Looks like the call to squib may not have made it to Bass

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, Billl said:

This doesn’t even make sense.  Why would it take 6 seconds to return a kick 5 yards?  Why would you assume that your special teams guys who make the league minimum are better equipped to defend the most explosive team in the NFL than the best defense in the NFL?

 

In case you haven't noticed, our ST guys don't make league minimum.  We invest a fair amount of roster spots and $$ on dedicated STer.

 

Just now, Billl said:

There were  9 kickoff returns for TDs in the NFL this year.  There were 0 scoring drives of 40+ yards that started with 13 seconds or less on the clock.  In that situation, you don’t tell your Special Teams coach to help you win the game.  The game was won.  You tell him not to f*** it up.  Every Bills fan on the planet wishes that Scott Kristie had kicked it through the end zone.

 

Who is Scott Kristie?

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Great to know that an organization that wastes roster spots and tons of cap space on special teams can't get it right in the most important moment.  

 

Still the defense choked.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

42 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Blocks happen...

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/talkoffame/nfl/rick-gosselins-2021-nfl-special-teams-rankings

 

Rick Gosselin is excellent at this, the STs were not bad

 

Let's grant that Gosselin is "excellent at this" and the ST overall ranked 8th in the league.  That would be relative to the #1 defense and the #3 offense, so there's that - they're still the worst unit on the team, despite giving a number of roster spots to ST specialists (Taiwan Jones, Neal, Kumerow, Matekavich, Andre' Smith, plus the punter, kicker, and LS).

 

That said: Blocks happen....to how many teams?

I'll answer:  6. 

 

In addition, we had several punts that don't count as blocks, but that were pretty well muffed for one reason or another

 

I'm not saying it's a "firing offense" but, it was pretty clear there was some communication/assignment issues involved in the failed block that led to the blocked punt for 7 points vs the Steelers.

 

There's been a bunch of stuff....McKenzie had a number of strong returns called back by penalty, the penalty on Taiwan Jones, the fact that we went into camp with 4 guys who had KR/PR experience, came out of camp with 3, and wound up with Hyde returning punts and maybe coaching/development played a role?  etc

 

Just not impressed with our ST given the investment

 

 

 

[Bleed Bills Blue]

13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

In case you haven't noticed, our ST guys don't make league minimum.  We invest a fair amount of roster spots and $$ on dedicated STer.

 

 

Who is Scott Kristie?

In Greek mythology, this is the cursed kicker who is a combination of Scott Norwood, Steve Christie and Krusty the Clown.

[Billsfan1972]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

This doesn’t even make sense.  Why would it take 6 seconds to return a kick 5 yards?  Why would you assume that your special teams guys who make the league minimum are better equipped to defend the most explosive team in the NFL than the best defense in the NFL?

 

There were  9 kickoff returns for TDs in the NFL this year.  There were 0 scoring drives of 40+ yards that started with 13 seconds or less on the clock.  In that situation, you don’t tell your Special Teams coach to help you win the game.  The game was won.  You tell him not to f*** it up.  Every Bills fan on the planet wishes that Scott Kristie had kicked it through the end zone.

That person is wrong.  There were 4 TD returns that were kicked short of the end zone.  One was on a squib kick.

No I was not wrong.  There was a 44 yard return, which would have been an on-side kick.  I posted it off Footballdatabase and counted every kick.  All TDs were 98-102.  Bass was kicking them all year when the Bills called for it to the 5-10 yard line (probably not the wind game).  

 

The Bills ranked 3rd in average yards allowed on kickoffs too.  Longest return was 31 yards this year.  I've done the math in other threads.

 

As for Christie, that was a lousy kick that was fielded at the 30 yard line.  A squib should be going to at least the 10-15 yard line and pop up to the 5-10. 

Edited January 26, 2022 by Billsfan1972

[pennstate10]

24 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Did anyone see the replay of this penalty? 

Didn’t see a replay but no reason to think it was a bad call. 
 

I think we’ve invested too much (cap and roster space) in ST only players to have a return on investment that is this poor. 
 

A truly elite gunner doesn’t make this mistake. 

