Mock Drafts

[ndirish1978]

15 hours ago, SportsCoach said:

 

We are at pick 59... The top WRs went way earlier than projected, but Moore is likely the top available, Pierce is off, but Austin is still available. The board went heavy WR (influenced by the fact most of the season the Browns need for WRs)

 

With 69 and 89 I am gonna lean more towards BPA, but since someone who is a Bills fan would know a whole lot better than me which direction of position I should lean towards. I am going by the roster between ourlads, madden ratings etc and following Allen in college and the pros somewhat. 

 

 

I got Gordon and Hall plus got more draft picks in my mock! I am guessing Troy Anderson is the LB you want in the draft? 

 

He's raw, super athletic and we let Edmunds play out his 5th yr before offering him an extension so he may walk at the end of the season. Would be smart to get a big LB with movement skills and let him develop for a year.

[SportsCoach]

On 4/5/2022 at 10:30 PM, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Size isn't important. They're looking for an added element of speed and separation to our core for the replacement for the roster spot vacated by Emmanuel Sanders (Beasley already having been replaced by Jamison Crowder).

 

Calvin Austin III is faster than Skyy Moore (4.32 v. 4.41), but Moore is considered the higher valued prospect. Moore should already be off the board by 69. If he isn't, Beane would probably be sprinting to the podium. It's also a very fair spot to take Austin (and many assume him to be gone as well).

 

If neither are still there (and assuming Christian Watson, Alec Pierce, and Khalil Shakir are also gone) - then I'd look at who's on the board at the Offensive Line and try to secure a Velus Jones, Bo Melton, Tyquan Thornton, or Danny Gray in the coming rounds. I'd probably double up as well if Thornton or Gray is available later.

 

Well since I had pick 69 and 89... I decided to go with OT Faalele of Minnesota. I went with the pure upside of a behemoth of a man... I still have 89 and 130, so I'll go likely WR and I am thinking TE with 130...  What do you think of him at 69? 

 

So far it's been RB Hall, CB Gordon, OT Faale and I got Shenault in another deal... with two more picks to go at 89 and 130. 

 

 

[ExWNYer]

Can't see any way it realistically falls this way but man what fun it would be...

 

[mrags]

Latest one. Post Diggs resigning, I’m assuming they will pick up a vet corner somewhere but even if they don’t I’ve got answers for that here. Because I had no belief that we would even be in the game for someone like Hamilton, I never really looked into him. But now that Diggs is signed to a crap ton of moolah, and Poyer is on his final year of his contract. I think we may be looking to trade up for some elite talent. Maybe it’s not Poyers replacement, but maybe it is. Maybe they just think they can go with a 3S type of defense. Hamilton is a specimen and can play multiple roles because of his size, speed, length, etc. so maybe we see a real change in defensive schemes in the coming year(s) because of big physical TEs, and fast WRs. Just a thought. I love this draft. Had to give up 25, and next years 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to move up to 9. But I don’t regret it at all. 
 

9. Kyle Hamilton, S Notre Dame

 

57. Christian Watson, WR North Dakota State

 

89. James Cook, RB Georgia

 

138. Cameron Jurgens, OC Nebraska

 

168. Marcus Jones, CB Houston

 

185. Kyle Philips, WR UCLA

 

203. Justin Shaffer, OG Georgia

 

208. Josh Jobe, CB Alabama

 

225. Jordan Stout, P Penn State

[Warriorspikes51]

I’m not opposed to trading Edmunds +++ for Hamilton, have him add a few pounds to be your MLB and still allow for exotic looks lining him up all over the field

[DasNootz]

5 CBs were gone by pick 25 so I went BPA

25. Chris Olave WR, Ohio State

57. Breece Hall RB, Iowa State

89. Cam Taylor-Britt CB, Nebraska

130. Zyon McCollum CB, Sam Houston State

168. Thayer Munford IOL, Ohio State

185. Matt Araiza P, San Diego State

203. Verone McKinley III S, Oregon

231. Buffalo Bills Jack Snyder IOL, San Jose State

[FlaFitz1]

Top CBs and WRs were gone so I traded out of 25 for the 30th and 3rd next year.

