I love some of you… but I hate this site right now

[Niagara Dude]

25 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

McD has often said he wants to see a balance and always is praising the run game.  Can see it with Allen's stats this year.  As good as they were Allen was only 10th in the league in passing yards/gm.  

 

I'd love it if McD wanted the #1 Offense in Football, not the #1 Defense.  The Bills were #3 in Offense, but only 9th in passing.  Funny they were 6th in rushing (thanks Josh Allen again).  

 

If anything they should strive to be better on Offense, but won't hear that from McD.

 

What they need too is a better DL and more sacks.   Again the Bills feasted on bad QB's.  The only good QBs all year were Mahomes & Brady.  Then Tannehill & Ryan & that was it.  Then you had Newton, Roethlisberger, Wentz, back-ups & rookies.  Everything aligned for the Bills.  There was no Rodgers, Burrow, Herbert, Prescott,  Stafford, Jackson, Cousins.....  

In agree the stats were fake news on defensive side,  that side of the ball needs play makers or things will not improve.  Hyde & Poyer got interceptions because teams were trailing and had no choice but to throw the football.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, billsfan714 said:

Which is it?   We lost because of a bad coaching decision or we'll never know why?  It was more than the kickoff, the prevent D said here KC take easy chunks of yards with 2 timeouts.   Isn't Sean a defensive coach?    We lost because of incompetent coaching, it isnt some mystery.

I don’t know which it is.  That’s why I phrased it in that way.  I don’t pretend to know how it happened.  
 

The loss is on McD/Frazier.  For sure. I already said that. Why even post the bolded….. I’m not acting like it’s a mystery…..

 

so now that it’s official, what do you want to do about it?  Fire McD?  Fire Frazier?  Cry about it in every post and have nothing rational to say?  Say “I told you so” over and over and over and over.  Cry more.  It’s over.  We lost.  Does saying the same nonsense over and over really make people feel better?  Maybe you should make a post breaking down 13 seconds into a 12 paragraph thesis like other have done.  Introduce new analytics we haven’t yet seen regarding how terrible McD is.

 

we were seconds away and the coaches blew it.  I’m sick over it.  I will be for, well, probably forever.  Just like wide right.  Just like the music city miracle.  I’ve been there before.  I’m trying my best to act like it and not make a fool.  Wallowing in misery = terrible coping skills. 

[UKBillFan]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t know which it is.  That’s why I phrased it in that way.  I don’t pretend to know how it happened.  
 

The loss is on McD/Frazier.  For sure. I already said that. Why even post the bolded….. I’m not acting like it’s a mystery…..

 

so now that it’s official, what do you want to do about it?  Fire McD?  Fire Frazier?  Cry about it in every post and have nothing rational to say?  Say “I told you so” over and over and over and over.  Cry more.  It’s over.  We lost.  Does saying the same nonsense over and over really make people feel better?  Maybe you should make a post breaking down 13 seconds into a 12 paragraph thesis like other have done.  Introduce new analytics we haven’t yet seen regarding how terrible McD is.

 

we were seconds away and the coaches blew it.  I’m sick over it.  I will be for, well, probably forever.  Just like wide right.  Just like the music city miracle.  I’ve been there before.  I’m trying my best to act like it and not make a fool.  Wallowing in misery = terrible coping skills. 

Misery lasts for different amounts of time for different people. Really we need to announce a new OC to distract us from 13 seconds.

[billsfan714]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t know which it is.  That’s why I phrased it in that way.  I don’t pretend to know how it happened.  
 

The loss is on McD/Frazier.  For sure. I already said that. Why even post the bolded….. I’m not acting like it’s a mystery…..

 

so now that it’s official, what do you want to do about it?  Fire McD?  Fire Frazier?  Cry about it in every post and have nothing rational to say?  Say “I told you so” over and over and over and over.  Cry more.  It’s over.  We lost.  Does saying the same nonsense over and over really make people feel better?  Maybe you should make a post breaking down 13 seconds into a 12 paragraph thesis like other have done.  Introduce new analytics we haven’t yet seen regarding how terrible McD is.

