NoSaint Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 He definitely put cart faaaaaar before horse unless he’s seen something I haven’t but will note if the guy was taken into custody for mental health evaluations and had an incident talking about shooting his school… even benign toy war games are probably a bad idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I'm not sure what you're struggling with at this point. The likelihood fo being shot by police as a black man is more than twice as high as it is for a white man. So I am simply saying he likely would have been shot if black. I know you know this already so why are you pretending to not understand my straightforward statement? My issue is that the racial issue of this event is that a White Supremacist murdered 10 people, you've thrown in a tangent to the issues of race in policing that really has nothing to do with this incident at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: 1.) That's not how things are done in a civilized society. 2.) You have no way to prove your second point and it's insulting to police officers. It's not meant to insult. It's an opinion based on fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, aristocrat said: that’s a different convo. You said gun owners were a small percentage of voters Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough then. I should have said a small minority of their constituents is not in favor of assault rifle and high volume magazine bans. I thought I implied that when I mentioned Scalia’s opinion on Heller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, Warcodered said: My issue is that the racial issue of this event is that a White Supremacist murdered 10 people, you've thrown in a tangent to the issues of race in policing that really has nothing to do with this incident at all. It was a simple question many will ask. Some already are, based on recent previous racial events. You understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, K-9 said: Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough then. I should have said a small minority of their constituents is not in favor of assault rifle and high volume magazine bans. I thought I implied that when I mentioned Scalia’s opinion on Heller. you were clear. He was either reading to fast, or through defensive lenses. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, Mr. WEO said: It's not meant to insult. It's an opinion based on fact. It's an opinion based on a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, Doc Brown said: It's an opinion based on a lie. what lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) No doubt in my mind that a thread of this nature would come down to this kind of back and forth. Edited May 15, 2022 by T&C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It was a simple question many will ask. Some already are, based on recent previous racial events. You understand this. It's irrelevant to this event though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Im not into things that have not been verified.......did the parents even know there were signs of this is my question before I start blaming them. Political affiliations of the parents......did they buy things that aided him in this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicagobills Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Nate is a clown I lost all respect for him today 17 minutes ago, Rigotz said: This ain’t Bills related and as much as we all detest the shooter, we don’t need to talk about him or his family on the Bills section. Yes it is Nate talks about the bills for a living Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: what lie? I'll answer in ppp. Wrong place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Not a great take, but it has been a ***** 48hrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just another terrible take from the endlessly terrible take machine Geary 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, Warcodered said: It's irrelevant to this event though. To many here, no doubt. To the folks who have suffered these losses, probably more on their minds. 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I'll answer in ppp. Wrong place. sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilmann Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 They should charge him for that hot garbage take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: To many here, no doubt. To the folks who have suffered these losses, probably more on their minds. For some reason I think they're focus is on someone murdering 10 people because of race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Nate please 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: Nate Geary from WGR with the worst take of all time. I lost all respect for him today Kind of strange that day after shooting, this is where your gonna direct your anger. Not a great take by him, but more understandable than yours given what happened 24 hours ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: For some reason I think they're focus is on someone murdering 10 people because of race. no doubt that is foremost. But there are already news accounts quoting residents asking what I asked. It's odd this guy chose this area to carry out his manifesto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Quote this lunatic was torturing and killing cats apparently, I wouldn't doubt if his parents knew what a little monster they were incubating. Others knew of of his instability also: “A school official reported that this very troubled young man had made statements indicating that he wanted to do a shooting, either at a graduation ceremony, or sometime after,” the same government official familiar with the case told the News. State Police were sent to investigate and Gendron, under a section of state mental health laws, was referred for a mental health evaluation and counseling, the official told the News. https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2022/...about-him.htm As part of the online writings, the alleged shooter, Gendron, alleges he obtained some of his weapons via purchases he made at gun stores in New York and Pennsylvania and at least one other gun that was a gift from his father. https://abc7ny.com/buffalo-shooting-...rket/11852069/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Mass shooting in Southern California: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/multiple-people-shot-at-orange-county-church-sheriff-says/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Chicagobills said: Nate Geary from WGR with the worst take of all time. I lost all respect for him today Parents should be charged. Are we saying the parents had absolutely no idea what the son was doing ? They didn't walk into his room once and saw the AR-15 and the bullet proof vest and the hundreds of round of ammunition on his bed ? 