BuffaninSarasota Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 54 minutes ago, Bills2022 said: I am not talking about the players. I know the fans are always going to make excuses. My concern is the coach. 7 straight loses in close games. We always seem to have some excuse for his terrible decisions. You’re all over the place dude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Really looking forward to seeing Shakir activated. We could of really used him last week. This thread has some interesting takes. These hot takes is why we keep coming back xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Bills2022 said: There is always an excuse with this team. If you have been a fan long enough you know exactly what I am talking about. Against the Chiefs it was the coin-flip. Against the Pats it was the wind. Against the Dolphins it was the heat. Then we have all the years of the Patriots are cheaters and the refs blew the call. It is ridiculous. Then everyone goes to the airport to meet them when they lose because the Bills have such great fans. Blah blah blah. How about no more excuses and win a championship. This team has a real problem winning close games. They have lost 7 in a row. They are 1-3 in the playoffs in close games. It is a culture of excuse makers. I hate the Patriots but I always respected Belichick and Brady. They don't have a list of excuses every time they lose a game. We don't play for the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I guess your reading comprehension is off… the Bills offense is great because Josh Allen is a ***** cheat code who bails out everyone in front of him in most games… their offensive line was a sieve from snap 1 on Sunday but Josh is so damn good he’s able to make up for it… and outside of Diggs their receivers are hit or miss and lack YAC ability… and they’ve yet to demonstrate they can run the ball…unfortunately I question whether he lasts the season and/or how many years get taken off his career due to the lack luster effort to “protect Josh”. The defensive line looks terrific… as it very well should… my grudge was with the strategy. See above. The Bills are 4th in the league in YAC. Diggs accounts for about 22% of the YAC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I guess your reading comprehension is off… the Bills offense is great because Josh Allen is a ***** cheat code who bails out everyone in front of him in most games… their offensive line was a sieve from snap 1 on Sunday but Josh is so damn good he’s able to make up for it… and outside of Diggs their receivers are hit or miss and lack YAC ability… and they’ve yet to demonstrate they can run the ball…unfortunately I question whether he lasts the season and/or how many years get taken off his career due to the lack luster effort to “protect Josh”. The defensive line looks terrific… as it very well should… my grudge was with the strategy. See above. Lets do some stats through 3 weeks keeping in mind that week 3 by the second half sometime we were down to 2 starting linemen, some of them 3rd stringers, and one guy finishing the game on a torn ACL. Hurries 7 - 19th fewest in the league Knockdowns 6 - 22nd fewest in the league Sacked 7 - 12th fewest in the league Blitzed 30 - 13th most in the league Pressured per drop back 13.1% which is 31st lowest in the league. Also keep in mind only 4 teams have more pass attempts than Josh and 2 of them have an extra game. Yeah, you might see some turnstile and missed blocks here and there but all teams have that. Yes, Josh even helps make the line look better. Even still the line is also why those stats are in a pretty good place. Mahomes for example is way more pressured than Josh... 31.4% of his drop backs which is 4th most in the league while only being blizted 7 more times than Josh. Edited October 1, 2022 by Scott7975 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bills2022 said: Nonsense. The 13 second meltdown is the actual reason why they lost. The Bills fans now act like it was the coin-flip that cost them the game. If I hear one more Bills fan tell me how the NFL changed the rule because it was unfair to the Bills, I might throw up. They changed the rule because it was unfair to the Bills. How you feeling bud? Edited October 1, 2022 by The Wiz 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Man the drinks were flowing on here tonight sheesh. Panties all wadded up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Lets do some stats through 3 weeks keeping in mind that week 3 by the second half sometime we were down to 2 starting linemen, some of them 3rd stringers, and one guy finishing the game on a torn ACL. Hurries 7 - 19th fewest in the league Knockdowns 6 - 22nd fewest in the league Sacked 7 - 12th fewest in the league Blitzed 30 - 13th most in the league Pressured per drop back 13.1% which is 31st lowest in the league. Also keep in mind only 4 teams have more pass attempts than Josh and 2 of them have an extra game. Yeah, you might see some turnstile and missed blocks here and there but all teams have that. Yes, Josh even helps make the line look better. Even still the line is also why those stats are in a pretty good place. Mahomes for example is way more pressured than Josh... 31.4% of his drop backs which is 4th most in the league while only being blizted 7 more times than Josh. Many teams would love to have our OL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Man the drinks were flowing on here tonight sheesh. Panties all wadded up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Many teams would love to have our OL. I dont think they are great or anything. I dont think they run block very well. As far as pass blocking they do a relatively good job compared to the rest of the league. People see a whiffed block here and there and think it doesnt happen to other teams. It does. Cant have stars everywhere it just isnt cap possible. Would love to see some investment in a piece or two in the draft but they were pretty good the first two weeks. Miami you cant really say anything because they lost most of them. It seems pretty clear that Morse is pretty important to this line and offense though. To me they are trying hard to get to the superbowl and they feel the best way to do that is with a better pass rush. I tend to agree with that because our offense did its job in the playoffs. There are only so many moves you can make each year. Edited October 1, 2022 by Scott7975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I dont think they are great or anything. I dont think they run block very well. As far