 

we were seconds away and the coaches blew it.  I’m sick over it.  I will be for, well, probably forever.  Just like wide right.  Just like the music city miracle.  I’ve been there before.  I’m trying my best to act like it and not make a fool.  Wallowing in misery = terrible coping skills. 

That's all I needed.....the coaches blew it.

 

Accountability doesn't end with the players.   If it happens again, Im not wasting Josh on a coach who cant get it done.

 

 

[NewEra]

18 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

Misery lasts for different amounts of time for different people. Really we need to announce a new OC to distract us from 13 seconds.

for sure.  Coping with misery is another story.  

Edited January 29, 2022 by NewEra

[Billsfan1972]

I just read the All-22 (yes the Athletic) and again here they claim that seems the wires were crossed on the kick.

 

According to the stills the players were expecting a kick to the left side and were surprised by down the middle and touchback. 

 

If this was the case (not saying it is), again very much points to Bass not getting the instructions.  How that could happen seems unfathomable.  It comes down to coaching and ultimately McD.    

 

Again supports that Bass as far as he knew was kicking it as far as he could down the middle (which I've dissected in another thread and various posts).  

 

And then there was the defense the next two plays......  Unbelievable any way you look at it.

 

I never got over wide right or the MCM, nor will I this for a long time, but in a week I expect to be gone from TSW until September (I know some will miss me😜).

[cd1]

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

That's all I needed.....the coaches blew it.

 

Accountability doesn't end with the players.   If it happens again, Im not wasting Josh on a coach who cant get it done.

 

 

Stuff like this….what’s this mean? If we don’t win the SB next year what are you going to do?  Assassinate him?  You surely aren’t going to fire him.  If we don’t win next year, there’s a dam good chance it’ll be partly on McD (and Beane).   Maybe we should hire the next the next new coordinator candidate.  McD is a dam good HC that happened to choke in two straight season ending losses.  Firing him isn’t the answer.  

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Stuff like this….what’s this mean? If we don’t win the SB next year what are you going to do?  Assassinate him?  You surely aren’t going to fire him.  If we don’t win next year, there’s a dam good chance it’ll be partly on McD (and Beane).   Maybe we should hire the next the next new coordinator candidate.  McD is a dam good HC that happened to choke in two straight season ending losses.  Firing him isn’t the answer.  

What do we do if he chokes again next year?

[Heitz]

30 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Respectfully, you need to let people vent. 

I'm a Masters level counselor, btw. 

Holding it in doesn't allow us to process it. 

That's what you're seeing on here....a whole lot of processing.

It's depressing, but it's the healthy way to deal with situations like this.

 

 

So, we should "trust" the process..?  Sounds familiar, I'm in!!  🤣 

 

 

And @NewEra,  

[Mr. WEO]

so much drama...

[billsfan1959]

2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

What do we do if he chokes again next year?

 

That question was asked of Andy Reid for about 19 seasons...

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I just read the All-22 (yes the Athletic) and again here they claim that seems the wires were crossed on the kick.

 

According to the stills the players were expecting a kick to the left side and were surprised by down the middle and touchback. 

 

If this was the case (not saying it is), again very much points to Bass not getting the instructions.  How that could happen seems unfathomable.  It comes down to coaching and ultimately McD.    

 

Again supports that Bass as far as he knew was kicking it as far as he could down the middle (which I've dissected in another thread and various posts).  

 

And then there was the defense the next two plays......  Unbelievable any way you look at it.

 

I never got over wide right or the MCM, nor will I this for a long time, but in a week I expect to be gone from TSW until September (I know some will miss me😜).

Responsibility goes to the HC for hiring an idiot ST coach that doesn’t have enough common sense to tell his kicker what the plan is on the most important kickoff of his life.  
 

i do agree with you, it IS on McD, he’s the HC.  The HC always accepts responsibility for the blunders of his coaching staff.  But Heath……wth Heath……
 

If failed communication is the reason for our kickoff blunder, I would 💯 fire Heath if I were mcdermott.  I wouldn’t be able to trust him again.  

