Milanos Milano Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 @Solomon Grundy Starting to get excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: @Solomon Grundy Starting to get excited! Daniel Jeremiah final mock draft is on at 8:00. Wanna see if he still stands by his pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Magox said: Very interesting perspective from Albright, essentially making the case that choosing a first round RB is not as bad of a move as once thought of. Saying that you can pick up the fifth year option, franchise him after and you can have 6 good years which is their typical shelf life with a relatively low cost. It’s all part of the new analytics way of thinking about it. Agree with this totally. No it’s not guaranteed your Rb will be a game breaker but it super cost-effective and you get that RB’s beat years. Get arguably the best player at their position in the draft. Then grab a CB. Then OL followed by TE, LB etc. The kid would be a huge upgrade and give us an instant weapon. He has a high ceiling, is already a proven workhorse who can play every down, is big and has breakaway speed. I’d have no problem with him as a late first round pick. Would make us all that much more dangerous. I won’t be upset if we don’t grab him and go with a different positional choice, but I’m in the camp that’s more than fine with this move. I’m waiting to see a threat in our backfield to give us more options. Edited April 28, 2022 by Aurelius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr. Who said: Oh, well, I am Dawgs fan, love Davis, but that is not good asset management, imo. I would trade up for Jameson Williams, Sause or Stingley. DT you really shouldn't. I knew there was something I liked about you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 32 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: While you are out it you should.ishould.include not picking Hall at 25. Talk about bad asset management. Hes going to be available past pick 35 maybe into the 50s. That is pure speculation and conjecture. You take your opinion and present it as fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 32 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: 6 years is the shelf life of a great RB? That sounds like the shelf life of an average RB at best. Why pick an average RB in the first round? And why pick a player in the first round that you've predetermined you won't sign to a 2nd deal? Ummm...because you have an All World QB that you have to pay therefore not having to worry about that money to pay the RB that may be great? Don't forget the money being shelled out to your All Pro WR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Magox said: Very interesting perspective from Albright, essentially making the case that choosing a first round RB is not as bad of a move as once thought of. Saying that you can pick up the fifth year option, franchise him after and you can have 6 good years which is their typical shelf life with a relatively low cost. It’s all part of the new analytics way of thinking about it. Only teams like us, can afford to do this. Of course we better figure out CB. Hall definitely fills a need. If he's what we think he can be he immediately makes this O better. If you don't find one in RD 3-5 we go into the season with a very much Super Bowl sounding duo of Devin Singletary and Duke Johnson. It's just ridiculous to me that picking an RB especially if he turns out to be great is something you don't do. At pick 25. The first RB. Who used to go in the top 10. For the record I'm really warming up to and leading to Skyy Moore. I'll see how I feel tomorrow lol Edited April 28, 2022 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I’ll be shocked if Beane takes a RB in the 1st round. I’m fine with a RB from pick 33 on, but it makes zero economic sense to take a RB in the 1st round unless the guy is seriously special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Ben Allbright mocked him to us Daniel Jeremiah has him in Final mock tonight as well 14 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: I’ll be shocked if Beane takes a RB in the 1st round. I’m fine with a RB from pick 33 on, but it makes zero economic sense to take a RB in the 1st round unless the guy is seriously special. If they take him there, they think he is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Well, there it is. Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks both say Hall @ 25. I still wish we'd trade back a little and still get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Buck Brooks, Charles Davis, Daniel Jeremiah ALL mock Breece Hall to Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Alright, I’ve been converted. I’m on board with Hall at 25 if Bean goes that way. We need to make teams pay if they drop everyone back covering our receivers. He looks capable of doing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Breece Hall is good. I think we can get a very good RB in the 2nd, but not guaranteed. I can say that about CB and WR also. 3 minutes ago, gobills404 said: This is why people don’t want RB, but as I’ve said all along. At pick 25 if you get a workhorse then it’s worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: That is pure speculation and conjecture. You take your opinion and present it as fact I doubt people on here interpret what I say as fact. I've been wrong plenty of times here. Edited April 28, 2022 by newcam2012 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Why has everyone broke the Beane draft code this year. No one has ever known who the Bills would take since Beane’s arrival. Why start now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Paul Costa said: Why has everyone broke the Beane draft code this year. No one has ever known who the Bills would take since Beane’s arrival. Why start now? The last 3 years the experts have been saying RB for the Bills early, 1st or 2nd round. So far they’re 0-2, but this will be the big test. Hall will be there with our 1st pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 36 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Ummm...because you have an All World QB that you have to pay therefore not having to worry about that money to pay the RB that may be great? Don't forget the money being shelled out to your All Pro WR Just think about that. You're already determining that you're moving on from this player at 6 years if not sooner, but you're spending your 1st round pick on them. That doesn't seem like the way to build a sustained contender. Or another hypothetical: say the Bills pick Breece Hall or whoever, win a Super Bowl, and Breece Hall is so good that they're like "we probably wouldn't have won the SB without Breece Hall." You really think they're not going to pay the man? Or He's not going to be holding out for what he's worth? And before you say "well then we'll just trade him for a bunch of picks." You really think someone else is going to trade a 1st round pick for a RB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: Why has everyone broke the Beane draft code this year. No one has ever known who the Bills would take since Beane’s arrival. Why start now? A lot of people knew we were taking Allen. It was no secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, gobills404 said: This isn’t a big deal to me. I think the Bills would be just fine to use him up for 4 years on a rookie deal and let him walk for a big payday. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: This isn’t a big deal to me. I think the Bills would be just fine to use him up for 4 years on a rookie deal and let him walk for a big payday. Also, it’s 4 years from now. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: This isn’t a big deal to me. I think the Bills would be just fine to use him up for 4 years on a rookie deal and let him walk for a big payday. AMEN! Use a late 1st rounder on the dude. Drive it like ya stole it for 4 years. Win titles…. Let him walk. I personally think people wayyyy overrated these late 1st rounders. It’s as if they’re expecting a 10 year all pro. It’s the 25th pick for cripes sake. Take him, beat the freaking brakes off him. Win… move on. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Also, it’s 4 years from now. Lol. Yeah - I get it, but it’s not a big factor. Beane isn’t all that conventional, he likes to take big swings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This isn’t a big deal to me. I think the Bills would be just fine to use him up for 4 years on a rookie deal and let him walk for a big payday. Then trade down to 33 for pennies on the dollar. Nobody from picks 26 to 32 is taking a RB and nobody’s trading back into the 1st round for a RB. You save tons of money and maybe pick up a 3rd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: A lot of people knew we were taking Allen. It was no secret. I think that is just becuase everyone knew Baker was goin to the Browns and that the Jets were gonna take Darnold. So it was 50-50. I know a few people guessed Rousseau. Its just crazy that they would telegraph this move in this way. Its weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 hours ago, muppy said: hey ScottLaw . My point is a dynamic offensive weapon to add to the Josh Allen offensive quiver would never be a bad idea imo It seems you and I will need to agree to disagree Oh he agrees 💯 He’s been banging the table for offense offense and more offense all offseason. Now that people are talking about running back, the only thing that matters is positional value value value. But if we took a DE 25 he’d lose his mind. Cornerback has better positional value than rb….so he’s in a pickle on that one. Based on the process of elimination scott would only be happy with a WR or an OT Just now, ScottLaw said: Rather they have that option for a premier position though…. On defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I would be good with Gordon, Lloyd, or Hall at 25...I think there’s a good chance we take one of them...👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think that is just becuase everyone knew Baker was goin to the Browns and that the Jets were gonna take Darnold. So it was 50-50. I know a few people guessed Rousseau. Its just crazy that they would telegraph this move in this way. Its weird. What I want to know is, how do people like Simms and others know we are in love with Breece Hall. They must have a source, they generally don’t say things like this unless it’s true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, NewEra said: Oh he agrees 💯 He’s been banging the table for offense offense and more offense all offseason. Now that people are talking about running back, the only thing that matters is positional value value value. But if we took a DE 25 he’d lose his mind. Cornerback has better positional value than rb….so he’s in a pickle on that one. Based on the process of elimination scott would only be happy with a WR or an OT 24 more hours! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: 24 more hours! Til we take a WR and he’s still mad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think that is just becuase everyone knew Baker was goin to the Browns and that the Jets were gonna take Darnold. So it was 50-50. I know a few people guessed Rousseau. Its just crazy that they would telegraph this move in this way. Its weird. I’m fairly certain that Albright dude, before the draft, was reporting that beane had been putting out feelers for even as high as picks 1 and 2 and it was for Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: What I want to know is, how do people like Simms and others know we are in love with Breece Hall. They must have a source, they generally don’t say things like this unless it’s true. Yeah i agree in some ways. Lots of smoke there, but rumors like these come out all the time. Like the rumors about the 49ers being obsessed with Mac Jones last year, or that Matt Barkley was guaranteed to be a top ten pick and the Bills were infatuated with him. Or the much loved Ben Albright reporting that the Browns are 100% going to take Sam Darnold. The Hall stuff could be something or it could be complete BS. It’s 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Finally watched some highlights of this guy. The next video that came on was highlights of Walker Jr. Walker looked more impressive to me 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: I’m fairly certain that Albright dude, before the draft, was reporting that beane had been putting out feelers for even as high as picks 1 and 2 and it was for Allen. Albright also reported the Browns were taking Darnold. He’s been wrong and right, just like every reporter. Dude isn’t God’s gift to draft secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Just think about that. You're already determining that you're moving on from this player at 6 years if not sooner, but you're spending your 1st round pick on them. That doesn't seem like the way to build a sustained contender. Or another hypothetical: say the Bills pick Breece Hall or whoever, win a Super Bowl, and Breece Hall is so good that they're like "we probably wouldn't have won the SB without Breece Hall." You really think they're not going to pay the man? Or He's not going to be holding out for what he's worth? And before you say "well then we'll just trade him for a bunch of picks." You really think someone else is going to trade a 1st round pick for a RB? You have the guy's rights for 5+ years. Holdout if he wants to. How can he make a living without playing football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Til we take a WR and he’s still mad? Jahan Dotson! 👍 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: You have the guy's rights for 5+ years. Holdout if he wants to. How can he make a living without playing football? Okay, so now the player you spent a 1st on is not even playing even though he's fit as a fiddle. It's not a smart move no matter how you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Would they be making this pick if McKissic hadn’t changed his mind? If not what does that tell you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, 716er said: Finally watched some highlights of this guy. The next video that came on was highlights of Walker Jr. Walker looked more impressive to me As a pure RB, he is. But Breece Hall is basically another receiving weapon for the Bills high powered pass game, who can also run. That's the difference, I think. I'd rather just draft that pure RB in a later round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, LeGOATski said: As a pure RB, he is. But Breece Hall is basically another receiving weapon for the Bills high powered pass game, who can also run. That's the difference, I think. Thats JD McKissic. You can find these guys cheap in free agency. DONT DO IT BEANE 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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