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, pennstate10 said:

Didn’t see a replay but no reason to think it was a bad call. 
 

I think we’ve invested too much (cap and roster space) in ST only players to have a return on investment that is this poor. 
 

A truly elite gunner doesn’t make this mistake. 

I'm not saying it was a bad call. I mean I didn't see it, at all, ever. Lol, so I have no idea if it was a bad call or not. Never showed replay of it. That's happened a bit much I've noticed they don't show replay of some penalties. Frustrating...which is why I asked if anyone saw it in case they did happen to show it and I missed it.

[BuffaloBill]

2 hours ago, Livinginthepast said:

I find it really hard to believe that Bass is just in his own little world on the sideline and for the most important KO of  the season he doesnt think to ask, "what's the plan?" and confirm? and that the ST coach doesn't go to him and make sure he knows. Absolutely no way that happens.  Maybe Bass should explain, rather than it be a mystery.

 

 

Hard to say because maybe he literally in his own world.  Kickers are an odd group and some preference to be left alone in pressure situations. 

 

It does seem inconceivable that that important of a call would not have made it to him.

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Bye bye Heath!  

How does Bass not know what the situation is and at least ask someone (Farwell, McD) what's going on? Losing a monumental game like that to a mental breakdown between coaches and players is inexcusable. 

[Success]

I continue to hope that this isn't true.

 

[Billl]

42 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

In case you haven't noticed, our ST guys don't make league minimum.  We invest a fair amount of roster spots and $$ on dedicated STer.

 

 

Who is Scott Kristie?

The Bills gave up plenty of TD returns when Tasker was on the team including 3 in his last season alone.  Kick return TDs happen.  You know what didn’t happen all season until there were 13 seconds left against the Chiefs?  Of course you do.
 

Scott Kristie is one of the 6 billion people on earth who didn’t the ball through the end zone.  Steve Christie is another one of those people.  He just happens to be the one who did exactly what people in this thread were calling for only to get blocked to the ground while the guy with the ball raced into the end zone.

 

I simply cannot believe that people are faulting the Special Teams who did their jobs correctly when it’s the defense who not only have up 44 yards in 10 seconds but then allowed Mahomes to end the game going 9/9 for 137 yards and 2 TDs.  
 

Personally, I blame Josh Allen.  Gabriel Davis was so wide open in the end zone that Josh could have thrown the ball higher in the air thus burning more time off the clock.  You see, it’s not enough to simply do your job correctly.  You have to get cute and do it in a way that doesn’t put your defense in the impossible position of playing defense for 13 seconds.

Edited January 26, 2022 by Billl

[BuffaloRebound]

4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

How does Bass not know what the situation is and at least ask someone (Farwell, McD) what's going on? Losing a monumental game like that to a mental breakdown between coaches and players is inexcusable. 

Because it’s not true.  He was clearly told at some point to kick it deep.  Maybe that changed when Hill wasn’t back there and wasn’t communicated properly to him, but there’s no way Bass wasn’t told to kick deep at some point.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Billl said:

I simply cannot believe that people are faulting the Special Teams who did their jobs correctly when it’s the defense who not only have up 44 yards in 10 seconds but then allowed Mahomes to end the game going 9/9 for 137 yards and 2 TDs. 

 

Since you seem to have missed it, the premise of this thread is that ST did NOT do their job "correctly" (ie execute the play that was actually called) due to communication breakdown in communicating the desired play call to the kicker.

 

Now, whether that's correct or not....Turner speaks very definitively to this, but we don't know his source

[Billl]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Since you seem to have missed it, the premise of this thread is that ST did NOT do their job "correctly" (ie execute the play that was actually called) due to communication breakdown in communicating the desired play call to the kicker.

Yes, and as I said previously, there is precisely 0.0% chance that happened.  The conversation has since expanded slightly over the 7 pages since then and I was responding appropriately.

[Patrick Duffy]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

How does Bass not know what the situation is and at least ask someone (Farwell, McD) what's going on? Losing a monumental game like that to a mental breakdown between coaches and players is inexcusable. 