[Billsfan1972]

10 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

That question was asked of Andy Reid for about 19 seasons...

But how many monumental gaffes in the playoffs did he have?  I know he blew a huge lead in the playoffs with Alex Smith (much like McD vs. Houston).  I know there were others, and many were probably similar to one's McD makes.   The next year came the the NE game.....  Looks like the same trajectory for the two of them and fingers crossed.😜

 

 

[Rew]

I'll try to avoid some game specific complaints for you NewEra. 

 

The bills have a great team in a league of some of the best athletes in the world.  They are not lucking into wins and they will be favored in most games for up foreseeable future.  The old adage "it's hard to win in the NFL" is entirely true.  To win it all in a single elimination format you need great players, a great team, good coaching, and a bit of luck.  Some of the best teams the NFL has had never won a Superbowl.  A reasonable expectation as a fan is to have a shot every year.  For most teams this means making it to the championship game and seeing what happens.  We had the misfortune of the AFC championship happening in week 2 of the playoffs this year.  I enjoyed watching and following the Bills more this season than at any point in my life.  The early 90's we're fun, but as a kid you didn't appreciate the game in the same way.

 

I'm with the players.  Disappointed because they had a great team this year and had a good shot.  I'd take all the same players and coaches next year with no changes if it were possible to ignore aging and contract situations.  No team has 53 players that are All-stars at their position.  If you look at the team as a whole you try to get to a "net sum" that's greater than the competition.  We're there.

 

The specifics of this season or game have several areas where we could have been better.  We'll pick up some there and get new weaknesses somewhere else.  Prepare yourself for it so it's not so traumatic for you.  Prepare yourself for some roster and coaching turnover.  And last, prepare yourself for several years of awesome football with us in the top tier of teams.

 

 

  

[FireChans]

10 hours ago, NewEra said:

I come here for many reasons.  I enjoy discussing our favorite team and the league that it plays in.  I enjoy reading different perspectives than my own (even though they’re all wrong if not aligned with mine, obv). I enjoy learning about prospects, schemes and football 101.  I enjoy discussing the draft.  I enjoy reading the same nonsense from the same idiots on a daily basis.   It makes me feel better about myself knowing that I’m not that stupid (regardless of what you might think 🤔).

 

This loss to the chiefs was unusually painful.  Worse than any loss I can remember, as a fan or as a participant. Pain.   I haven’t watched or listened to one second of sports talk/social media since.  Every time a buddy texts me about something sports related, my reply is the same: too soon.  
 

That said, I can’t seem to stay away from tbd.  I’ve been coming here for just short of 20 years now and I enjoy it more often ever (thanks to 17, most of you guys pretty much suck).  Until this week.  This week has been pathetic.  Maybe I’ve been pathetic too, being unable to swallow anything sports related, but some of the takes this week….. good ****ing lord.  We have a great team that should have won the SB of not for 

a bad coaching decision/s. Yet all I see is doom and gloom/nonsense spewing 🤮.  Yes it sucks that we lost, but don’t over think it. We’re a championship caliber team. We didn’t lose because Motor isn’t good enough.  We didn’t lose because Beane didn’t draft Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith (like I wanted them to).  We didn’t lose because our players aren’t fast enough. We didn’t lose because Tremaine edmunds sucks.  We didn’t lose because we don’t have a premier pass rusher. We didn’t lose because Cole Beasley didn’t get vaccinated.  Stop.  We lost because of a bad coaching decision/failed communications within our STs.  Not sure which, but that’s why we lost.  We had the game 95% won and then 13 seconds happened.  We’ll never know why we lost or what we could’ve done to ensure a win.  I know it’s a message board and this is what we do…..but it’s not enjoyable right now, for me anyways.  Act like you’ve been there before…..because most of you have.  I know it was a tough loss, but get it together tbd.

 

TBD has always been a hot-take, knee-jerk factory. We have lost two HUGE games two years in a row, the biggest games since the Super Bowl era 30 years ago. What did you honestly expect?