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 42 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Im not into things that have not been verified.......did the parents even know there were signs of this is my question before I start blaming them. Political affiliations of the parents......did they buy things that aided him in this? blame is a tricky word bought him a gun, obviously knew he had made generalized threats at school as he was held for a couple days in a mental health evaluation last year. So odds are there are some justifiable fingers to point… just how many and what’s being said alongside the pointing. that said this is an 18 year old of legal adulthood. So while we will likely be justified in judging them for some choices- it’s also not a 15 year old here either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Parents should be charged. Are we saying the parents had absolutely no idea what the son was doing ? They didn't walk into his room once and saw the AR-15 and the bullet proof vest and the hundreds of round of ammunition on his bed ? bull####. Tell us, oh wise one. What the ***** should they be charged with? Edited May 15, 2022 by Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: I'm not sure what you're struggling with at this point. The likelihood fo being shot by police as a black man is more than twice as high as it is for a white man. So I am simply saying he likely would have been shot if black. I know you know this already so why are you pretending to not understand my straightforward statement? I'm Atta boy. Should have led with that 3 posts ago. I 💯 stand with my black brothers and sisters I'm mourning... This hurts 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Beast said: bull####. Tell us, oh wise one. What the ***** should they be charged with? How about being an accomplice to mass murder. I ask you again, how could the parents not know about it ??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said: How about being an accomplice to mass murder. I ask you again, how could the parents not know about it ??? You seem to know that they knew something. Owning guns is LEGAL. Owning ammunition is LEGAL. Owning body armor is LEGAL. So, again, tell us what you know that the parents knew what this idiots was going to do. Show us proof. You made the statement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 4:07 PM, Not at the table Karlos said: My friend's dad works security there and was on way up there to relieve guard that was killed. Wtf is wrong with people i think perhaps worth the reminder that this isn’t an abstract thread- this is a Buffalo message board and members of this board both participating and reading may be more impacted than you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: How about being an accomplice to mass murder. I ask you again, how could the parents not know about it ??? Of course you'd respond with a cute little laughing emoji because you have absolutely nothing of substance to offer. The great thing about the legal system in New York is you need probable cause to make and arrest and beyond a reasonable doubt to convict at a trial. Not maybe's and could be's without any proof like you think it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dr. Who said: Well, I do not assent to those who are claiming this fella is representative of viewers of a particular television network or who vote a certain party. I don't believe white supremacy is an agenda pushed by conservatives, if that is what you are asserting or implying. Regardless, if that is your position, it is a prejudice with which dialogue is not possible. There is a specific network that hosts programs which clearly push an agenda which influenced this person. That same network is also clearly aligned with a political party most of the time. If you can't admit that then I agree there's no dialogue possible. Edited May 15, 2022 by Captain Caveman 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 7:12 PM, TheBrownBear said: These kids are getting radicalized on various sites and gaming forums from a young age. He could just as easily been radicalized on Fox news, his ideology about white replacement is at the heart of Tucker Carlson's rantings. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoPoy88 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Kind of strange that day after shooting, this is where your gonna direct your anger. Not a great take by him, but more understandable than yours given what happened 24 hours ago. I assume Geary is tweeting in anger here since there’s no such crime as “grooming” a terrorist in NY. But there are concepts like criminal negligence that could be expanded to cover monstrosities like this and his parents, at least when the perpetrator is still a minor. Again, not the case here (barely) but I kinda get where he’s coming from. Everyone’s pissed; I know I am. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 So often, someone knows something or may have a suspicion that someone they know may be planning violence. That is the frustration some have expressed regarding his parents. I’m sure the FBI is interviewing and investigating them regarding any knowledge they had of his plans. They certainly knew their son had psychological issues since he was referred for counseling due to concerns about killing students in school last year. Red flags everywhere on this kid. If you know something, say something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, Andy1 said: So often, someone knows something or may have a suspicion that someone they know may be planning violence. That is the frustration some have expressed regarding his parents. I’m sure the FBI is interviewing and investigating them regarding any knowledge they had of his plans. They certainly knew their son had psychological issues since he was referred for counseling due to concerns about killing students in school last year. Red flags everywhere on this kid. If you know something, say something. Yeah... Or at least ask: "Where you going with all that tactical gear and weapons? Road trip?" Given his past threats and mental state, why was this not a concern to the people close to him? Can hold a bartender for over-serving, why not others in this situation. Given his past, why wasn't someone paying attention? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeF Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) Thurman Thomas Family Foundation has started a fund...and given the first $10K https://give.thurmanthomas.com/ Edited May 16, 2022 by JoeF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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