Training Camp practice 7/30 - The pads come on

[Draconator]

21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Diggs nearly dropped the baby!

 

DON'T DROP THE BABY!!!!!!

[The Wiz]

4 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Diggs nearly dropped the baby!

 

DON'T DROP THE BABY!!!!!!

Diggs don't do hand offs, need to throw the baby for him to secure it. 

[stevewin]

9 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Diggs nearly dropped the baby!

 

DON'T DROP THE BABY!!!!!!

Stef's baby holding form is almost as bad as Mike Rob's table jumping form.  Support the head! 😛

 

[Rocky Landing]

4 hours ago, Irv said:

The boneheads jumping on at the end should be cut.  What a couple of morons.  

 

4 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Losing Diggs and Davis would be a pretty heavy blow to our offense.

 

4 hours ago, Irv said:

Don't matter.  Don't care if it's Tom Brady.  You don't do that. 

 

 

 

LOL!!!

You're saying we should cut Diggs, and Davis! Maybe we should cut Allen for starting a fight???

[MasterStrategist]

33 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Whatever works, but that is certainly an interesting strategy with arguably the best offensive player on the planet… Obviously it will depend on how successful the run game is, but I have no doubt teams would rather let Singletary/Cook/Moss try and beat them than Josh Allen with the ball in his hands for most of the game…. Josh is also a rhythm passer, the run, run, pass stuff isn’t really his game. 
 

Hard to disagree with you though. They loaded up on run blocking linemen and yes, the addition of Kromer…. Just hope they aren’t fixing something that ain’t broken and get back to their pass happy tendencies when necessary because the offense should run through Josh Allen. 👍🏻

Poster just said 60% pass and 40% run, and you reply with "run, run, pass".  Hmm...

 

Balance is critical, and that ringed true several times last year.  We need the threat of running, and not passing/going empty sets on every early down.  60/40 or 65/35 is probably the best Balance, to keep Josh heavily involved and also give playaction (strong suit of Josh) more chance at success.  

 

Dorsey isn't converting this team to run heavy.  He's been quoted saying hes looking to field a "fast/speed" skill position group, that is attacking. But all good offenses have some Balance, or call it "multiple", ability to beat various looks and schemes.   Everyone of us remember games against Steelers and Jags, cover 2 looks all game with Daboll staying stubborn to his pass plays and empty sets.  I think Daboll was great and deserving of his praise, but he also seemed reluctant to adapt throughout games, and sometimes stayed too aggressive. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I am curious on the time it takes for them to get the punt off

 

 

that is a great point. I feel like Haack’s hang time is potentially misleading given his slow release time. 
 

Haack is a block waiting to happen, and if Araiza can hold, that should be the end of the competition.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Warcodered]

16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

He seems much more settled in his role/comfortable than in some of his previous mic'd ups.

[Rampage]

42 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Talk about fluid, holy.

[maddenboy]

2 hours ago, The Wiz said:

Diggs don't do hand offs, need to throw the baby for him to secure it. 

best if its just as he is coming out of his break. 

[BigAl2526]

5 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

? You got the right player?  ND and NC state for mccloud. 

You're right.  I was going by memory, and my memory was faulty.  He ended up at Notre Dame.

[Ralonzo]

2 hours ago, Draconator said:

Diggs nearly dropped the baby!

 

DON'T DROP THE BABY!!!!!!

Maybe someone can drop this one this year.

[Orlando Tim]

12 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

Maybe someone can drop this one this year.

This is not real- the dude who wrote it a few hours later admitted it was joke.

[BigAl2526]

7 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I am curious on the time it takes for them to get the punt off

 

 

One of the criticisms of Araiza coming out of college was that he got punts off so quickly, that combined with his poor hang time, it was very difficult for his teammates to get downfield and cover effectively.  I know with some punters the problem is just the opposite.  They become vulnerable to having the punt blocked because they take too much time getting it off.  If today is any indication, his hang time is improving.  I would guess the Bills can help him adjust the time he takes to get a punt off so that it will be advantageous for the Bills.  It all hints at the notion that Araiza is a kid who is loaded with raw talent but did not have great coaching on the finer points of punting.  The lack of certain qualities (hang time etc.) is why Araiza was not the first punter to be drafted and he lasted as long as he did.  The Bills are gambling that they can coach him up quickly.

