strive_for_five_guy Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Love Poyer. Love him. But you can't pay everyone. Also, we've built an incredibly talented roster and have A LOT of comp picks coming our way if we let players like him go next offseason. Poyer would probably net us a 3rd round comp pick. Don’t dare this guy: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Bills have 3 players under contract with Drew Rosenhaus as their agent: Duke Johnson Jaquan Johnson Greg Rousseau Most teams have 1-2. There are no unusual outliers here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: When does that happen though? Is this your way of saying you don’t believe Knox is a top 10 tight end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, Logic said: Is this your way of saying you don’t believe Knox is a top 10 tight end? Are you saying he is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 31 minutes ago, Process said: Re Poyer, I doubt we could get much for him. Would rather keep him for the SB run and let him walk next year, than take a 4th round pick. Unless he pushes the issue, I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Rosenhaus has said he has a great relationship with Buffalo. Plus I think if a player has played well and deserves a pay raise but it's not a bump the Bills can pay I think they do work with player to get best deal in a trade with no hard feelings and happy to help a deserving player. So Poyer will get to decide if the deal he can get with Bills is acceptable or if he has to get what he can. Either way Bills won't try to keep him f f om getting what he is worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Lewis Cine just visited OBD the other day. His scouting report reminds me of Poyer. It's possible safety is in the conversation at 25 as much as that would make certain Bills fans roll their eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Fans clearly learned nothing from the last time they speculated on a tweet... 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Lewis Cine just visited OBD the other day. His scouting report reminds me of Poyer. It's possible safety is in the conversation at 25 as much as that would make certain Bills fans roll their eyes. And they met with Kyle Hamilton and Joe B today speculated that they might try to trade up for him if he starts to slide. Plus Poyer/his wife seem to agitate about his contract every offseason. He just put in his best season as a pro and has one last shot to get big money. None of this is surprising. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Is this your way of saying you don’t believe Knox is a top 10 tight end? 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Are you saying he is? Knox: Receptions - 49 (18th) Yards - 587 (15th) Touchdowns - 9 (T-1st) Yards / Reception - 12.0 (20th) Deep Receptions - 5 (4th) Deep Yards - 160 (T-3rd) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, AuntieEm said: Plus I think if a player has played well and deserves a pay raise but it's not a bump the Bills can pay I think they do work with player to get best deal in a trade with no hard feelings and happy to help a deserving player. So Poyer will get to decide if the deal he can get with Bills is acceptable or if he has to get what he can. Either way Bills won't try to keep him f f om getting what he is worth. Poyer is probably looking for a little bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, Malazan said: Knox: Receptions - 49 (18th) Yards - 587 (15th) Touchdowns - 9 (T-1st) Yards / Reception - 12.0 (20th) Deep Receptions - 5 (4th) Deep Yards - 160 (T-3rd) He caught a lot of TDs no doubt. Outside that he’s still an average blocker and imo not really a candidate for top 10 best tight end in the NFL. And that’s less a knock on him than indicative of the depth of talent at that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 54 minutes ago, Logic said: Re-signing Diggs likely means that one -- if not two -- of Knox, Edmunds, and Poyer will not be re-signed. Given age and recent safety prospect visits, I'd list Poyer as the MOST likely not to be here in 2023. I'm not commenting on that decision one way or the other. I love Jordan Poyer. Most underrated safety in the NFL. I'm just recognizing the reality that you can't pay everybody, and that a 32 year old safety seems like a logical choice to let walk after the season. My order of importance of those 3 as of right now, is Knox, Poyer, Edmunds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: uh oh.. 