 

Then I traded the 30th and 94th for the 32nd and 66th with the Lions.

 

Once again not real happy with who was there and happy with the Jets offer of the 35th and a 2nd next year for the 32nd and 89th.

 

My draft ended up

35th Breece Hall RB Iowa State

57th Tariq Woolen CB UTSA

66th Christian Watson WR North Dakota State

130th Troy Anderson LB Montana State

168th Otito Ogbonnia DT UCLA

185th Max Mitchell OT Louisiana

203 Jalen Wydermyer TE Texas A&M

231 Derion Kendrick CB Georgia

 

 

Side note - if not for off the field issues and a slow 40 time IMO Kendrick would be considered a top 5 CB in this draft.

 

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

Peter Schrager mocked Quay Walker to the Bills at #25 and said that his mock is based on what he is hearing from teams around the league, not who he thinks teams should take.  That is the first I heard of us taking LB in the first round.  I believe the only way we do this is if we have a trade partner for Edmunds.  He also make the statement that he "guarantees" that Jameson Williams does not go any later than pick #15. He said many teams are very high on him.

 

I assume most would be ok with Walker if we are able to trade Edmunds?

 

Edited April 7, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL

[dbfla10]

3 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

He said that his mock is based on what he is hearing from teams around the league, not who he thinks there team should take.  That is the first I heard of us taking LB in the first round.  I believe the only way we do this is if we have a trade partner for Edmunds.  He also make the statement that he "guarantees" that Jameson Williams does not go any later than pick #15. He said many teams are very high on him.

 

I assume most would be ok with Walker if we are able to trade Edmunds?

Not trading edmunds as I believe he accounts for a $14mil dead cap.... Im all for a LB round 1 and let Edmunds walk at the end of the year

[Logic]

I think a lot of Bills fans will be surprised by who the team selects with premium picks this year.

While fans tend to only think of this season, GMs often draft with the future in mind. With Josh's cap hit ballooning to $39M next year and key players like Knox and Oliver needing new deals soon, something's gotta give.

That said, we all know that there's a chance Edmunds and/or Poyer may not be back in 2023. It's entirely within the realm of possibility that the team spends 1st and/or 2nd round picks on a linebacker and/or safety.

This is ESPECIALLY true if they sign a viable starting level corner before the draft, which seems likely.

Don't be shocked if night two comes and goes and two of the Bills' three draft picks look more likely to start in 2023 than 2022.

As for Quay Walker...he seems like a perfect Edmunds replacement.

 

[Big Turk]

6 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

He said that his mock is based on what he is hearing from teams around the league, not who he thinks there team should take.  That is the first I heard of us taking LB in the first round.  I believe the only way we do this is if we have a trade partner for Edmunds.  He also make the statement that he "guarantees" that Jameson Williams does not go any later than pick #15. He said many teams are very high on him.

 

I assume most would be ok with Walker if we are able to trade Edmunds?

 

On three different draft profile sites he is listed as a 3rd round prospect and is projected to be a WILL LB which is where Milano plays now.

 

This would make little to no sense for the Bills at pick 25, a team that is trying to win now.

Edited April 7, 2022 by Big Turk

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

This is probably my least favorite mock draft yet. Quay Walker is not a 1st round talent and linebacker is only a dire need if we trade Edmunds. Trading a guy for a 3rd round pick to replace him with a 1st round pick makes little sense considering we have other holes to fill.

 

We can't enter training camp with Dane Jackson and Cam Lewis as our starting cb's. Tre could be ready for the start of the season, but we can't afford to be thin at the most important position on defense.