[Irv]

3 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

 

 

 

LOL!!!

You're saying we should cut Diggs, and Davis! Maybe we should cut Allen for starting a fight???

 

What a mouth breather!

[Augie]

3 hours ago, Draconator said:

Diggs nearly dropped the baby!

 

DON'T DROP THE BABY!!!!!!

 

 

….and…..well……they have these tiny little necks…..

 

…

Edited July 31, 2022 by Augie

[Richard Noggin]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I wish this kind of engagement and intensity translated into making plays on game day. What an effing GEM he'd be if that was the case. And maybe he's finally ready to just play fast and loose and impact the game. We don't know he isn't still catching up to the game, but we haven't seen the results on the field yet. 

[CSBill]

9 hours ago, stevewin said:

Stef's baby holding form is almost as bad as Mike Rob's table jumping form.  Support the head! 😛

 

 

Exactly what I (and mom) was thinking.

[Chandler#81]

Mitch talks about the scuffle, the shuffle & Oliver’s improvement 

 

[Ralonzo]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

This is not real- the dude who wrote it a few hours later admitted it was joke.

 

Put it on the bulletin board anyway ! 

[Not at the table Karlos]

10 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

that is a great point. I feel like Haack’s hang time is potentially misleading given his slow release time. 
 

Haack is a block waiting to happen, and if Araiza can hold, that should be the end of the competition.

Araiza also has a slow release time(unless he's fixed it since OTAs. Nothing has been reported on it. He seemed to fix his Hang time since though)

 

Hang time does not include the release time. 

Edited July 31, 2022 by Not at the table Karlos

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Araiza also has a slow release time(unless he's fixed it since OTAs. Nothing has been reported on it. He seemed to fix his Hang time since though)

 

Hang time does not include the release time. 

Re your last comment, I agree, but it sounds like these beat reporters have been doing the hang time calculations. So I am not super confident that we are getting accurate times.

 

[EffKCChiefs]

12 hours ago, stevewin said:

Stef's baby holding form is almost as bad as Mike Rob's table jumping form.  Support the head! 😛

 

BFD, you could tell he didn't want to do it. God forbid he dropped the little rodent. 

[Don Otreply]

11 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:

Poster just said 60% pass and 40% run, and you reply with "run, run, pass".  Hmm...

 

Balance is critical, and that ringed true several times last year.  We need the threat of running, and not passing/going empty sets on every early down.  60/40 or 65/35 is probably the best Balance, to keep Josh heavily involved and also give playaction (strong suit of Josh) more chance at success.  

 

Dorsey isn't converting this team to run heavy.  He's been quoted saying hes looking to field a "fast/speed" skill position group, that is attacking. But all good offenses have some Balance, or call it "multiple", ability to beat various looks and schemes.   Everyone of us remember games against Steelers and Jags, cover 2 looks all game with Daboll staying stubborn to his pass plays and empty sets.  I think Daboll was great and deserving of his praise, but he also seemed reluctant to adapt throughout games, and sometimes stayed too aggressive. 

Imo, Dabol’s never had a good feel for how to create/use a run game as we saw every year he was here, the exception was the later part of last season, maybe the light went on for him or “someone else”  in effect pulled rank and forced the issue, which I believe was the case, this was the the issue that caused friction between he and McDermott. I think Dorsey will not only have a wider range of usable offense weapons (by design) he will use all of them more effectively than Dabol did. Yes I’m optimistic 👍
 

Go Bills!!!

[Roundybout]

 

Thad is RAPIDLY approaching Mike Rodak levels of douchebaggery 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

12 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Thad is RAPIDLY approaching Mike Rodak levels of douchebaggery 

Far better it from me to defend Cover1.  

I think he’s a just a super fan thinking he’s a professional. 

we’ve got lots of that ilk here  

 

he used to post here but couldn’t handle criticism of his “work” 

 

Point being— 
Open to the public means just that 

 

if the Bills wanted to keep everything secret, the workouts would be private. 

