YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Augie said: Ford is WAY too high on BOTH of those lists. This feels like the last camp for Cody in WNY. Can they get anything for him? Beans got picks for *checks notes* Russell Bodine and Marshall Newhouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Just imagine what he could do to a burning table! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Beane is making this a luxury draft. Except for CB. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Beans got picks for *checks notes* Russell Bodine and Marshall Newhouse Don't forget Tyrod Taylor AND AJ McCarron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Another versatile OLine player...not a bad backup plan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Don't forget Tyrod Taylor AND AJ McCarron And Wyatt Tel…oh, ugh. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 After reading what the OP had for a link i feel he is something that McD & Beane like to have in their back pocket a versatile veteran back up that can help the younger guys & i think he will be the guy over Hart going into the season . I believe the Bills O line led by Kromer this year will be a strength of the team and get even better as the year goes on & just like last season will be playing their best ball late in the season when it counts !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 9 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: I don't know much about anything but that's a lot of snaps and little pens. Can you get credited for a sack allowed if you were holding on a play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Don't forget Tyrod Taylor AND AJ McCarron And Lee Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 I went back and watched some of out game vs the Titans. Quessenberry looked pretty good against Jerry Hughes, et al, but who didn’t? Quessenberry looked good in double teams and walling off on the backside. Didn’t look like a liability imo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: With this signing, I still think they may take an OL in the top four rounds but now I'm thinking they take four of these 5 positions - CB first round and then in no particular order - WR, , S, NT. I mostly agree but I can't see them going interior D-line. Ed Oliver, DaQuan Jones, Jordan Phillips, Timothy Settle, Eli Ankou, Brandin Bryant... it seems we're set here unless someone becomes disproportionately available. As for Quessenberry and the O-line, it's hard to project the puzzle pieces but so much of that is dictated by injuries anyways. When the smoke clears I believe they'll be an improved unit and that's all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 13 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I am def not complaining we need a vet on the roster that can start at both OG and OT just in case. Fills another draft hole. I think you need 7 OL of starter quality for 17 games plus playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: sounds "sneaky" not so good Could become a future 6th round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Was his Dad the Kansas City Royals relief pitcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: Was his Dad the Kansas City Royals relief pitcher? No, different spelling. Loved his extreme underhand delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 This tells me Brandon Beane is trading away his late round draft picks OMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 10 hours ago, OZBILLS said: I don't know much about anything but that's a lot of snaps and little pens. Can you get credited for a sack allowed if you were holding on a play? I don't think so. I believe it is either a sack or a penalty, not both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 10 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: I don't think so. I believe it is either a sack or a penalty, not both. Then those numbers look pretty good. I imagine there are heaps of top rated O-Liners with high penalty numbers and low sack allowed numbers, because their holding prevented the sack they were going to allow anyway! I think it makes him look heaps better. Just reduce the sack allowed by 25% and keep pens low and he could be really useful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) On 4/21/2022 at 12:53 PM, JoPoy88 said: 1. not all grades are subjective. Certain grade can be assigned based on measurable qualities. 2. if PFF made readily available the qualifications of their “graders” so we could make a better determination of their expertise, I’d be less inclined to criticize them. As it stands, that info doesn’t appear to be available. You know who seems to trust PFF grades? The Bills. I'm not saying they're using PFF, but it appears that their pro scouting is pretty much in line with PFF's. Every OL free agent signing has been a guy PFF liked better than the in-house option (I'm including Bates here because he is both - PFF liked him a whole lot better than the guys who got the majority of the snaps last year). The pure "counting stat" of sacks allowed makes Quessenberry seem like a awful choice, but the Bills are trusting PFF (type) grading rather than that staggering number. It'll be interesting to see if the Bills/PFF got it right. Edited April 23, 2022 by The Frankish Reich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 A few excerpts from the Buffalo News article on David Quessenberry: A 6-foot-5, 310-pounder, Quessenberry started all 17 games in the regular season last year for the Titans, in addition to the team's playoff game against Cincinnati. In 2020, he appeared in 12 games for Tennessee, starting six times. Quessenberry, 31, has traveled a remarkable road to arrive in Buffalo. Originally a sixth-round draft pick of the Houston Texans in 2013, he played in two games as a rookie before his career was put on pause. In June 2014, Quessenberry was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Amazingly, he beat the odds and made an emotional return to the field in December 2017. Quessenberry comes from a football family. His dad, David Sr., played for the Naval Academy, as did his brother, Paul. Additionally, his youngest brother, Scott, is currently an offensive lineman for the Texans. Quessenberry figures to compete for the swing tackle job as the primary backup to starters Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown. He has experience playing on both sides of the line, as his six starts in 2020 came at left tackle after Taylor Lewan was injured for the Titans. Analytics website Pro Football Focus had a favorable review of Quessenberry’s play in 2021. He ranked tied for 14th out of 57 tackles who played at least 633 offensive snaps, with a grade of 80.6 (out of 100), according to PFF. For comparison, Dawkins was the Bills’ highest-rated tackle, and he ranked tied for 17th. Quessenberry excelled as a run blocker, with an overall grade of 89.1 that ranked fourth in the league. However, his pass blocking left plenty to be desired, according to PFF. His 61.6 grade in that category ranked 42nd. Quessenberry was also charged by PFF with allowing 11 sacks, which led the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 He is your swing tackle if the draft doesn't allow them to address that spot. And he can play and not be a liability at either tackle spot should we need it. Anything that keeps Tommy Doyle further away from needing to take a meaningful snap at tackle in a football game is good with me. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 I don’t know the guy so I’ll trust you’re guys gut on him against the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 4/21/2022 at 4:56 PM, Beast said: He's coming from Tennessee that was one of the more run heavy teams out there. If he gets significant playing time he will be pass blocking more than he ever has. I'm not doing flips over this signing but at the same time I'm not saying it's going to be a big problem, though I will admit I don't expect much out of him. Just got to keep the perspective that he has started alot of NFL football and is a great run blocker who was brought here to be a backup. Doyle came in near the goaline and a bit when they went to 6 offensive linemen I believe, hoping this guy really helps in those roles. Roger Saffold, this guy, and Spencer Brown are all good run blockers hopefully when we are up on teams and want to.run clock or down around the goal line we just got alot more physical upfront. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) His contract details are on Sportrac. 1,750,000 cap hit 400,000 dead cap https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/david-quessenberry-12458/ So not a minimum contract like Hart, Mancz or Boettger. Seems like he has a bigger shot on making a roster. Right now I'd say it looks like Dawkins-Saffold-Morse-Bates-Brown with Quessenberry, Doyle, draft pick and Ford/Mancz on the bench. Edited April 27, 2022 by No_Matter_What 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 But can he throw submarine style? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Will the offense line be disciplined enough to substitute when they need to go from pass first to run first without losing the ability to make the plays when they do not expect it like throwing to a TE with run first OL or running for first downs when pass first OL is in? That is the Nirvana of offense lines but it requires good scouting of opponents and discipline not taking bad penalties Bills used to have a third OT who played regularly as swing tackle and it was best role for him for he did not stay healthy when forced to multiple games full time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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