Agree, I mentioned something similar up-thread. In that particular situation I assumed it's one of those things that's obvious to every player and coach. I can't remember last time I saw a game where a team took lead with just a few ticks left on clock and didn't squib kick some sort of way.

[TheFunPolice]

McD saying it was "execution" says a lot, I think. 

 

If he wanted a touchback then execution was perfect. 

[Billsfan1972]

It's simple the coaches job was not to allow KC past the 50 yard with 13 seconds left in the game.  Analytics says you make them return it (as I shouting at the TV and am no coach).

 

When that didn't happen, the defence's job from the KC 25 yard line again is not allow them to advance the ball more then 25 yards in 2 plays.  They failed there too.

 

That is on MCD (the self appointed most prepared coach in the NFL). 

 

Epic Fail!!!!!    

[teef]

Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

It's simple the coaches job was not to allow KC past the 50 yard with 13 seconds left in the game.  Analytics says you make them return it (as I shouting at the TV and am no coach).

 

When that didn't happen, the defence's job from the KC 25 yard line again is not allow them to advance the ball more then 25 yards in 2 plays.  They failed there too.

 

That is on MCD (the self appointed most prepared coach in the NFL). 

 

Epic Fail!!!!!    

calm down.

[Nextmanup]

3 hours ago, Steptide said:

If true, that's legit terrible. The ONE guy who needs to know didn't know 

It's a total coaching failure, and by the way, McDermott could have commented on this without mentioning a single name and throwing no one under the bus.   

 

Reporter: "Sean, what's the deal with the kickoff?  Did you tell Bass to kick it out of the end zone?"

 

McD: "No, the coaching staff called for a different type of kick, not the one that was made.  The kick we got resulted in a breakdown in the chain of communication, and that's as much as I want to say.  Other than to say that ultimately, as HC, I am responsible for that chain of communication and ultimately the error rests on my shoulders."

 

SEE!  NOT HARD SEAN!

 

AND NOW WE ALL KNOW THEY DIDN'T CALL FOR A TOUCHBACK.

 

I don't care where the message failed, if that's what happened! 

 

Just tell me if the coaching staff actually thought the touchback was the right idea!

 

 

[What a Tuel]

3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

It's a total coaching failure, and by the way, McDermott could have commented on this without mentioning a single name and throwing no one under the bus.   

 

Reporter: "Sean, what's the deal with the kickoff?  Did you tell Bass to kick it out of the end zone?"

 

McD: "No, the coaching staff called for a different type of kick, not the one that was made.  The kick we got resulted in a breakdown in the chain of communication, and that's as much as I want to say.  Other than to say that ultimately, as HC, I am responsible for that chain of communication and ultimately the error rests on my shoulders."

 

SEE!  NOT HARD SEAN!

 

AND NOW WE ALL KNOW THEY DIDN'T CALL FOR A TOUCHBACK.

 

I don't care where the message failed, if that's what happened! 

 

Just tell me if the coaching staff actually thought the touchback was the right idea!

 

 

 

If he blamed it on the "kick", he is dooming Bass to a lot of harassment and passing responsibility to someone else. 

 

Owning up to it as a failure as a team starting with him is the right call for this not to be a media circus. 

 

It is frustrating to not know but its the right call not to put our business out there and make it a national story "kicker got call wrong".

[Hapless Bills Fan]

26 minutes ago, Billl said:

Yes, and as I said previously, there is precisely 0.0% chance that happened.  The conversation has since expanded slightly over the 7 pages since then and I was responding appropriately.

 

I don't know who Erik Turner's source is.

 

But I think there's a 0.0% chance that you're more plugged into the Buffalo Bills team or have better sources than he does.

[Billsfan1972]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't know who Erik Turner's source is.

 

But I think there's a 0.0% chance that you're more plugged into the Buffalo Bills team or have better sources than he does.

And I heard from a source, that Frazier said "Don't worry about big chunks down the middle of the field or defending Hill or Kelsey, protect the sideline out pattern"😜

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

And I heard from a source, that Frazier said "Don't worry about big chunks down the middle of the field or defending Hill or Kelsey, protect the sideline out pattern"😜

I'm getting a sarcasm vibe from this lol, but hard to tell with some posters...but only a knuckle head would say, "don't worry about defending Hill and Kelce", although that's exactly what they did. It just sounds so crazy a coach would say that lol. 