😳 https://askinglot.com/who-does-drew-rosenhaus-represent-in-the-nfl "Notable players Rosenhaus has represented or represents include Antonio Brown, Chad Johnson, Frank Gore, Rex Grossman, Rob Gronkowski, LeSean McCoy, Jimmy Smith, Plaxico Burress, Terrell Owens, Tyreek Hill, and Warren Sapp." IIRC he had Johnny Manziel as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: My order of importance of those 3 as of right now, is Knox, Poyer, Edmunds. It’s crazy though because Our two defensive captains are Poyer and Edmunds but we’re talking like both are gone. I don’t really know what is going to happen with them. Realistically it seems like there’s not enough cap space to go around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboticus Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 53 minutes ago, H2o said: Rachel Bush after seeing Diggs get a new contract: "See, they just paid Stefon big money, blahbiddy, blah, blah, blah-blah, blah, blah Was my first thought. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GoBills808 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsMafi$ said: Is that real lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Logic said: Re-signing Diggs likely means that one -- if not two -- of Knox, Edmunds, and Poyer will not be re-signed. Given age and recent safety prospect visits, I'd list Poyer as the MOST likely not to be here in 2023. I'm not commenting on that decision one way or the other. I love Jordan Poyer. Most underrated safety in the NFL. I'm just recognizing the reality that you can't pay everybody, and that a 32 year old safety seems like a logical choice to let walk after the season. Truth. Although, if Beane can’t meet the desired price he might choose to trade him before this season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 Rachel Bush retweet. 😮 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 I’ve legit never seen anyone watch their husband’s teammates pockets as closely as Rachel Bush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Rachel Bush retweet. 😮 Think the Bills let his contract run out, hopefully with a super bowl victory. He’s a great player but for what I think he will want at his age I’d pass with all the other contracts coming up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 43 minutes ago, NewEra said: on a serious note, I think he’s in control of his own destiny in Buffalo. I think that we’ll offer him around 11M a year, like Milano. If he wants more, I’d expect him to play out the season and leave as a FA, with hopes of landing a comp pick. I doubt any team would even trade a 3rd rd pick for him. I like and agree with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, GoBills808 said: I’ve legit never seen anyone watch their husband’s teammates pockets as closely as Rachel Bush Poyer probably didn’t hit her with a prenup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, Motor26 said: Think the Bills let his contract run out, hopefully with a super bowl victory. He’s a great player but for what I think he will want at his age I’d pass with all the other contracts coming up. I don’t think Poyer reports to camp. Trade him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, AuntieEm said: Plus I think if a player has played well and deserves a pay raise but it's not a bump the Bills can pay I think they do work with player to get best deal in a trade with no hard feelings and happy to help a deserving player. So Poyer will get to decide if the deal he can get with Bills is acceptable or if he has to get what he can. Either way Bills won't try to keep him f f om getting what he is worth. I like it, I agree. This will be the first time the Bills FO have thought one of their elites is on the decline or exceed the market value for age vs position. It is interesting. Regardless of how this plays out, I believe Poyer plays for the Bills this year. The Bills have paid Poyer and both should have mutual respect and appreciation. Poyer's wife is a different story. Poyer will play this year and the Bills will compete for a SB, go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Yea... He's looking for that bread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 Trade Poyer and 25 to Philadelphia for 15? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Logic said: Re-signing Diggs likely means that one -- if not two -- of Knox, Edmunds, and Poyer will not be re-signed. Given age and recent safety prospect visits, I'd list Poyer as the MOST likely not to be here in 2023. I'm not commenting on that decision one way or the other. I love Jordan Poyer. Most underrated safety in the NFL. I'm just recognizing the reality that you can't pay everybody, and that a 32 year old safety seems like a logical choice to let walk after the season. exaclty...free agent comp pick would aslo take the string out esp if we draft a replacement early rounds...Jacquan Johnson has been a backip all along to the point where he is also UFA after season, and Hamlin has another season to progress... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 minute ago, First Round Bust said: exaclty...free agent comp pick would aslo take the string out esp if we draft a replacement early rounds...Jacquan Johnson has been a backip all along to the point where he is also UFA after season, and Hamlin has another season to progress... It doesn’t look like Poyer is going to wait a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Diggs, done. Knox, Davis, and Oliver next. Bye, Edmunds and Poyer, and likely Hyde the year after. First of all, I would like to apologize to everybody here. I bought a Poyer jersey last year. These things tend to happen when I buy a jersey. To the bolded. I think Poyer and Hyde cover a lot of deficiencies for in our front 7. I get they are getting old, but I thought they both had another contract in them for sure. The Bills have not hit their front 7 picks out of the park by any means. Moving on from Poyer and Hyde could cause some issues. Unpopular opinion, but the Diggs contract gets me worried about this stuff. Josh Allen's feelings aside, I am not sure having the highest paid WR/QB tandem in the NFL is a long term recipe for success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 To be fair to Poyer he did sign a 2 year extension 2 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Trade Poyer and 25 to Philadelphia for 15? Are you including next year's first round pick too? Poyer is nowhere near enough to move you up 10 spots in round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: My order of importance of those 3 as of right now, is Knox, Poyer, Edmunds. Definitely agree w that assessment buffboyinATL. Lets hope Edmunds gets moved on draft day. 30 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: My order of importance of those 3 as of right now, is Knox, Poyer, Edmunds. Definitely agree w that assessment buffboyinATL. Lets hope Edmunds gets moved on draft day. 30 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: My order of importance of those 3 as of right now, is Knox, Poyer, Edmunds. Definitely agree w that assessment buffboyinATL. Lets hope Edmunds gets moved on draft day. 30 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: My order of importance of those 3 as of right now, is Knox, Poyer, Edmunds. Definitely agree w that assessment buffboyinATL. Lets hope Edmunds gets moved on draft day. 30 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: My order of importance of those 3 as of right now, is Knox, Poyer, Edmunds. Definitely agree w that assessment buffboyinATL. Lets hope Edmunds gets moved on draft day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, Heitz said: Fans clearly learned nothing from the last time they speculated on a tweet... 🤣 You’ve met many of us. We are slow learners! 🤷♂️ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Definitely agree w that assessment buffboyinATL. Lets hope Edmunds gets moved on draft day. Only if we have a viable replacement in mind. Otherwise, it is all hands on deck for our Super Bowl run. Trading Edmunds was more attractive to me when Bobby Wagner was available. Edited April 7, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Motor26 said: Poyer probably didn’t hit her with a prenup. If he's not happy in Buffalo I'm pretty sure slot of it is because of the Mrs being so demanding. Hope it doesn't cause him to relapse from his sobriety. If he is truly underpaid then let him seek a trade that he likes and with tangible assets traded to Bills to move on to next man up. It's not like the defense has played stellar in the playoffs and is why we went further than Josh could carry them. He'll get paid what he's worth to Bills and if he needs more he'll have to get it elsewhere. I like Poyer and will like him as a Bill or as an ex-Bill and hope he does well except against the Bills if that happens. Can't say I'll miss hearing about Rachel's Twitter rants if he gets traded. Pretty sad that she almost tips the scales for trading poyer to be well worth it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Mango said: First of all, I would like to apologize to everybody here. I bought a Poyer jersey last year. These things tend to happen when I buy a jersey. To the bolded. I think Poyer and Hyde cover a lot of deficiencies for in our front 7. I get they are getting old, but I thought they both had another contract in them for sure. The Bills have not hit their front 7 picks out of the park by any means. Moving on from Poyer and Hyde could cause some issues. Unpopular opinion, but the Diggs contract gets me worried about this stuff. Josh Allen's feelings aside, I am not sure having the highest paid WR/QB tandem in the NFL is a long term recipe for success. They won’t be paying the OL or RB much over the next 3 years. It all balances out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: exaclty...free agent comp pick would aslo take the string out esp if we draft a replacement early rounds...Jacquan Johnson has been a backip all along to the point where he is also UFA after season, and Hamlin has another season to progress... Beane doesn’t believe in comp picks...we either need to trade guys before their contract is up, or we’re likely not gonna get anything in return, unfortunately.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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