All your juicy Odell Beckham gossip

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I know….the scenario I was talking about would be 4 year including 2 void years. I don’t think there’s any chance he’d offer him a 4 year contract without void years. 

 

Then we agree.  It's semantics, but it would be a 2-year contract for OBJ that Beane stretches out with 2 void years.

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I hear you. I just wonder how up front they are doing this analysis. For example, do they ask to do a physical before making an offer? I would hope so, but sort of wonder how squirrelly OBJ is going to be on that. 

 

It's a team's right to have their physicians perform a physical before signing.  If OBJ refuses and I was Beane, I would pass on the deal.

 

[thenorthremembers]

12 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

It's a team's right to have their physicians perform a physical before signing.  If OBJ refuses and I was Beane, I would pass on the deal.

 

Pretty sure a physical would be a prerequisite for his deal being solidified.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Nobody has seen obj walkin around buffalo huh?  I expected this thread to be 200 pages by now 😁

[billybob71]

5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Nobody has seen obj walkin around buffalo huh?  I expected this thread to be 200 pages by now 😁

Just saw OBJ with Jim Kelly and Josh in Ellicottville😁

[boyst]

6 hours ago, SCBills said:

They can likely backload the Edmunds contract, as he’s a young, talented player who should be a good bet to live up to his contract. 
 

I think it’s likely guys like Poyer & Singletary walk for contracts elsewhere.
 

We have restructures available that don’t hamstring our future, especially with Beane never trading away major picks.
 

Where an OBJ multi-year deal probably hurts us is in finding a little extra here and there for some of the Jordan Phillips, Daquan Jones, Tim Settle, Roger Saffold type signings we saw last year.  

One thing is for sure. I hope Poyer goes to the NFC and we don't see him anytome soon if he does. The chip on his shoulder is going to be enough to win a game against us. 

[Solomon Grundy]

Is anyone watching Von Miller's Twitch feed?? That's where you get the most information

[Mr. WEO]

52 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I hear you. I just wonder how up front they are doing this analysis. For example, do they ask to do a physical before making an offer? I would hope so, but sort of wonder how squirrelly OBJ is going to be on that. 

 

no team is signing this guy without a review off all films and a physical....

 

he knows this.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

no team is signing this guy without a review off all films and a physical....

 

he knows this.

I’ve also not seen him run a route. A guy like OBJ would have all his routes on social media if he was running good routes.

 

We forget he’s had 2 ACL injuries in less than 2 years. 
 

I think he has a documentary coming out so maybe he’s saving all that stuff for the documentary but it’s interesting we haven’t seen anything.

[Big Turk]

25 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

Just saw OBJ with Jim Kelly and Josh in Ellicottville😁

 

Were they heading to Tempo?

[Hebert19]

Did Terry send the jets?

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ve also not seen him run a route. A guy like OBJ would have all his routes on social media if he was running good routes.

 

We forget he’s had 2 ACL injuries in less than 2 years. 
 

I think he has a documentary coming out so maybe he’s saving all that stuff for the documentary but it’s interesting we haven’t seen anything.

 

 

he's out of shape

[Big Turk]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

he's out of shape

 

Obviously in terms of football shape. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

[Mr. WEO]

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Obviously in terms of football shape. 

 

if he's ready to play the only reason he's not signed is that no one has offered him more than that Rams deal last year.

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

if he's ready to play the only reason he's not signed is that no one has offered him more than that Rams deal last year.

 

I mean other than the fact all the teams medical departments would need to sign off on it once he shows he is ready.

[boyst]

I am going to piggy back off of @Logic

 

is OBJ worth something like Singleterry & Edmunds? Is it worth losing Oliver? We have heard this big deal about the process and 1/11. So I think of Poyer.

 

this isn't a knock against OBJ.

 

I think we need to focus players on defense which cost us games, especially in the playoffs. Inversely, on offense we need to focus on coaching, play calling an execution. Last night showed us a lot what of what is capable of when we reach for our potential.

 

Could BJO be a part of what's missing? We don't know. But we do know he's likely to bring a big asset to the table.

 

For the record, I am more cautious and curious then I am anything. I want the coaching staff to fully evaluate him. Sign him on a major incentive deal and let him try to live up to his own hype. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

If you had to choose would your sign OBJ or OT Eric Fisher if he’s willing to play?

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If you had to choose would your sign OBJ or OT Eric Fisher if he’s willing to play?

Obj

[frostbitmic]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If you had to choose would your sign OBJ or OT Eric Fisher if he’s willing to play?

Protect Josh vs take away targets from Diggs.

 

I'd choose protect Josh but Fisher hasn't protected anyone since college.

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, boyst said:

I am going to piggy back off of @Logic

 

is OBJ worth something like Singleterry & Edmunds? Is it worth losing Oliver? We have heard this big deal about the process and 1/11. So I think of Poyer.

 

this isn't a knock against OBJ.