[Billl]

10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't know who Erik Turner's source is.

 

But I think there's a 0.0% chance that you're more plugged into the Buffalo Bills team or have better sources than he does.

I’m not trying to convince you of anything.  If you think the special teams coordinator forgot to tell the kicker what the plan was, the other 10 players on the field also forgot, and Bass didn’t think to ask anyone what the plan was, that’s your prerogative.  Frankly, if they’re that incompetent, I don’t know why you’d trust them to execute a squib kick.  Half of them probably had their helmets on backwards.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

And I heard from a source, that Frazier said "Don't worry about big chunks down the middle of the field or defending Hill or Kelsey, protect the sideline out pattern"😜

 

Like I said above.  Turner actually has current Bills players on some of his videos.  So sarc all you want.  I'm still gonna go with I have reason to believe Turner may actually have a knowledgeable source and no reason to believe the same of you.

 

2 minutes ago, Billl said:

I’m not trying to convince you of anything. 

 

Sure you are, or you wouldn't be posting here.  BTW I said nothing about "forgot"

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, SWATeam said:

This is the big leagues and there are consequences.  You want to preach accountability, it's not just for the players.

 

I'm not assuming this report is correct but, if so, it's not some simple miscommunication to learn from.  It's an inexcusable failure.

Hard hard hard disagree.  I’m not weakening our team over a miscommunication.  Everyone in this thread would have been fired from every job they ever had or currently have if you got fired for a single mistake.  
 

Sorry firing him would be a huge emotional over reaction.  And how do we know it wasn’t a player that was supposed to tell Bass?  Or maybe someone shouted at him and he didn’t hear with crowd noise?  
 

Not to mention we still had multiple chances to not lose that game after the kickoff in both regulation and OT.  
 

Just would be foolish to fire him after our ST unit was among the best in the NFL this year.  
 

This season is over.  Stupid to lessen our team now over it going into next season where we are on a new quest to win it all just to satisfy some fans appetite for blood as if that changes anything.  

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, Billl said:

I’m not trying to convince you of anything.  If you think the special teams coordinator forgot to tell the kicker what the plan was, the other 10 players on the field also forgot, and Bass didn’t think to ask anyone what the plan was, that’s your prerogative.  Frankly, if they’re that incompetent, I don’t know why you’d trust them to execute a squib kick.  Half of them probably had their helmets on backwards.

I get what you're saying and who knows what/how it really went down. But it just seems weird to me.. It's really strange that the other players on ST would know but not the kicker for some reason.

 

I don't know, but kinda comes off as someone attempting to cover their own ass

[london_bills]

4 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

A popular Bills podcaster is claiming it is "fact, not speculation" that a squib kick was called and it was communicated to the entire special teams huddle except for Bass, who was practicing to the side.

Also, the Bills played defense as if there were only 8 seconds left. You almost wonder if the defensive call was made prior to the kick and they didn't adjust. Had they squibbed, the defense they played would have been fine.

 

It should be noted that the podcaster has not specified how he knows the "fact" of the squib call. Does he have a source in the building?

Is that the cover one video or somewhere else where I can hear that? 

Edited January 26, 2022 by london_bills

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

2 minutes ago, london_bills said:

Is that the cover one video or somewhere else where I can hear that? 

Cover 1

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Let's grant that Gosselin is "excellent at this" and the ST overall ranked 8th in the league.  That would be relative to the #1 defense and the #3 offense, so there's that - they're still the worst unit on the team, despite giving a number of roster spots to ST specialists (Taiwan Jones, Neal, Kumerow, Matekavich, Andre' Smith, plus the punter, kicker, and LS).

 

That said: Blocks happen....to how many teams?

I'll answer:  6. 

 

In addition, we had several punts that don't count as blocks, but that were pretty well muffed for one reason or another

 

I'm not saying it's a "firing offense" but, it was pretty clear there was some communication/assignment issues involved in the failed block that led to the blocked punt for 7 points vs the Steelers.