as pass blocking they do a relatively good job compared to the rest of the league. People see a whiffed block here and there and think it doesnt happen to other teams. It does. Cant have stars everywhere it just isnt cap possible. Would love to see some investment in a piece or two in the draft but they were pretty good the first two weeks. Miami you cant really say anything because they lost most of them. It seems pretty clear that Morse is pretty important to this line and offense though. To me they are trying hard to get to the superbowl and they feel the best way to do that is with a better pass rush. I tend to agree with that because our offense did its job in the playoffs. There are only so many moves you can make each year. Run blocking is a an attitude. There’s a rhythm to it. We’re not a running team. We seem to run just to keep defenses honest. Our passing game is our running game. It’s been that way for a few years but it’s even more so now. Allen is utilizing his check down more than ever. Singletary is 2nd on the team in targets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaise321 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Bills2022 said: I am not talking about the players. I know the fans are always going to make excuses. My concern is the coach. 7 straight loses in close games. We always seem to have some excuse for his terrible decisions. I'm not buying the narrative created by the national sports media that the Bills can't win close games. I can think of several games during that period when the game was within one score late in the third quarter or early in the fourth and the Bills would step on the gas and run up the score for a decisive victory. That's closing out a close game strongly. In my opinion, the Bills are one of, if not the best, team in the NFL. The only way opposing teams can win is to play with everything they have and keep the score close and hope to eke out a 2 or 3 point win. They are that good! In fact, during this same time period, how many games did the Bills lose by 2 scores or more? The only one that comes to mind for me is the Colts game. These pundits read the box scores and create a narrative. Our Buffalo Bills are a great team and they will win a lot of games this year. Kick back in your easy chair , pop open a cold brew and enjoy the ride 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcamm1966 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Trends we never play well at Baltimore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galept Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said: Trends we never play well at Baltimore Lamar last two games against us: 40 yards or less rushing. 165 yards or less passing. Trends can tell whatever story you want them to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 10 hours ago, ScottLaw said: The defensive line looks terrific… as it very well should… my grudge was with the strategy. What would you have done to address the offensive and defensive lines this off-season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ta111 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 42 minutes ago, galept said: Lamar last two games against us: 40 yards or less rushing. 165 yards or less passing. Trends can tell whatever story you want them to. Yes, trends are trends until they’re not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Frazier has done very well at limiting Lamar. That's a trend I can get down with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul Costa Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 hours ago, jcamm1966 said: Trends we never play well at Baltimore I remember going to a game there when Fitz was playing and the Ravens were really good. We lost 38-35 in OT. Played out of their minds offensively that day. Rookie TE fumbled in OT and Ravens kicked a FG to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I see quite a bit of rain in the forecast. Anyone that’s local, are they forecasting downpours? Or more of a steady rain/showers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, bobobonators said: I see quite a bit of rain in the forecast. Anyone that’s local, are they forecasting downpours? Or more of a steady rain/showers? Oh, it’s going to be pouring. Josh Allen touchdowns are going to be raining heavily on the Baltimore Ravens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 It’s a 1 PM National game. barring local coverage on TV Umm 🤔 you still need to be local to listen in. How to stream on NFL+ Bills fans out of market can subscribe to NFL+ to stream Bills games live. though I’ve heard differently here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: I remember going to a game there when Fitz was playing and the Ravens were really good. We lost 38-35 in OT. Played out of their minds offensively that day. Rookie TE fumbled in OT and Ravens kicked a FG to win it. That fumble was the biggest bunch of BS. He had forward motion stopped and was being held up in the air and couldn't get down. The play should have been whistled dead before the fumble. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Blaise321 said: I'm not buying the narrative created by the national sports media that the Bills can't win close games. I can think of several games during that period when the game was within one score late in the third quarter or early in the fourth and the Bills would step on the gas and run up the score for a decisive victory. That's closing out a close game strongly. In my opinion, the Bills are one of, if not the best, team in the NFL. The only way opposing teams can win is to play with everything they have and keep the score close and hope to eke out a 2 or 3 point win. They are that good! In fact, during this same time period, how many games did the Bills lose by 2 scores or more? The only one that comes to mind for me is the Colts game. These pundits read the box scores and create a narrative. Our Buffalo Bills are a great team and they will win a lot of games this year. Kick back in your easy chair , pop open a cold brew and enjoy the ride Agreed. In 2020 the Bills were 5 - 1 in the regular season and 1 - 0 in post season in one score games. That's 6 - 1. The reality is that the national sports media is mostly made up of lazy reporters that don't do their homework. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Out of the frying pan, into the fire. His, we SUCKED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Agreed. In 2020 the Bills were 5 - 1 in the regular season and 1 - 0 in post season in one score games. That's 6 - 1. The reality is that the national sports media is mostly made up of lazy reporters that don't do their homework. Being two seasons removed from that and not having won a one score game since then does not make any of us feel any better. I think the sentiment last year was that we just had terrible luck in one score games and that it was total anomaly. That was certainly my belief. However, it certainly does not help that the Bills are now 0-1 this year. I expect a close game tomorrow so hopefully the Bills will be 1-1 if we are not able to convincingly beat the Ravens. I just hope that if or when we fall too 0-2 in those situations that it doesn't start to screw with the heads of the players and coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Agreed. In 2020 the Bills were 5 - 1 in the regular season and 1 - 0 in post season in one score games. That's 6 - 1. The reality is that the national sports media is mostly made up of lazy reporters that don't do their homework. 2020 doesn’t really matter as much. So, we are 6-7 in the past three seasons, hardly the stuff of champions. The current streak that is more representative of this teams one score performance is 0-7, which was extended by last weeks game. Take off the Bills Fan lenses and you see missed opportunities by the players and questionable decisions by the coaches in that string. Edited October 1, 2022 by Bob in STL 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: 2020 doesn’t really matter as much. So, we are 6-7 in the past three seasons, hardly the stuff of champions. The current streak that is more representative of this teams one score performance is 0-7, which was extended by last weeks game. Take off the Bills Fan lenses and you see missed opportunities by the players and questionable decisions by the coaches in that string. I disagree. In 2020 the Bills did very well in one score games and in 2021 they did not. That's a direct comparison over the last 2 seasons - hardly ancient history. As far as this season goes, one game is hardly going to tell us how the Bills will do in one score games in 2022. Get back to me at the end of this season and if the Bills are 1 - 5 in one score games then you'll have enough data to support your concern. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 16 hours ago, Bills2022 said: Last week it was the heat. This week the rain and wind. This is the NFL. That is what happens. I don't want to hear anything about the weather if the Bills lose. The Dolphins and Ravens play under the same conditions. This team and the fans have a habit of making excuses. Coin flip vs Chiefs. Wind vs Patriots. Heat and Injuries with Dolphins. Enough excuses. Championship teams don't make excuses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whenever this board discuss why the Bills lost, someone always trots out this bromide. The manly thing to do is soldier on! No excuses, men! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Man I miss Jackson. One of my favorite Bills ever. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Kim, Terry may well have other priorities. Noticeably quiet. i am glad that GM, HC are quality, trusted, established—a plus for both us and them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Man I miss Jackson. One of my favorite Bills ever. Can you imagine him on this current team? 😍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Out of the frying pan, into the fire. His, we SUCKED! I was 12 at the time. Probably old enough for some but at that point I didnt understand football enough to even know who the coaches or players really were. I remember Joe Fergusson but thats about it from before the Kelly years. 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Can you imagine him on this current team? 😍 A prime Freddie on this team would be incredible. The dude could do it all... run, block, catch. Edited October 1, 2022 by Scott7975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: That fumble was the biggest bunch of BS. He had forward motion stopped and was being held up in the air and couldn't get down. The play should have been whistled dead before the fumble. Yep. Ray Lewis just raked the ball out as they held him up. But point is we played them tough there. Last couple times not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Win games and win a lot of them to position yourself for the playoffs. Then hopefully a worlds championship. I don’t care what the score is. If all the Bills did was win close games, their ability to put teams away would be questioned. When will the luck run out ? etc etc. It’s a statistical oddity that occurred last season. This year is 3 games old and the Bills one loss was by a narrow margin in oppressive heat with a high number of injuries. The mistakes that cost them were largely of execution , save for one curious defensive call on a 3rd and 22 vs a non elite QB. I’d be a lot more concerned if the Bills lost in a blowout vs this Miami team than a close tough loss. The best teams will still lose a few in the course of a season. The Bills win most of their games and they’re not close. They lose a few, but by a narrow margin. Objectively this seems like a manufactured crisis. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Man I miss Jackson. One of my favorite Bills ever. Was that the return of McGahee where they beat Baltimore pretty badly and unexpectedly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Being two seasons removed from that and not having won a one score game since then does not make any of us feel any better. I think the sentiment last year was that we just had terrible luck in one score games and that it was total anomaly. That was certainly my belief. However, it certainly does not help that the Bills are now 0-1 this year. I expect a close game tomorrow so hopefully the Bills will be 1-1 if we are not able to convincingly beat the Ravens. I just hope that if or when we fall too 0-2 in those situations that it doesn't start to screw with the heads of the players and coaches. Would you rather have the Bills go 14- 3 with an 0-3 record in one score games, or go 11-6 but with a 3-3 mark in games decided by one score? I doubt the Bills are losing their minds over this. Edited October 1, 2022 by Boatdrinks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Process Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 So rain and 20+mph sustained winds tomorrow? Surprised the over/under is still at 51. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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