[Magnum Force]

I still like the idea of Troy Andersen in Round 2.  I would take him over Walker for his upside, speed and versatility if both were available. 

[thenorthremembers]

6 minutes ago, dbfla10 said:

Not trading edmunds as I believe he accounts for a $14mil dead cap.... Im all for a LB round 1 and let Edmunds walk at the end of the year

In a trade Edmunds has no dead cap.   The 12.7 million dead cap is only on a release.

[AuntieEm]

3 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

This is probably my least favorite mock draft yet. Quay Walker is not a 1st round talent and linebacker is only a dire need if we trade Edmunds. Trading a guy for a 3rd round pick to replace him with a 1st round pick makes little sense considering we have other holes to fill.

 

We can't enter training camp with Dane Jackson and Cam Lewis as our starting cb's. Tre could be ready for the start of the season, but we can't afford to be thin at the most important position on defense.

   

   Even if Tre is ready he might not be 100 off the bat and may try to do too much and cause a setback.  Rather be able to let him work his way back fully at a steady pace peaking in the SB would be quite excellent timing wise.

[NewEra]

I’d be ill 

[Mr. WEO]

Porquay......?

[JoeF]

One trade back in the second to pick up an extra third. 

 

Fanspeak using the NBS Central Draft Board

 

All 3 DB's run 4.44 or better.  We have a need for speed with Waddle and Hill on the same team in the division.

 

25: R1 P25 CB Andrew Boothe - Clemson

64: R2 P32 RB Breece Hall - Iowa State

75: R3 P11 LB Quay Walker - Georgia

89: R3 P25 WR Khalil Shakir - Boise State

130: R4 P25 P Matt Araiza - SDSU

168: R5 P25 OT Thayer Munford - Ohio State

185: R6 P6 CB Jayln Armour-Davis - Alabama

203: R6 P24 S J.T. Woods - Baylor

231: R7 P10 WR Danny Gray - SMU

Edited April 7, 2022 by JoeF

[Logic]

27 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

On three different draft profile sites he is listed as a 3rd round prospect and is projected to be a WILL LB which is where Milano plays now.

 

This would make little to no sense for the Bills at pick 25, a team that is trying to win now.

Personally, I think this is an instance where the amateur mock draft public is out of step with NFL scouts on a prospect, which happens a lot.

I have read in a few places that some NFL teams view Walker as a better NFL prospect than his teammate Nakobe Dean, who is a near-consensus 1st rounder. This makes sense to me because Walker is bigger, quicker, and more athletic than Dean. He profiles as a better fit in the 2022 NFL than the more old school Dean, who looks like he would have been a star in the 2001 NFL.

Dane Brugler's "The Beast" draft guide came out today. I respect his work every year, and I respect his rankings. He has Quay Walker listed as a late 1st/early 2nd round prospect, which is right where the Bills are drafting.

[BADOLBILZ]

29 minutes ago, Logic said:

I think a lot of Bills fans will be surprised by who the team selects with premium picks this year.

While fans tend to only think of this season, GMs often draft with the future in mind. With Josh's cap hit ballooning to $39M next year and key players like Knox and Oliver needing new deals soon, something's gotta give.

That said, we all know that there's a chance Edmunds and/or Poyer may not be back in 2023. It's entirely within the realm of possibility that the team spends 1st and/or 2nd round picks on a linebacker and/or safety.

This is ESPECIALLY true if they sign a viable starting level corner before the draft, which seems likely.

Don't be shocked if night two comes and goes and two of the Bills' three draft picks look more likely to start in 2023 than 2022.

As for Quay Walker...he seems like a perfect Edmunds replacement.

 

 

 

I don't think they will use their first round pick on a player to specifically replace any of their pending UFA's or cuts in 2023.

 

That's not how they have operated.

 

That is how the 90's Bills would have done it though..........it was literally how they did it..........and what happened was they eventually went broke making those small profits.    

