jkeerie Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I'm convinced both he and his agent are dunces. He's not doing anything to prove he's mentally capable of being a leader. I think I'd stay away from Oklahoma QBs. There appears to be a sense of entitlement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 As I said before. He will be playing MLB inside 2 years. Dude is not mentally strong enough to be a qb in NFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I'm convinced both he and his agent are dunces. He's not doing anything to prove he's mentally capable of being a leader. It’s not just leadership, Its also how he melted down at the end of this past season, followed up by extraordinary immaturity, how can a team want to reward that sort of performance? Me, if I’m a multi billionaire owner, I bench him for the duration of his contract, and then give every other player on the team a $100,000.00 bonus, saying it’s for showing great maturity during a stressful season, but that’s just me I guess, 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 The problem is, there are not a lot of QBs out there that will get you to the next level. I'm not sure Murray is, but he wants paid like he is. Unfortunately, there's not really anyone else who they can bring in and call it an upgrade. I'm so glad the Bills are removed from QB purgatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: As I said before. He will be playing MLB inside 2 years. Dude is not mentally strong enough to be a qb in NFL I was confused for a second why he would be playing Middle Line Backer and then my brain started working. Edited April 15, 2022 by The Wiz 2 1 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I was confused for a second why he would be playing Middle Line Backer and then my brain started working. I was going to say he's too short for that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: He will be playing MLB inside 2 years. FOR US?!?! REPLACING TREMAINE?!?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 38 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I think I'd stay away from Oklahoma QBs. There appears to be a sense of entitlement. Feel bad for Baker, he was disrespected! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Kyler Murray single handedly defeated the Buffalo Bills two years ago with :05 seconds left in a regular season game. He deserves a monster contract. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: Kyler Murray single handedly defeated the Buffalo Bills two years ago with :05 seconds left in a regular season game. He deserves a monster contract. He looked so bad in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 52 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Feel bad for Baker, he was disrespected! I agree Cleveland has been unfair to him, but he's not doing himself any favors by talking the way he's talking. He's not coming across as anything but a "me" guy. Not someone you want to lead your team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I agree Cleveland has been unfair to him, but he's not doing himself any favors by talking the way he's talking. He's not coming across as anything but a "me" guy. Not someone you want to lead your team. All you hear today in all sports, players are disrespected! Poor babies!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: All you hear today in all sports, players are disrespected! Poor babies!! They should try a little humility. Works wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) My thing is, if he were confident in his abilities, contract wise, he'd buy himself more $$ by going out and balling this year. So this strong arm attempt just tells me it's an exit scam. He doesn't seem to like football, his baseball thing is no secret, and he doesn't believe in himself. He's not a leader. He's selfish. Throws people under the bus. If I'm a Cards fan I'd say thank GOD, bc even If he goes out and gives an average performance this year, he's still getting a healthy deal. It just tells me he wants out, and he's in a hurry to do it. Never liked his attitude. Hope ARZ sticks it to him and let's him sit. Anybody know, if he holds out is he contractually able to play baseball? Even if ARZ isnt paying him? Edited April 15, 2022 by BillsShredder83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: As I said before. He will be playing MLB inside 2 years. Dude is not mentally strong enough to be a qb in NFL Nah. It takes a lot more repetition and skill to play major league baseball than it does to play in the NFL............there is little chance he could go back to baseball and get to the majors that quick. Look at all the foreigners who just start playing football and a year or two later they are playing big time NCAA football.........it's become commonplace.......that's not even a remote possibility in baseball. I really doubt Oakland would even give him that bonus money back after he's gotten his sh*t turnt inside out playing NFL football for a few season...........and his bonus is important because minor leaguers make like $15,000 per year in actual salary. And if he ever did make it to MLB then he would have to wait 6 years to reach free agency. And since MLB has a MUCH stricter PED policy........most players careers are ending in their early 30's..........which is about where he would be going into free agency in like 2030. Kyler Murray going back to baseball is a pretty absurd notion, IMO. Edited April 15, 2022 by BADOLBILZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Get your money when you can. He has ALL the leverage. You’re one freak injury away from living in a van down by the river the rest of your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Wonder if the Dolphins go after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I'm convinced both he and his agent are dunces. He's not doing anything to prove he's mentally capable of being a leader. Probably why his team imploded down the stretch during the regular season and looked like one of the worst teams in football in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) If his 5th year option is exercised for the 2023 season he would make $29.7M and set for life and then go play Baseball. No way he makes that kind of money or the contract he wants out of football. Murray hit . 