YoloinOhio Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) If he does get one, the Bills get an extra 3rd round pick. Edit: 2 3rd round picks! Edited December 8, 2022 by Special K 15 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I think we've seen these reports before and they never materialized. I expect the same this year. 5 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Since the Bills like to hire from within, which defensive assistant is in line to get the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I still have a strong distaste for Frazier due to the 13 seconds. I wouldn’t mind seeing him gone. Especially if the Bills pick up a pick in the process. I always feel like Frazier’s defenses are a paper Tiger. Ranked high but fold when it really matters. 15 2 8 6 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Strong consideration - and he'll probably still be back because there aren't that many teams looking to run 20 year old defensive strategies that depend on having 8+ starting caliber defensive lineman. We're not that lucky. 7 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) It's Groundhog Day! Edited December 8, 2022 by Inigo Montoya 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ski Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Hope we can get swartz back. 3 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well if it doesn't happen for either , how about a trade straight up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I think he deserves one but I dont think he will get a HC gig. His age is up there and most teams are looking for an offensive mind, not always but usually. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Not a chance, the Bills are stuck with him. 1 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Since the Bills like to hire from within, which defensive assistant is in line to get the job? I would guess that it is Eric Washington but I’d give a good look at the secondary coach 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Any HC gig must include a clause about stepping down for the last thirteen seconds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Strong consideration - and he'll probably still be back because there aren't that many teams looking to run 20 year old defensive strategies that depend on having 8+ starting caliber defensive lineman. We're not that lucky. Yep and it doesn’t work which is why we are bottom of the league every year in defensive scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Sure. Ok Josina. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I think he deserves one but I dont think he will get a HC gig. His age is up there and most teams are looking for an offensive mind, not always but usually. Ask Denver how that offensive mind is working out...lol 21 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: I still have a strong distaste for Frazier due to the 13 seconds. I wouldn’t mind seeing him gone. Especially if the Bills pick up a pick in the process. I always feel like Frazier’s defenses are a paper Tiger. Ranked high but fold when it really matters. McD called timeout before both plays and is equally complicit in the 13 second debacle 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I will believe it when I see it. He will be used, unfortunately, to satisfy the rooney rule. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Receiving "strong consideration" and an interview opportunity are two different things. Frazier will likely fall into the latter category, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Ask Denver how that offensive mind is working out...lol McD called timeout before both plays and is equally complicit in the 13 second debacle It doesn't matter anymore, Heath jumped on the grenade. Hope he at least got some free wings or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 also, the venom in this thread, and in this fanbase in general, for a coordinator whose unit has finished top 10 or better in every season he's been here is WILD 10 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Ask Denver how that offensive mind is working out...lol Why don’t we ask Miami? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Ask Denver how that offensive mind is working out...lol I'm not saying its the right mindset. Personally I think it doesnt matter if the head coach is offensive or defensive. As long as they are a good coach, surrounded by other good coaches, I think either can succeed. It just seems that most teams want an offensive minded coach since McVay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I think he'll get interviews. I dont think he will get a job. I fully expect Dorsey to get a long look from Carolina as well. Has ties to the organization, played college football and was in Buffalo with Dan Morgan. A lot of connections in Carolina to Dorsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 All this gets is an eye roll emoji from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 To play devil's advocate, Frazier is an old breed. But if the Texans hired Lovie Smith then anything is possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Why don’t we ask Miami? Exaclty. Gase was a disaster but McDaniel seems competent. Its the guy not the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Been hearing this for many years now. Never has happened. Likely won't this year either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 thank godd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Exaclty. Gase was a disaster but McDaniel seems competent. Its the guy not the background. I agree with this but the league is absolutely trending on the offensive side of the ball for HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 7 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I'm not saying its the right mindset. Personally I think it doesnt matter if the head coach is offensive or defensive. As long as they are a good coach, surrounded by other good coaches, I think either can succeed. It just seems that most teams want an offensive minded coach since McVay. I agree but not all do. Jets went defense, Texans went defense, and so did the Bears. I think the more consistent theme is youth over experience as many of the recent hires have been on the younger side. Seems like teams want that guy that is willing to spend 100 hours a week at the job 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) Do the Patriots get a pick for this being posted again as a topic(every year thing it seems)? Or do they just get another pick regardless? Asking for a friend. Edited December 8, 2022 by WyoAZBillfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: also, the venom in this thread, and in this fanbase in general, for a coordinator whose unit has finished top 10 or better in every season he's been here is WILD We all care very deeply about something over which we have zero control. Also, while we all know that we couldn’t play at an NFL level, game day coaching is something that a lot fans think that they could do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) Will he get an interview that lasts 13 seconds?? Im probably going to get every possible reaction from this comment Edited December 8, 2022 by Bills!Win! 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yep and it doesn’t work which is why we are bottom of the league every year in defensive scoring. Yup - and it's also why the team is golfing in late January instead of getting ready for a super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 If he wins the super bowl losing Miller and Hyde he’s certainly a head coach somewhere. If he goes out in embarrassing fashion like the last two years he stays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) I doubt any franchise is going to go for a defensive coordinator who is 64 when next season starts. EDIT: It's ageist, yes, but the NFL is a young man's game. Defensive coordinators as HC's are fewer because it's an offensive game. Almost 2/3rds of HC's who began the season were not from the defensive side. It's also a consideration that this is McD's scheme that Frazier manages for him. Whether that's fair or factors into hiring him. And, to @BullBuchanan's point, he'll be evaluated on whether that prospective team will invest in defense as much as the Bills have. And when you're at or near the top in many categories it's hard to quantify how much better he made that unit. Teams will consider that as well. Perhaps Houston will hire him after they inevitably fire Lovie Smith and before that David Culley. Edited December 8, 2022 by BillsVet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: We all care very deeply about something over which we have zero control. Also, while we all know that we couldn’t play at an NFL level, game day coaching is something that a lot fans think that they could do. right but...his results are great lol, so we should praise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Yup - and it's also why the team is golfing in late January instead of getting ready for a super bowl. Exactly. What are we giving up this year? I'm assuming close to 30 ppg. Have we ever even cracked the top 20 in defensive scoring under Frazier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 33 minutes ago, Airseven said: Receiving "strong consideration" and an interview opportunity are two different things. Frazier will likely fall into the latter category, again. Strong Consideration is what they're calling The Rooney Rule nowadays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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