 

A lot of defensive backs....in an era when they weren't as impactful........and high floor/low ceiling/easy evaluations that didn't have the potential to possibly replace any of the Bills aging stars.

 

Now in the second round.........anything goes with Beane.........I am FULLY expecting him to go LB to replace Edmunds in 2023 there..........probably Troy Anderson if he is still on the board.  

 

Beane has had 4 years of his own second round picks and the results have not been pretty........a lousy guard and 2 DE's that have averaged just a sack every 10 regular season Bills games(5 in 49 opportunities).   They could have scarcely gotten less production to this point.    

 

The most productive use of his own second rounder by Beane was the one he traded to move up to get Allen.

 

My confidence in him in round 2 is low.........I think he fixates and celebrates in round 1 and then loses sight of the BPA objective in round 2 and swings at needs.    This is a common problem in business in bid scenarios........the euphoria of getting what you were most focused on then followed by a series of less than ideal decisions.   It takes a good deal of discipline and cool to keep your head.  Whaley had the same issue.......as have a number of Bills GM's.......it's why the second round has been quicksand for the Bills in their history.    

 

[ScorpionZero]

This is the double dip draft.

 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

How about WR George Pickens as a darkhorse target for us if we moved up from 57 in the 2nd

Edited April 7, 2022 by Warriorspikes51

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

The issue I have with all these mocks both by posters here and the "professionals" is it's one person, or one computer doing the picking based on their view of the order the picks should go in. Would like to see 32 of these guys get together and start picking.  Then let see then if any ones board comes close to the order they are actually picked in.  I've seen a few mocks done by maybe 2 or 3 people together, but never more than that.

 

There's a couple of threads about the Bills moving up to some spot to pick someone, again based on one persons mock that the player would even still be available at that spot. 

[ScorpionZero]

25: R1 P25 CB Kaiir Elam - Florida

57: R2 P25 LB Troy Andersen - Montana State

89: R3 P25 WR Alec Pierce - Cincinnati

130: R4 P25 RB Hassan Haskins - Michigan

168: R5 P25 G Cade Mays - Tennessee

185: R6 P6 CB Jaylen Watson - Washington State

203: R6 P24 G Andrew-Stueber - Michigan

231: R7 P10 WR Danny Gray - SMU

[ScorpionZero]

29.

Roger McCreary

CB Auburn

57.

Christian Watson

WR North Dakota State

89.

Troy Andersen

LB Montana State

103.

Wan'Dale Robinson

WR Kentucky

130.

Cade Mays

OG Tennessee

168.

Hassan Haskins

RB Michigan

185.

Bubba Bolden

S Miami-Fl

203.

Thayer Munford

OG Ohio State

231.

Jake Camarda

P Georgia

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Peter Schrager mocked Quay Walker to the Bills at #25 and said that his mock is based on what he is hearing from teams around the league, not who he thinks teams should take.  That is the first I heard of us taking LB in the first round.  I believe the only way we do this is if we have a trade partner for Edmunds.  He also make the statement that he "guarantees" that Jameson Williams does not go any later than pick #15. He said many teams are very high on him.

 

I assume most would be ok with Walker if we are able to trade Edmunds?

 

Walker’s weaknesses sounds like Edmunds problems 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/quay-walker/32005741-4c29-3485-e96f-d2f0f1223e1d

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

The issue I have with all these mocks both by posters here and the "professionals" is it's one person, or one computer doing the picking based on their view of the order the picks should go in. Would like to see 32 of these guys get together and start picking.  Then let see then if any ones board comes close to the order they are actually picked in.  I've seen a few mocks done by maybe 2 or 3 people together, but never more than that.

 

There's a couple of threads about the Bills moving up to some spot to pick someone, again based on one persons mock that the player would even still be available at that spot. 