 

Look inward my friend. You’re probably not over it yet.

 

Edited January 29, 2022 by FireChans

[Rico]

1 hour ago, Buffalo ill said:

Basically the forum is full of people who the Bills have way too much control over their happiness in life.

Basically the forum has some people for whom the forum has way too much control over their happiness in life.

[billsfan714]

40 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Stuff like this….what’s this mean? If we don’t win the SB next year what are you going to do?  Assassinate him?  You surely aren’t going to fire him.  If we don’t win next year, there’s a dam good chance it’ll be partly on McD (and Beane).   Maybe we should hire the next the next new coordinator candidate.  McD is a dam good HC that happened to choke in two straight season ending losses.  Firing him isn’t the answer.  

Drama much with the assassinate part?   Never said anything like that.  It means I would fire him if it happens again.  If his decisions are preventing us from getting where we should be.   

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, FireChans said:

 

TBD has always been a hot-take, knee-jerk factory. We have lost two HUGE games two years in a row, the biggest games since the Super Bowl era 30 years ago. What did you honestly expect?

 

Look inward my friend. You’re probably not over it yet.

 

I’ve said countless times…… I’m definitely NOT over it.  I don’t expect to be over it for several months/years.  I feel worse about this loss than any in my life.  As 13 year old kid I cried over wide right, but I wasn’t as invested in the team as I am now.  I had a lifetime to still “win a super bowl before I die”.  Time is running out.  
 

i just don’t feel the need to make this place even more miserable than it is right now by wallpapering hot takes throughout every thread. 

2 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

Drama much with the assassinate part?   Never said anything like that.  It means I would fire him if it happens again.  If his decisions are preventing us from getting where we should be.   

Ok, so if we don’t win the SB next year, you’d fire McDermott.  Now we know.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Youre  still upset.  Ok.  Maybe it’s too soon for you to see what a great team McBeane has assembled, and yes, you can make the comment how short the SB is, but if you believe in the team, you’d see they’ve done nothing but add to this team every year.

 

yeah, we blew it in 13 seconds.  I also saw a HC who coached a team for 59 minutes and 47 seconds.  BTW- I know we win that game and we’re in the SB.  We would beat Cincy.

I don’t know what to make of these “we would beat … “ posts. Especially after the Jax debacle. Be better. 

[Dr. Who]

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’ve said countless times…… I’m definitely NOT over it.  I don’t expect to be over it for several months/years.  I feel worse about this loss than any in my life.  As 13 year old kid I cried over wide right, but I wasn’t as invested in the team as I am now.  I had a lifetime to still “win a super bowl before I die”.  Time is running out.  
 

i just don’t feel the need to make this place even more miserable than it is right now by wallpapering hot takes throughout every thread. 

Ok, so if we don’t win the SB next year, you’d fire McDermott.  Now we know.

I'm over a decade older than you. The window of mortality does make a loss like this tougher to take. As I wrote in another post, it's also that I have relatives in their eighties. I want them to be there to share a Bills' SB victory with, and this was a prime opportunity lost due to incompetence. It's much harder than just getting blown out. Josh Allen played the best football I've ever seen from a qb in the playoffs for two games. The penultimate Bills' TD was an epic drive with multiple fourth down conversions, simply spectacular, clutch play. The joy of the last Bills' TD was so intense and then so quickly dashed in an almost incomprehensible manner. That's why the emotions are so raw and perduring. I'm not out to fire the coach, but I get the anger and that folks can't stop writing about it; granted it can get tedious and irksome.

[Real McClappy]

Like with Death we cope in different ways. 

 

Today I'm finally over this epic coaching collapse and looking forward to next year. 

 

GO Bills!

[MJS]

3 hours ago, Stuartjohn said:

Fire Lesley Frazier or McD or both! They cost us our chance just sickening- worst part McD won’t own up to the incompetence game management at the end of game!
Mcd & Lesley should sit in So Fi suites cheering the Chiefs on- there the Reason The Chiefs are in Super Bowl!