 

There's been a bunch of stuff....McKenzie had a number of strong returns called back by penalty, the penalty on Taiwan Jones, the fact that we went into camp with 4 guys who had KR/PR experience, came out of camp with 3, and wound up with Hyde returning punts and maybe coaching/development played a role?  etc

 

Just not impressed with our ST given the investment

 

 

 

I came to this thread intending to say something else, but in looking through the last couple of pages, I found this.  

 

What you say is a terrific insight into the bigger picture.   You've demonstrated that the special teams underperformed to McDermott's standards.  The Jones penalty and the miscommunication on the squib kick is bad enough, but your look back over the season really makes the case.   They're just supposed to be better than that.  

 

It's clear from what McDermott said that what to do in the kickoff situation was a detail that they had thought about and planned for.  As a group, the players and coaches failed to execute, which is exactly what McDermott said. 

 

The finger points clearly at Farwell.  McDermott's job in the coming days is to decide whether he continues to believe that Farwell is the right guy for the job, whether he can learn and grow so that he executes teaches and executes better.   Some teams would have fired him the day after the game.   McDermott won't treat people that way; he will let the waters calm a bit, but he isn't going to keep the guy if he doesn't think he can do the job better.  

 

Several years ago, a US submarine surfaced off the coast of Hawaii and struck and sank a Japanese ship that was carrying school children on a summer oceanography class.   Several kids died.   Several months later, I happened to see the captain of the submarine on Larry King.  King kept trying to get the guy to say it was the radar operators' fault for not seeing the ship on the surface, or the helmsman's fault for surfacing without checking with the radar guy, or someone else's fault for not doing something else.   The captain repeatedly refused.   He kept saying it was his fault.  He was responsible for the training of the crew, and if someone didn't do his job right, it was the captain's fault.  It was admirable, and it was true.  His job is to organize everyone on the boat in a way that they always execute.   

 

McDermott sees it the same way.   He is not going to blame what happened on anyone, because he is going to work and evaluate and train to be sure it doesn't happen again.  It was someone's job to be sure that Bass knew to squib it, and that someone didn't do it.  The training has to be better, but maybe the system has to be better, too.  Maybe there needs to be a second guy, maybe a guy on the kickoff team, whose job it is to double check with Bass.   And maybe there are other on-field situations where they need a better procedure.   McDermott understands that's his job, and there will be changes made.  

[Reed83HOF]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Let's grant that Gosselin is "excellent at this" and the ST overall ranked 8th in the league.  That would be relative to the #1 defense and the #3 offense, so there's that - they're still the worst unit on the team, despite giving a number of roster spots to ST specialists (Taiwan Jones, Neal, Kumerow, Matekavich, Andre' Smith, plus the punter, kicker, and LS).

 

That said: Blocks happen....to how many teams?

I'll answer:  6. 

 

In addition, we had several punts that don't count as blocks, but that were pretty well muffed for one reason or another

 

I'm not saying it's a "firing offense" but, it was pretty clear there was some communication/assignment issues involved in the failed block that led to the blocked punt for 7 points vs the Steelers.

 

There's been a bunch of stuff....McKenzie had a number of strong returns called back by penalty, the penalty on Taiwan Jones, the fact that we went into camp with 4 guys who had KR/PR experience, came out of camp with 3, and wound up with Hyde returning punts and maybe coaching/development played a role?  etc

 

Just not impressed with our ST given the investment

 

 

 

All good points, McKenzie being thrust into the role was us letting Robert's walk (cap situation obviously). That didn't work out well, that is a player who is not comfortable out there and not having other realistic options. Is that the coach? That is more on the player and the organization imo.

 

Same can be said for Haack, who was not good. It sure doesn't sound like Beane was impressed as he was inconsistent. They didn't want to make a move because of the kicking situation. With the limited practice time, not 1 team used QB2 as a holder this year....

 

I would have to go back and look at the 6 punts you are referring to, how much of that is a player getting beat or even Haack taking a second too long or a bad angle?

 

 

[Shaw66]

3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

All good points, McKenzie being thrust into the role was us letting Robert's walk (cap situation obviously). That didn't work out well, that is a player who is not comfortable out there and not having other realistic options. Is that the coach? That is more on the player and the organization imo.