 

I think we need to focus players on defense which cost us games, especially in the playoffs. Inversely, on offense we need to focus on coaching, play calling an execution. Last night showed us a lot what of what is capable of when we reach for our potential.

 

Could BJO be a part of what's missing? We don't know. But we do know he's likely to bring a big asset to the table.

 

For the record, I am more cautious and curious then I am anything. I want the coaching staff to fully evaluate him. Sign him on a major incentive deal and let him try to live up to his own hype. 

 

 

Salary cap is fake accounting. They can keep whoever they want to keep. Cap will be going up significantly every year the next 4-5 years. 

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Salary cap is fake accounting. They can keep whoever they want to keep. Cap will be going up significantly every year the next 4-5 years. 

 

If that was true, then why doesn't a good team sign every quality UFA every year for whatever money they want?

[Mr. WEO]

24 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean other than the fact all the teams medical departments would need to sign off on it once he shows he is ready.

lets assume he is.  Who would offer him more than the Rams?—-and he was healthy when they tossed him a half season contract 

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

If that was true, then why doesn't a good team sign every quality UFA every year for whatever money they want?

 

For one because the owner would have to come up with hundreds of millions of dollars in signing bonuses up front.

 

For two because most teams know UFAs are a good fill in but the draft is where teams built to last must gain most of their talent (ask the Rams)

 

For three because obviously there is a limit as to how much you can do, but rest assured it's a lot more than most people think. Otherwise teams that were more than $100 million over the cap this offseason would have had to be gutted and instead they kept most of their important players and were signing UFA's in addition.

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

lets assume he is.  Who would offer him more than the Rams?—-and he was healthy when they tossed him a half season contract 

People saw him come back from the ACL and be on his way to Super Bowl MVP. 

 

Also, Jerry Jones is now involved.

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

People saw him come back from the ACL and be on his way to Super Bowl MVP. 

 

Also, Jerry Jones is now involved.

can we let go of “on his  way to SB MVP”? He just was not

[Chandler#81]

14 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

If that was true, then why doesn't a good team sign every quality UFA every year for whatever money they want?

Because bonuses come out of the owners pocket for the most part.

[TOboy]

10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

can we let go of “on his  way to SB MVP”? He just was not

I’m guessing you missed the game?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

[Logic]

47 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Salary cap is fake accounting. They can keep whoever they want to keep. Cap will be going up significantly every year the next 4-5 years. 

Nah, the bill always comes due.

See: Tyreek Hill, Devante Adams, AJ Brown, the Rams not re-signing Von Miller, and the sorry state the Rams are in in general this season.

You can get as cute as you want and keep kicking the can down the road, but the bill does eventually come due.

[Lost]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

 

Quite a dropoff in productivity.  A result of age and injuries or QB?

[Dr.Sack]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

Gabe Davis level numbers. I’ll take two. 

[Saint Doug]

I’m fine signing O’BJ, just as long as the term isn’t long (no more than a year). 

[Dr.Sack]

4 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:

I’m fine signing O’BJ, just as long as the term isn’t long (no more than a year). 

Could include an achievable bonus structure like a Super Bowl bonus, performance metric bonus, playing time bonus and roll all that in to a 2-3year deal (2022-2023/2024).

I’m also of the opinion that we don’t absolutely need him given his age, injury history and declining production. Realistically we can find better long term WR options via the draft (1st to 4th round), but I do think depth is critical for this seasons playoff run. 

[The Wiz]

17 minutes ago, Logic said:

Nah, the bill always comes due.

See: Tyreek Hill, Devante Adams, AJ Brown, the Rams not re-signing Von Miller, and the sorry state the Rams are in in general this season.

You can get as cute as you want and keep kicking the can down the road, but the bill does eventually come due.

The bill does come due but the covid years hurt the salary cap and with the new TV contract coming next year, the cap is expected to jump very substantially over the next 2-3 years so some of these big signings won't look as big over the course of a 5-6 year deal. 

Edited December 3, 2022 by The Wiz

[3rdnlng]

OBJ is a big question mark. A multi year deal would take that into account and unless a team is stupid they aren't going to pay him what he could get if he was healthy. If he has faith in himself and is confident that he will return to the player he was then he should be willing to sign a contract that is a "prove it" deal. If he insists on a longer term deal with a bunch of guaranteed money then I would question what he has left. If that faith is there with him there aren't too many situations better than the Bills. Josh Allen as his QB and Diggs to draw the double teams? 

[Pbomb]

51 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

Quite a dropoff in productivity.  A result of age and injuries or QB?

Probably a combination of all, but I think would still be a boost to our offense. At this point if the bills feel it helps their chances even a little go for it

[Warcodered]

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, TOboy said:

I’m guessing you missed the game?

 

No.  I saw him catch 2 passes in 2 Q'S for 52 (35 of it on 1 pass) yards.  Then he blew out his knee (again).

 

The real (season) MVP racked up 8 catches on 10 targets.  

 

 

[billybob71]

20 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

Mighty Taco, Mckinley Mall then a nap on Tre White's money pile