Excellent thread titles. Can you come up with a few more?

[Billsfan1972]

1 minute ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I don’t know what to make of these “we would beat … “ posts. Especially after the Jax debacle. Be better. 

And we don't make the playoffs without a flute play by Dalton McD's first year.

 

Yes the Jacksonville game sucked. But that was a series of bad plays bad decisions and that happens. Here were talking 13 seconds and something that has never happened before. The Bills were two games and 13 seconds away.....  It was damn close. 

[Nihilarian]

9 hours ago, NewEra said:

Zomg….the coaching staff ruined my life!!!!  ZOMG!!!!!!!!!  Lol.  Not surprised the least bit. 
 

We weren’t the supposed #1 d.  We WERE the number one d.  Playing in a league that now caters to the O and **** on the D.  KC is a great team, led by a great qb and a great play caller and 2 future hall of fame playmakers…..while we were without our best defender.  That’s what sometimes happens.  😢 

 

I never went anywhere near saying the coaching staff ruined my life... perhaps that's you!

 

I can't watch the NFL network or ESPN simply because I don't want to listen to crap about the Chiefs for the next week. And yes, I'm hoping the Bengals beat them so I don't need to listen to them after next week.

 

KC fans rejoicing in those 13 seconds. How Travis Kelce hated the #13 and now loves it, ETC. 

 

Statistically the 2021 Buffalo Bills were the #1 overall defense. Realistically, stats are very misleading. The Bills got that #1 ranking by beating a bunch of backup scrub QBs , backup QBs in  Miami, Washington, Houston, NY Jets, Saints. 

 

Tell me how good that #1 defense was in giving up 41 points to the Colts, their RB 32 rushes for 185 yards, 4 TDs. Over 500 yards of offense to the Chiefs, 552 to be exact. 

 

The simple truth is that the 2021 Buffalo Bills were about to kick off to the Chiefs with 13 seconds left in the game, with a 94.3 chance of win probability.  Bills QB Josh Allen played two near perfect games in the playoffs.  It DOES suck they lost as we could have had a home AFC Championship game

[McBean]

11 hours ago, NewEra said:

I come here for many reasons.  I enjoy discussing our favorite team and the league that it plays in.  I enjoy reading different perspectives than my own (even though they’re all wrong if not aligned with mine, obv). I enjoy learning about prospects, schemes and football 101.  I enjoy discussing the draft.  I enjoy reading the same nonsense from the same idiots on a daily basis.   It makes me feel better about myself knowing that I’m not that stupid (regardless of what you might think 🤔).

 

This loss to the chiefs was unusually painful.  Worse than any loss I can remember, as a fan or as a participant. Pain.   I haven’t watched or listened to one second of sports talk/social media since.  Every time a buddy texts me about something sports related, my reply is the same: too soon.  
 

That said, I can’t seem to stay away from tbd.  I’ve been coming here for just short of 20 years now and I enjoy it more often ever (thanks to 17, most of you guys pretty much suck).  Until this week.  This week has been pathetic.  Maybe I’ve been pathetic too, being unable to swallow anything sports related, but some of the takes this week….. good ****ing lord.  We have a great team that should have won the SB of not for 

a bad coaching decision/s. Yet all I see is doom and gloom/nonsense spewing 🤮.  Yes it sucks that we lost, but don’t over think it. We’re a championship caliber team. We didn’t lose because Motor isn’t good enough.  We didn’t lose because Beane didn’t draft Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith (like I wanted them to).  We didn’t lose because our players aren’t fast enough. We didn’t lose because Tremaine edmunds sucks.  We didn’t lose because we don’t have a premier pass rusher. We didn’t lose because Cole Beasley didn’t get vaccinated.  Stop.  We lost because of a bad coaching decision/failed communications within our STs.  Not sure which, but that’s why we lost.  We had the game 95% won and then 13 seconds happened.  We’ll never know why we lost or what we could’ve done to ensure a win.  I know it’s a message board and this is what we do…..but it’s not enjoyable right now, for me anyways.  Act like you’ve been there before…..because most of you have.  I know it was a tough loss, but get it together tbd.