Are you watching our mock draft?LOL.  We have a lot of people involved and our picks so far are NOT that good...😱. I like a lot of the ones in this thread better..😁

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Are you watching our mock draft?LOL.  We have a lot of people involved and our picks so far are NOT that good...😱. I like a lot of the ones in this thread better..😁

 

Where is "Our Mock Draft"  On TBD??  How many people are picking? Or are you referring to the different posts from different people all with their own mock?  To me that's just as useless as I'm sure very few have the first 24 picks all going the same.  So who knows who'd really be there available at #25?

[Vickveto]

25  WR.  Christian Watson 

32    S.    Lewis Chine

34   RB.  Breece Hall 

41  CB.  Tariq Woolen 

57  LB.  Troy Anderson  

89 WR.  Tyqaun Thornton

203 P. Matt Ariza 

 

 (2023 1st)(2024 1st)Tremaine  Edmunds

                              For
                Pick 32 and Pick 34

 

4th (130) 5th (168) 7th (231) (2023 2nd) A.J Epenesa 

                               For 

                             Pick 41

Edited April 7, 2022 by Vickveto

[ScorpionZero]

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Where is "Our Mock Draft"  On TBD??  How many people are picking? Or are you referring to the different posts from different people all with their own mock?  To me that's just as useless as I'm sure very few have the first 24 picks all going the same.  So who knows who'd really be there available at #25?

Yes. TBD mock draft. 😉

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

18 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Yes. TBD mock draft. 😉

 

OK, saw that thread a few times, saw a name in the post title (currently is set to Logic) now that I think about it yesterday think it was listed MajBobby.  I just always assumed this was Logic's mock draft and there was a thread yesterday with MajBobby's mock and so on.  Guess I never connected the dots so to speak. This does address the concerns I have with most mocks.  Now just need to get the folks at ESN, PFW, SI, etc. to all get together and do the same!

 

Thanks!

[OldTimer1960]

4 hours ago, Vickveto said:

25  WR.  Christian Watson 

32    S.    Lewis Chine

34   RB.  Breece Hall 

41  CB.  Tariq Woolen 

57  LB.  Troy Anderson  

89 WR.  Tyqaun Thornton

203 P. Matt Ariza 

 

 (2023 1st)(2024 1st)Tremaine  Edmunds

                              For
                Pick 32 and Pick 34

 

4th (130) 5th (168) 7th (231) (2023 2nd) A.J Epenesa 

                               For 

                             Pick 41

No thank you.  Don’t need to extend credit card debt for the next two years.  

It would be terrible to have Josh Allen, not win next year and get progressively worse because we mortgaged those draft choices to go “all in” this year.  

 

No matter how you slice it, you get to the playoffs and you are lucky to have a 60% chance to win each game against the playoff teams in the stacked AFC.  At best you get a first round bye and then have to win 3 straight against very good opponents.  At 60% win probability in each game, the chance to win SB is .6x.6x.6= 22% chance to win it all.  Now, factor in a major injury this year - do you want to go into ‘23 likely losing starting TE and starting MLB and not have first round picks for the next two years?  At that point, you might as well trade Allen for all that you can get, because you’ll have no cap space, lose major contributors and have no top draft picks.

 

I favor the long view - Allen is young and gives you a chance every year for the next 6-7 years if you put decent talent around him.

[ScorpionZero]

I know, I know but would you not take him if he was there.

 

25

Round: 1

Ahmad Gardner

CB | Cincinnati

57

Round: 2

Breece Hall

RB | Iowa State

89

Round: 3

Troy Andersen

LB | Montana State

130

Round: 4

Kyle Philips

WR | UCLA

168

Round: 5

Tyquan Thornton

WR | Baylor

185

Round: 6

Kalon Barnes

CB | Baylor

203

Round: 6

Andrew Stueber

OT | Michigan

231

Round: 7

Matt Araiza

P | San Diego State

[Vickveto]

31 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

No thank you.  Don’t need to extend credit card debt for the next two years.  