Edited July 31, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[yall]

25 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Thad is RAPIDLY approaching Mike Rodak levels of douchebaggery 

I'm sure he just gave cover one a lot more clicks.

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Far better it from me to defend Cover1.  

I think he’s a just a super fan thinking he’s a professional. 

we’ve got lots of that ilk here  

 

he used to post here but couldn’t handle criticism of his “work” 

 

Point being— 
Open to the public means just that 

 

if the Bills wanted to keep everything secret, the workouts would be private. 

 

You think so? I think the Cover 1 guys do a good job at filling a niche that generic journalists like Thad don't do, which is more in-depth analysis. 

 

Buffalo News has gotten in on this too with Mark Gaughn's new online series. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

46 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

You think so? I think the Cover 1 guys do a good job at filling a niche that generic journalists like Thad don't do, which is more in-depth analysis. 

 

Buffalo News has gotten in on this too with Mark Gaughn's new online series. 

yes I think so. 
 

I don’t have much respect because he  left this place because he couldn’t take criticism. 

🐈‍⬛ MEOW. 
 

Part 2 of that IIRC he wasn’t allowed to post some of his stuff. 
Got in a huff over that too. 

Edited July 31, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

yes I think so. 
 

I don’t have much respect because he  left this place because he couldn’t take criticism. 

🐈‍⬛ MEOW. 
 

 

I mean how long ago was that? Seems like there are multiple people working for that group now and it's respected enough to have a bunch of Bills players do interviews with them.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

I mean how long ago was that? Seems like there are multiple people working for that group now and it's respected enough to have a bunch of Bills players do interviews with them.

can’t a guy just not like someone??

 

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

Thad is RAPIDLY approaching Mike Rodak levels of douchebaggery 

 

The Bills probably aren't happy about that though.  Who needs a Belichick film crew when there is already one in house haha.  Didnt they make some rule before that they didnt even want starting position groups being reported on or something like that?

18 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

yes I think so. 
 

I don’t have much respect because he  left this place because he couldn’t take criticism. 

🐈‍⬛ MEOW. 
 

Part 2 of that IIRC he wasn’t allowed to post some of his stuff. 
Got in a huff over that too. 

 

I think it was more along the lines of when he posted here it always seem to be more like advertising his stuff here for clicks than actual fan discussion.  Maybe I am thinking of someone else though.  Im getting old and brain damaged haha.

[Doc]

Teams aren’t practicing anything real when fans are there. It’s all just for show. They save the real stuff for practices that aren’t open to the public and when training camp is over.  And Bills fans have been posting clips from practice for years now. It won’t make/hasn’t made a difference.

[Warcodered]

34 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

can’t a guy just not like someone??

 

Sure that's fine, it's just Cover1 is more than just that one guy now.

 

10 minutes ago, Doc said:

Teams aren’t practicing anything real when fans are there. It’s all just for show. They save the real stuff for practices that aren’t open to the public and when training camp is over.  And Bills fans have been posting clips from practice for years now. It won’t make/hasn’t made a difference.

I mean technically they haven't been at camp the last two season, but I'm sure it's fine though.

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I mean technically they haven't been at camp the last two season, but I'm sure it's fine though.

Huh?  Last year camp was in Buffalo. 

[Warcodered]

Just now, Doc said:

Huh?  Last year camp was in Buffalo. 

Bills fans have not been at Bills training camp the last two seasons.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

Bills fans have not been at Bills training camp the last two seasons.

 

Last year camp was in Buffalo.  And Bills fans were there.  I was among them.

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Last year camp was in Buffalo.  And Bills fans were there.  I was among them.

For like 3 days.

https://www.wkbw.com/sports/buffalo-bills/buffalo-bills-announce-2021-training-camp-schedule-three-practices-open-to-public#:~:text=(WKBW) — The Buffalo Bills,and can be ordered here.

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

For like 3 days.

https://www.wkbw.com/sports/buffalo-bills/buffalo-bills-announce-2021-training-camp-schedule-three-practices-open-to-public#:~:text=(WKBW) — The Buffalo Bills,and can be ordered here.

 

So what?  It was still open to fans.  What's your problem here?