]

55 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Well, in most areas of California, concealed carry permits are very hard to get, unless you are law enforcement or donate heavily to the county sherrif.

 

Yeah, I'm in south Alabama, we can still get a CCWP without much issue. Actually they plan on doing away with the permit altogether, meaning any lawful gun owner can conceal carry, which I don't particularly agree with.

 

 

[ArtVandalay]

On 12/22/2022 at 8:17 PM, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

So if a person is suddenly attacked on the street, we shouldn't help because we need to know all the facts to make a snap judgment and intervene?

 

What a world you live in.

Strawman. What are you even talking about? Like ridiculous lol. Breaking up a fight is not the same as campaigning for someone to lose their job and be thrown in jail lol.

 

When you have nothing to say just make up an entirely new argument. 

 

It's astonishing that asking for facts is so controversial. 

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Strawman. What are you even talking about? Like ridiculous lol. Breaking up a fight is not the same as campaigning for someone to lose their job and be thrown in jail lol.

 

When you have nothing to say just make up an entirely new argument. 

 

It's astonishing that asking for facts is so controversial. 

 

I'm still waiting for a response from the question I asked you upthread regarding this and have only gotten crickets.

[ArtVandalay]

On 12/22/2022 at 4:52 PM, Freak-O said:

Well, did you have all the facts when the Ray Rice video came out? Or did you jump to conclusions? Or was it different because he hit a woman? But on the other hand, then it was one on one and this time there was a mob against a single guy. Either way, defending a group beating is just stupid. That kind of thing belongs in the Middle Ages or, sadly, the Middle East. 

Yes beating your WIFE unconscious then dragging her body is entirely different. 

 

That shouldn't be up for discussion. 

[ArtVandalay]

On 12/22/2022 at 2:46 PM, Big Turk said:

 

The absurdity of what he is suggesting is crazy...

 

I'm still trying to know what "facts" would matter in a case of 6 guys jumping someone minding his own business and the person in question repeatedly hitting him in the face with a heavy glass bottle?

 

I'm interested in knowing what you think would justify this behavior that was seen on camera where there clearly is no imminent threat from this person to the safety of the party involved with the beatdown.

 

Does California have some clause in the assault laws that state "if you find a man you know has been sleeping with your girl, you may smash him in the face with a glass bottle not more than 8 times and with a bottle not heavier than 1 pound 8 ounces when empty."?

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

[KDIGGZ]

1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said:

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

Doesn't matter what he did, you don't get 5 guys to hold 1 guy while you smash them in the face over and over with a glass bottle. I can't believe you actually posted that online. Bad take 

[Big Turk]

4 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

 

Dude...none of that matters under the law. If any of the stuff happens then you call the police. If they have no evidence and he walks, then you don't get to use vigilante justice as a backup. All of those are just idiotic arguments that have no basis under the law.

 

Comical how some people think any of that matters in terms of how the law actually works.

Edited December 24, 2022 by Big Turk

[Victory Formation]

[CDogg20]

On 12/19/2022 at 6:06 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

2nd only to Takeo Spikes, Willie McGinest is the last dude I'd mess with

Random story time…

 

One time Takeo called my father and chewed him out for not cutting his grass on time. It was the only time i’d ever seen my father with tears in his eyes from another man.

 

 

Come to find out he had two Kellys saved in his phone and called the wrong one 🤣 

 

Takeo is such a cool dude…just don’t mess with him

[Dopey]

What a *****!

Edit: vergina 

Edited December 24, 2022 by Dopey

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

 

this just gets better and better!  Holy cow!  "a million things"!!  yes. YES!!

 

Anyway, you are allowing for the possibility that "something" will come out where you, personally, in this thread will argue that Willie should be able to keep his job?

 

You will come here and say: "despite his obvious commission of a crime on video, the circumstances under which he committed it should allow for him to keep his job"?

 

And, since you have already conceded that none of the "million things" you listed would be an adequate legal  defense, you believe he should keep his job while on trial?  After conviction?  Has to be a "yes", right?  Your posts have painted you  into that corner.

 

Let's hear it

[ArtVandalay]

16 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Dude...none of that matters under the law. If any of the stuff happens then you call the police. If they have no evidence and he walks, then you don't get to use vigilante justice as a backup. All of those are just idiotic arguments that have no basis under the law.

 

Comical how some people think any of that matters in terms of how the law actually works.

We aren't just taking about court of law, we are talking everyone immediately calling him a thug and pitch forks saying he should be canceled and fired from his job. None of that has to do with court of law.

 

And actuality yes, those items i mentioned although he will be in some sort of legal trouble will directly impact severity and if jail is every a possibility. He could just get a fine, and probation. The other guy might also be in legal trouble depending what happened.

 

But go ahead keep going through life making snap judgements with no facts based purely off your bias and sliver of knowledge without any understanding of facts. Im sure that will work out well for you. Pitch fork mentality has been so great for society 😆

 

Anyway we can agree to disagree... i like having facts before judging people, your don't, that's cool. 

 

Merry Christmas! If you see someone coming down your chimney he's not a burgler breaking in,  just santa so don't rush to judgement on him. 

[TwistofFate]

What an idiot. An unprovoked attack, then to jump him with multiple other people on top of hitting him with a bottle.  

 

This is the type of ***** that gets people shot, every one of them. 

[chongli]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmhJB8XPEug/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

Edited December 25, 2022 by chongli

[JimmyNoodles]

On 12/24/2022 at 2:41 PM, ArtVandalay said:

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

Art, you’ll never be my latex salesman. 

[Bubba Gump]

4 hours ago, chongli said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmhJB8XPEug/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

 

Pretty funny how all the Instagram comments they show are from his friends with blue check marks. Let's see the hidden ones. F'n joke.