I’m not getting over it or getting crap together.

 

With a legit HC, we are prepping to go to the Super Bowl in 24 hours…at home.

 

Our HC cost us this game. Period. No excuses for the guy left. I’m so sick of him being pampered on here.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

After reading pages one through this, I am:

 

[billsfan714]

35 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’ve said countless times…… I’m definitely NOT over it.  I don’t expect to be over it for several months/years.  I feel worse about this loss than any in my life.  As 13 year old kid I cried over wide right, but I wasn’t as invested in the team as I am now.  I had a lifetime to still “win a super bowl before I die”.  Time is running out.  
 

i just don’t feel the need to make this place even more miserable than it is right now by wallpapering hot takes throughout every thread. 

Ok, so if we don’t win the SB next year, you’d fire McDermott.  Now we know.

Again your reading comprehension needs work.  It means, if another coaching blunder occurs costing us a huge game, hes fired.

[Meatloaf63]

12 hours ago, NewEra said:

I make it seem like it’s easy to get back to the super bowl.  If that’s what you got out of this post, than you’re one of the reasons this site sucks right now.  Yup, that’s it.  

Most of the time when this site sucks is intolerant posters who think only their view is acceptable and right and if someone posts a differing opinion they are terrible, shouldn’t be posting and need to be shouted down. We saw enough of this with Beasley and any other number of threads. Some of you are just like Parag Agrawal, if people  don’t say the things the way you want to hear it, you want to ban people from expressing their views.

[starrymessenger]

Getting over it means being able to look into the future with confidence. Ive always felt that McD is a good and fully qualified and experienced professional football coach but I’ve had my doubts about his suitability as a top tier head coach of the kind that can lead you to a championship. I say that believing for the most part in his ability to prepare and motivate his roster fully acknowledging that with most any coach (except maybe the greatest of them) there will be bumps in the road ala Jacksonville. The last 13 seconds perfectly illustrates my concerns with him but it really only confirms a course of conduct that has been noticeable for a long time. Maybe one charitable way of describing it is as a lack of confidence in himself and in his resources. 
I worry that despite having arguably the greatest player in the game at the all important position coaching may unduly hamper our chances of acceding to a championship, bearing in mind that even with the best coaching nothing is guaranteed. Its a character thing and I believe from experience that it is hard for people to change. And that I suspect is what is called for. 

[MasterStrategist]

14 hours ago, NewEra said:

I come here for many reasons.  I enjoy discussing our favorite team and the league that it plays in.  I enjoy reading different perspectives than my own (even though they’re all wrong if not aligned with mine, obv). I enjoy learning about prospects, schemes and football 101.  I enjoy discussing the draft.  I enjoy reading the same nonsense from the same idiots on a daily basis.   It makes me feel better about myself knowing that I’m not that stupid (regardless of what you might think 🤔).

 

This loss to the chiefs was unusually painful.  Worse than any loss I can remember, as a fan or as a participant. Pain.   I haven’t watched or listened to one second of sports talk/social media since.  Every time a buddy texts me about something sports related, my reply is the same: too soon.  
 

That said, I can’t seem to stay away from tbd.  I’ve been coming here for just short of 20 years now and I enjoy it more often ever (thanks to 17, most of you guys pretty much suck).  Until this week.  This week has been pathetic.  Maybe I’ve been pathetic too, being unable to swallow anything sports related, but some of the takes this week….. good ****ing lord.  We have a great team that should have won the SB of not for 

a bad coaching decision/s. Yet all I see is doom and gloom/nonsense spewing 🤮.  Yes it sucks that we lost, but don’t over think it. We’re a championship caliber team. We didn’t lose because Motor isn’t good enough.  We didn’t lose because Beane didn’t draft Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith (like I wanted them to).  We didn’t lose because our players aren’t fast enough. We didn’t lose because Tremaine edmunds sucks.  We didn’t lose because we don’t have a premier pass rusher. We didn’t lose because Cole Beasley didn’t get vaccinated.  Stop.  We lost because of a bad coaching decision/failed communications within our STs.  Not sure which, but that’s why we lost.  We had the game 95% won and then 13 seconds happened.  We’ll never know why we lost or what we could’ve done to ensure a win.  I know it’s a message board and this is what we do…..but it’s not enjoyable right now, for me anyways.  Act like you’ve been there before…..because most of you have.  I know it was a tough loss, but get it together tbd.