296 with 10 home runs, 47 RBIs and stole 10 bases in 2018 at Oklahoma, playing center field. The A's selected him No. 9 overall in the 2018 MLB draft. Edited April 15, 2022 by ALF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 8 hours ago, TBBills said: Wonder if the Dolphins go after him. The Dolphins are set. I read that Brady is going there. Maybe the Patriots? 5hen if the Jets could swing a move for Rodgers we’d be set. 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 8 hours ago, ALF said: If his 5th year option is exercised for the 2023 season he would make $29.7M and set for life and then go play Baseball. No way he makes that kind of money or the contract he wants out of football. Murray hit . 296 with 10 home runs, 47 RBIs and stole 10 bases in 2018 at Oklahoma, playing center field. The A's selected him No. 9 overall in the 2018 MLB draft. I think Murray has proven himself to be a "diva" QB. He also loves to throw other people under the bus while deflecting blame from himself. I noticed it two years ago watching him in a couple of post game interviews. You also have the report that came out from Larry Fitzgerald's father. There is too much "smoke" around this little hobbit for there to not be fire. Greed and arrogance (the arrogance of placing yourself on a higher pedestal that you actually are) are terrible things. He seems as if he may be ate up with both of them. He's already going to make more $$$ than he likely would have in a baseball career and he's really done nothing outside of the "Hail Murray" to place himself in the upper echelon QB conversation. Is he a top 15 starting QB? Sure, but the Cardinals have the right to wait on giving him $100M+ guaranteed to see how he does this year, and maybe even into his 5th year option. If he chooses not to play, that just proves the reason why they waited. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 11 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Get your money when you can. He has ALL the leverage. You’re one freak injury away from living in a van down by the river the rest of your life. Uncle Rico is doing just fine, I will have you know...🤨 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 11:46 PM, Doc said: Who's trading for him and his $40M/year demands? I'd punk his a$$. Tell him, were trading you straight up for Baker Mayfield and send him to the Browns. At least Baker wants to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 16 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Kyler Murray single handedly defeated the Buffalo Bills two years ago with :05 seconds left in a regular season game. He deserves a monster contract. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 3 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said: I'd punk his a$$. Tell him, were trading you straight up for Baker Mayfield and send him to the Browns. At least Baker wants to play. I would throw in a bag of footballs to send to Cleveland along with Mayfield. Just to really add insult to injury. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Nah. It takes a lot more repetition and skill to play major league baseball than it does to play in the NFL............there is little chance he could go back to baseball and get to the majors that quick. Look at all the foreigners who just start playing football and a year or two later they are playing big time NCAA football.........it's become commonplace.......that's not even a remote possibility in baseball. I really doubt Oakland would even give him that bonus money back after he's gotten his sh*t turnt inside out playing NFL football for a few season...........and his bonus is important because minor leaguers make like $15,000 per year in actual salary. And if he ever did make it to MLB then he would have to wait 6 years to reach free agency. And since MLB has a MUCH stricter PED policy........most players careers are ending in their early 30's..........which is about where he would be going into free agency in like 2030. Kyler Murray going back to baseball is a pretty absurd notion, IMO. Have there been many foreigners who started playing football and in 2 years were starting QBs on a big time NCAA football team ? I don’t follow college football but that seems unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, julian said: Have there been many foreigners who started playing football and in 2 years were starting QBs on a big time NCAA football team ? I don’t follow college football but that seems unlikely No, QB is an exception and offensive skill positions are tougher to develop at. It's mostly lineman and defensive players. But there are A LOT of them. The list of "just picked it up and now I'm an MLB player" is NOBODY. You can't outmuscle anyone in baseball and you can't steal first base so athleticism takes a very far backseat behind refined skill. But to that point..........it's not that uncommon at all for players to fail at pro baseball and jump right back into QB'ing and get on an NFL roster in a very short period of time........Drew Henson, Josh Booty, Chad Hutchinson, Brandon Weeden just to name a few..........the list of big talented QB's who found out they couldn't hit professional pitching or get pro baseball players out despite seeming like can't miss MLB prospects is long. Henson and Booty were the top HS baseball players in the nation. Baseball drafting makes the NFL draft look like an exact science which is why Kyler being drafted #9 overall in MLB means very little. Edited April 16, 2022 by BADOLBILZ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/14/2022 at 8:48 PM, BringBackFergy said: Kyler Murray single handedly defeated the Buffalo Bills two years ago with :05 seconds left in a regular season game. He deserves a monster contract. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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