It would be terrible to have Josh Allen, not win next year and get progressively worse because we mortgaged those draft choices to go “all in” this year.  

 

No matter how you slice it, you get to the playoffs and you are lucky to have a 60% chance to win each game against the playoff teams in the stacked AFC.  At best you get a first round bye and then have to win 3 straight against very good opponents.  At 60% win probability in each game, the chance to win SB is .6x.6x.6= 22% chance to win it all.  Now, factor in a major injury this year - do you want to go into ‘23 likely losing starting TE and starting MLB and not have first round picks for the next two years?  At that point, you might as well trade Allen for all that you can get, because you’ll have no cap space, lose major contributors and have no top draft picks.

 

I favor the long view - Allen is young and gives you a chance every year for the next 6-7 years if you put decent talent around him.

Troy Anderson is going to play the middle linebacker position and we still have picks 3-7 next year you can very easily find a day one starting TE in round 3 or 4. We really wouldn’t have any holes next year Lewis chine would steps right in for Poyer and can he play hybrid nickel. I understand we haven’t built a dynasty in  the modern age yet but we can’t keep everybody.Teams  pay top dollar for winning players. It is what it is. Poyer Knox and Edmunds are probably gone Oliver too depending on price. We probably will be able to keep one of those. A.J Epenesa highest trade value is probably going to be now because he’s probably not going to get enough minutes. Between Edmonds and Epenesa the capspace  shed would balance out. Could still go get a veteran corner.

Edited April 8, 2022 by Vickveto

[OldTimer1960]

1 minute ago, Vickveto said:

Troy Anderson is going to play the middle linebacker position and we still have picks 3-7 next year you can very easily find a day one starting TE in round 3 or 4. We really wouldn’t have no holes next year Lewis chine would steps right in for Poyer and can he play hybrid nickel. I understand we haven’t built a dynasty in  the modern age yet but we can’t keep everybody.Teams  pay top dollar for winning players. It is what it is. Poyer Knox and Edmunds are probably gone Oliver too depending on price. We probably will be able to keep on of those. A.J Epenesa highest trade value is probably going to be now because he’s probably not going to get enough minutes. Between Edmonds and Epenesa the capspace  shed would balance out. Could still go get a veteran corner.

You might be right, but I’m not buying.  Allen gives this team a fighting chance every year for the next 7+ years.  I don’t want to throw that away for a low probability to win a SB this year.

[Vickveto]

7 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

You might be right, but I’m not buying.  Allen gives this team a fighting chance every year for the next 7+ years.  I don’t want to throw that away for a low probability to win a SB this year.

The Rams don’t have picks and we still definitely would have more picks than them. So I don’t really think it’s throwing anything away. I just moved up in the draft a lot and got better projected players because honestly any player fourth round or later might not even make the team that’s just how good we are. Not saying players in the later rounds can’t but it’s a lot less likely and we just don’t really have the time to develop anybody right now on the field.  If Lewis chine is the next Poyer Breece hall  is the McKissic Etienne back Mcbeane has bean trying to find everything is good. Regardless if we win a Super Bowl or not but I feel that this would put us in the best position in our best year to see do it but Josh Allen gives you a chance every year for the next 7+ 

[NewEra]

11 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

How about WR George Pickens as a darkhorse target for us if we moved up from 57 in the 2nd

I think he’ll be gone by pick 40, possibly rd 1

[GunnerBill]

14 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Walker’s weaknesses sounds like Edmunds problems 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/quay-walker/32005741-4c29-3485-e96f-d2f0f1223e1d

 

Walker is not a first round talent. No way. 

[No_Matter_What]

On 4/6/2022 at 5:55 AM, newcam2012 said:

It would be amazing if Hall drops to 89 and the Bills get him there. 

 

Yeah but half of the fans wouldn't be alive to witness it Some would broke their monitors after we passed on him at 57, and the rest would have heart attack after we passed on him at 80.