I'm as big a fan of the team as all here, but anyone taking the loss this hard this far out needs to reevaluate things a bit.  That's not judgment on anyone, just advice.

 

1. Our coaching blew the coverage schemes the last 13 seconds, S/T or kickoff meant jack. No team should allow 44 yards in less than 10 seconds.

 

2. Our dline was a heavily invested part our salary cap, so darn right fans should be upset they didn't produce better.  This unit is Not super bowl caliber and until we can get after the Qb better, this will continue to haunt us against top caliber offenses.

 

3.  Our #1 defense rating was a mirage all season, anyone who watches closely understood our deficiencies at generating front 4 sacks and not being a physical team.

 

4. Nobody should act like we just blew our one and only super bowl chance, of the Josh Allen Era.  Bengals, Rams, and 49ers would have all presented tough challenges.  

 

5. As for next year, we will be right back in the same fold as we were this season.  Front office needs to evaluate personnel closely, and tough decisions on the defensive side of ball/def style and coaching.  Can't be 1 dimensional on offense, and need more physical play from our defesnse.

[billsfan714]

I'll try and end of a positive note.   Josh Allens QB play since the second half of the Tampa Bay game is some of the greatest QBing Ive ever seen in this league and Ive been watching football for 50 years.  I would love to total his stats, with his rushing yards in that span.  It was awe inspiring.   It could of, and should of been even more and hopefully will in 22.

Edited January 29, 2022 by billsfan714

[Sweet Lou]

The advice that I’m willing to offer to those who are struggling to get past this loss, is the same strategy that I often use.

 

And that is; I refuse to allow something that I have no control over, ruin my life.  I’m not a player, or a friend of a player, I’m not a coach, or an employee of the Bills.  I’m just a fan for 48 years and counting and that’s it!  In less than two minutes after that game, I was in my hot tub.

 

A heart surgeon that I know has never missed a home game (imagine that) which includes the home snow game in Detroit a few years ago.  If he was as distraught as some of you people on this board, his patients would all be dead.

 

People tell you to get over it, because we know that God doesn’t give you what you can handle.  Instead; God helps you handle the things that you are given.  Open your eyes.

[Bing Bong]

Normally I step back for a couple days after a loss. 

 

Came back and it's still going on.

[Aussie Joe]

My prediction is that this feeling is going to continue at least to the SB ... So maybe if people don't like it you might want to avoid the place until after that.

 

Also want to suggest that people might want to pump the brakes on the expectations that they will be back this time next year competing for a championship ... That's not how sports work unfortunately... They might be back ... They might not... There are no guarantees

[JaCrispy]

15 hours ago, NewEra said:

I come here for many reasons.  I enjoy discussing our favorite team and the league that it plays in.  I enjoy reading different perspectives than my own (even though they’re all wrong if not aligned with mine, obv). I enjoy learning about prospects, schemes and football 101.  I enjoy discussing the draft.  I enjoy reading the same nonsense from the same idiots on a daily basis.   It makes me feel better about myself knowing that I’m not that stupid (regardless of what you might think 🤔).

 

This loss to the chiefs was unusually painful.  Worse than any loss I can remember, as a fan or as a participant. Pain.   I haven’t watched or listened to one second of sports talk/social media since.  Every time a buddy texts me about something sports related, my reply is the same: too soon.  
 

