MAJBobby Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I looked up void years because I was curios if that meant they had anything to work with if he does work out, and I guess that's how they're designed. But that is weird because it is still tampering up until the negotiation window. So this is the first time ever I have seen a contract written about this way that doesn’t have a Void Year attached to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: But that is weird because it is still tampering up until the negotiation window. So this is the first time ever I have seen a contract written about this way that doesn’t have a Void Year attached to it. I thought there was a void year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I thought there was a void year? Not according to SPOTRAC. Or this write up. Total CAP hit is 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Not according to SPOTRAC. Or this write up. Total CAP hit is 2022. 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Edited March 18, 2022 by Warcodered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) Yeah reports seem to be contradictory. My money is on Joe being right though. Edited March 18, 2022 by No_Matter_What Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Then the National guys are wrong. thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 This is a steal wish they had signed him for two years rather then one. Before his injury last year he was starting to become Tom Brady’s favorite target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: This is a steal wish they had signed him for two years rather then one. Before his injury last year he was starting to become Tom Brady’s favorite target. He played 17 games and had 14 catches and 135 yards on the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said: He played 17 games and had 14 catches and 135 yards on the season? Okay this is better everyone Buffalo is signing sucks and should have trade for Watson and matched every offer the jags made in free agency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said: He played 17 games and had 14 catches and 135 yards on the season? He was coming off an achilles injury that ended his 2020 season. I don't think he was fully recovered from the injury last year, not to mention Brady's primary targets were Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Brown, and Leonard Fournette out of the backfield. If he is fully healthy, he certainly has the potential to really add to the passing game as a TE2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 59 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: Okay this is better everyone Buffalo is signing sucks and should have trade for Watson and matched every offer the jags made in free agency. Please don’t make things up I did not say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 38 minutes ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said: Please don’t make things up I did not say. Okay what did you say? I am under the assumption that you don’t like the Oj Howard signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: He was coming off an achilles injury that ended his 2020 season. I don't think he was fully recovered from the injury last year, not to mention Brady's primary targets were Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Brown, and Leonard Fournette out of the backfield. If he is fully healthy, he certainly has the potential to really add to the passing game as a TE2 The entire signing is based on risk vs. reward. It's only a 1 year deal and so the overall risk is kind of minimal, but the hope is that we will find a way to get more out of him than has happened in the past. You'd have to say his career is a disappointment to date; he represents unrealized potential. We're taking a 1 year gamble that we can unlock that potential, as he has immense natural athletic talent. Seems like a good enough plan to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 this is a good pickup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: this is a good pickup Yes before he got hurt the year Tampa won the super bowl many in the media were saying Brady was targeting Howard more than gronk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: Okay what did you say? I am under the assumption that you don’t like the Oj Howard signing. “assumption”. Someone said he was Brady’s favorite target last year. I responded to that. Go back and look at what I responded to. I don’t agree he was becoming Brady’s favorite target. I love the signing and with his skill set of the bills can help him develop into what he is caboabel of this will work out great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCBills Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Like the signing. Definitely needed a viable TE2. Tons of potential with Knox & Howard. Only dislike I have is that our hope is we unlock his potential… and then he leaves after a year because no way we’d be able to afford him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I love this signing......we get a good TE on the cheap. Hopefully, OJ can contribute to our O and be the baller that he shoulda been coming outta college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 2:37 PM, GunnerBill said: I just don't know how anyone can be sure that Ryan Bates is the answer to anything. He played reasonably well down the stretch, but 6 games is too small of a sample size to go bigger that the Bills did on the tender. Now if you want to argue that they should I have done more at guard in free agency I am right there with you. A meh 34 year old who struggles in pass pro wasn't what I was hoping for. That said, I like OJ Howard as a low risk pickup. Well I can tell you I would rather see Bates than Ford as a starting OG blocking for JA. I can tell you he was a starting OG in one of the most explosive offenses I've witnessed in 35 years of watching NFL football. Watch Singletary's performance versus the Pats playoff game against a solid defense. Singletary's first TD was between G/T, and it was Bates who stacked his man up. On the second Singletary TD, McKenzie was in motion to block, and Bates pulled from LG to the point of attack. It was a classic Alabama pulling play. It was Bates who executed the pull play and helped free Singletary for a @20 yd TD run. Those pulling plays were not executed or even tried with Feliciano/Boettger/Ford. I think we agree IOL has been sorely overlooked in this $170 million dollar FA shopping spree. If anything, after Von Miller I am looking for OL/ CB help the most. Both of those positions were once again neglected for help on the DL. I hope Buffalo