That said, I can’t seem to stay away from tbd.  I’ve been coming here for just short of 20 years now and I enjoy it more often ever (thanks to 17, most of you guys pretty much suck).  Until this week.  This week has been pathetic.  Maybe I’ve been pathetic too, being unable to swallow anything sports related, but some of the takes this week….. good ****ing lord.  We have a great team that should have won the SB of not for 

a bad coaching decision/s. Yet all I see is doom and gloom/nonsense spewing 🤮.  Yes it sucks that we lost, but don’t over think it. We’re a championship caliber team. We didn’t lose because Motor isn’t good enough.  We didn’t lose because Beane didn’t draft Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith (like I wanted them to).  We didn’t lose because our players aren’t fast enough. We didn’t lose because Tremaine edmunds sucks.  We didn’t lose because we don’t have a premier pass rusher. We didn’t lose because Cole Beasley didn’t get vaccinated.  Stop.  We lost because of a bad coaching decision/failed communications within our STs.  Not sure which, but that’s why we lost.  We had the game 95% won and then 13 seconds happened.  We’ll never know why we lost or what we could’ve done to ensure a win.  I know it’s a message board and this is what we do…..but it’s not enjoyable right now, for me anyways.  Act like you’ve been there before…..because most of you have.  I know it was a tough loss, but get it together tbd.

It’s because most of know the team is cursed, and the football gods will never allow a handful of teams to ever win...😉

[LABILLBACKER]

8 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Even Brady got a lot of breaks to get to all those Super Bowls. This one will hurt. Remember the Saints 3 years ago, so much for them returning to the big game.

 

Scorp83 was bang on.  It's one thing for mistakes throughout the game however when you screw up 13 seconds like no team has ever done before that's another.

 

I can tolerate physical mistakes. But mental mistakes are inexcusable. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And because of the magnitude of this game, people are pissed and have a right to be. You don't get over wide right or 13 seconds in a few days. Trust me I know.....it takes alot longer.

[NewEra]

My life isn’t ruined…….  I’m abstaining from sports related media.  This will sting for a long time, but I know how to cope so I can enjoy my life outside of Bills football.  I have a wonderful life.  We just purchased a new home and I have plenty of things to keep me busy. When I want to take a break from that stuff, I enjoy spending some free time here.  Over the last 6 days, I haven’t enjoyed any of my time here.  Not because we lost, but because others don’t know how to cope like adults. 

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

I can tolerate physical mistakes. But mental mistakes are inexcusable. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And because of the magnitude of this game, people are pissed and have a right to be. You don't get over wide right or 13 seconds in a few days. Trust me I know.....it takes alot longer.

You’ll tolerate all of it you have no choice, unless you’d like to stop being a bills fan that is

4 hours ago, billsfan714 said:

Again your reading comprehension needs work.  It means, if another coaching blunder occurs costing us a huge game, hes fired.

My reading comp is fine.  I’ve stayed already……If we lose, it will likely be because of coaching.  It doesn’t have a to be a blunder….last year, there wasn’t a specific or multiple coaching gaffes. It was an entire game plan that lost us the game. 

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I'm over a decade older than you. The window of mortality does make a loss like this tougher to take. As I wrote in another post, it's also that I have relatives in their eighties. I want them to be there to share a Bills' SB victory with, and this was a prime opportunity lost due to incompetence. It's much harder than just getting blown out. Josh Allen played the best football I've ever seen from a qb in the playoffs for two games. The penultimate Bills' TD was an epic drive with multiple fourth down conversions, simply spectacular, clutch play. The joy of the last Bills' TD was so intense and then so quickly dashed in an almost incomprehensible manner. That's why the emotions are so raw and perduring. I'm not out to fire the coach, but I get the anger and that folks can't stop writing about it; granted it can get tedious and irksome.

Everyone was jumping around mauling each other  at the bar when we scored with 13 secs left. I stood there in awe of 17 and shed a tear.  Just so happy that we finally have a QB capable of playing at such a high level.  

[billsfan714]

If Thurman Thomas is still upset as he said on the 30 for 30 -Four falls of Buffalo on ESPN, 30 years after the fact, i think we fans can be too 6 days after 13 seconds.   But we will be back!!!!!