has enough OL to keep JA healthy, and our backs running. Even with Bates I would want more OL investment. If he does leave it looks bad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, RocCityRoller said: Well I can tell you I would rather see Bates than Ford as a starting OG blocking for JA. I can tell you he was a starting OG in one of the most explosive offenses I've witnessed in 35 years of watching NFL football. Watch Singletary's performance versus the Pats playoff game against a solid defense. Singletary's first TD was between G/T, and it was Bates who stacked his man up. On the second Singletary TD, McKenzie was in motion to block, and Bates pulled from LG to the point of attack. It was a classic Alabama pulling play. It was Bates who executed the pull play and helped free Singletary for a @20 yd TD run. Those pulling plays were not executed or even tried with Feliciano/Boettger/Ford. I think we agree IOL has been sorely overlooked in this $170 million dollar FA shopping spree. If anything, after Von Miller I am looking for OL/ CB help the most. Both of those positions were once again neglected for help on the DL. I hope Buffalo has enough OL to keep JA healthy, and our backs running. Even with Bates I would want more OL investment. If he does leave it looks bad. I hear that but I think the Colts game really gave them a huge reality check. The Dline needed a pretty good makeover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I hear that but I think the Colts game really gave them a huge reality check. The Dline needed a pretty good makeover. it did, but because of prior DL FA misadventures and failures in the draft. IMO at some point that blind spot needs a different set of eyes or coaching to fix it. Spending so much FA money on DL and premium (1st an 2nd round) draft picks on the same unit, over and over again, may point to an organizational weakness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewEra Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Love love love this addition. Stay healthy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Clearly got some crazy in him. I like it lol 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, CNY315 said: Clearly got some crazy in him. I like it lol Somebody with Twitter tell him one tip is to never wear fish colored hats. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, CNY315 said: Clearly got some crazy in him. I like it lol You climb to the top of that mountain and yell "DRAGO!!!" or at least that's how I think it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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folz Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 9:37 PM, CNY315 said: Clearly got some crazy in him. I like it lol 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Love it! Looks like he's excited to be a Buffalo Bill. Hope he can resurrect his career here and fully reach his pre-draft potential...i.e. "be the best version of himself" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 7:08 PM, RocCityRoller said: It's not just a change of scenery. He has a busted Achilles. That doesn't change whether he is in TB, Buffalo, Berlin or Madrid. His best year prior to injury was on par with Clay in his best year here. You would honestly rather spend 3.5 million on Howard than putting in a poison pill contract with Bates ($3.9 million)?? Really? So at the end of the day.....Beane knew what he was doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Love this signing. Howard was more highly rated than Knox coming out of college and the difference between his QB in Miami & his QB in Buffalo is like night and day. He should flourish here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Rockinon said: Love this signing. Howard was more highly rated than Knox coming out of college and the difference between his QB in Miami & his QB in Buffalo is like night and day. He should flourish here. You mean his QB in Tampa Bay - Good old Brady himself - the master of the TE? I think the difference is Brady uses Gronk to the detriment of others - hopefully he can be healthy and play well here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rockinon said: Love this signing. Howard was more highly rated than Knox coming out of college and the difference between his QB in Miami & his QB in Buffalo is like night and day. He should flourish here. He didn't play in Miami He played in TB with Winston, Fitz and Brady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 OJ Howard really seems like a solid dude. Happy he is on the team and hope he has a break out season along Knox…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: You mean his QB in Tampa Bay - Good old Brady himself - the master of the TE? I think the difference is Brady uses Gronk to the detriment of others - hopefully he can be healthy and play well here. Oh yeah! Why was I thinking Miami. Still as soon as Gronk came in he, didn't get many opportunities....the kid was pushed aside. 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He didn't play in Miami He played in TB with Winston, Fitz and Brady Yep, brain fart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rockinon said: Oh yeah! Why was I thinking Miami. Still as soon as Gronk came in he, didn't get many opportunities....the kid was pushed aside. Yep, brain fart. He still has tons of talent He was one of my favorite prospects in his entire class... We struggled at tight end for years here We now have two kids who are better than anybody we've had in the last 20 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 18 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So at the end of the day.....Beane knew what he was doing Happy Bates is here. I still think signing Howard was a bad move. Torn Achilles.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 17 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: He still has tons of talent He was one of my favorite prospects in his entire class... We struggled at tight end for years here We now have two kids who are better than anybody we've had in the last 20 Great prospect, not a great player. Post torn Achilles and with his production we would be lucky to get Charles Clay out of OJ Howard He is a Bil now, so I hope he proves me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Great prospect, not a great player. Post torn Achilles and with his production we would be lucky to get Charles Clay out of OJ Howard He is a Bil now, so I hope he proves me wrong. He's an upgrade over Sweeney and that's what was needed. So I'll take it.... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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