 

Same can be said for Haack, who was not good. It sure doesn't sound like Beane was impressed as he was inconsistent. They didn't want to make a move because of the kicking situation. With the limited practice time, not 1 team used QB2 as a holder this year....

 

I would have to go back and look at the 6 punts you are referring to, how much of that is a player getting beat or even Haack taking a second too long or a bad angle?

 

 

Not to speak for Hapless, but I think when you look at the totality of what you just said, you have to ask whether Farwell is the right guy for the job.   Essentially, you said Farwell is unable to get McKenzie to do his job and was unable to get Haack to do his job.  Probably unable to get the line to do its job.   There was a broad collection of problems on special teams.  

[Reed83HOF]

3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Not to speak for Hapless, but I think when you look at the totality of what you just said, you have to ask whether Farwell is the right guy for the job.   Essentially, you said Farwell is unable to get McKenzie to do his job and was unable to get Haack to do his job.  Probably unable to get the line to do its job.   There was a broad collection of problems on special teams.  

Coverage units were good, players stayed in their lanes, not many big returns given up. That is more coaching vs 1 on 1 matchups...

 

You can only coach up players so much.

 

When it comes to blocks, were the other teams selling out to block the punts to try to score points since they can't keep up with our offense and Josh?

 

This is multifaceted 

[Shaw66]

25 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

 

This is multifaceted 

No doubt.  That's why we're all just talkin'.  Only the people in the building know what's what. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

34 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

All good points, McKenzie being thrust into the role was us letting Robert's walk (cap situation obviously). That didn't work out well, that is a player who is not comfortable out there and not having other realistic options. Is that the coach? That is more on the player and the organization imo.

 

Same can be said for Haack, who was not good. It sure doesn't sound like Beane was impressed as he was inconsistent. They didn't want to make a move because of the kicking situation. With the limited practice time, not 1 team used QB2 as a holder this year....

 

I would have to go back and look at the 6 punts you are referring to, how much of that is a player getting beat or even Haack taking a second too long or a bad angle?

 

 

 

Apologies if I was unclear, I wasn't referring to 6 blocks of Haack punts.

 

My intended point was that there were only 6 teams in the league who had any punts scored as blocks .....so while blocks do happen, most teams do not have punts blocked.

 

I don't think McKenzie was "thrust into the role".  He wanted it, he worked for it, he earned it against his competition.  And his competition included a guy who was a KR/PR in college, a RB who had returned kickoffs his rookie year, and a WR who is now returning kicks and punts for a team that is still in the playoffs (Brandon Powell, Rams).

 

So really, none of the 4 worked out, and since at least 1 of them can apparently get the job done for a championship contending team, is that the players or could there be an aspect of coaching?

 

50 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

When it comes to blocks, were the other teams selling out to block the punts to try to score points since they can't keep up with our offense and Josh?

 

For the blocked punt against the Steelers, they were keeping up with our offense just fine

No "selling out" that I saw.  Matekavich said that they'd practiced against that formation during the week, so it wasn't something they hadn't seen, either.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

I mean that’s still on McDermott. He is the head coach.  He hast to take five seconds to walk over to Bass and tell him that we are squib kicking it. I don’t care if McDermont is the 10th person to tell bass.

[Billsfan1972]

Farwell looks after all aspects of ST.  The one there can be no issues with is kick coverage, with the longest return all year being 31 yards and an average under 18.

 

Squib or Pop-up (the two I wanted and all numbers pointed too with the clock running) or through the endzone.  I find it unfathomable that they were not on the same page.

 

The call was to kick it deep.  Some say Bass kicked it too long, which as I pointed out in the first post was wrong, reviewing every kick.  I then made the argument that the better options had a much higher probability of success.  

 

To say it was miscommunication is next to impossible to believe, because that is the kickers one and only job (kick it as told to by the coach (left, right, down the middle, through the endzone).  

Edited January 26, 2022 by Billsfan1972

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, london_bills said:

Is that the cover one video or somewhere else where I can hear that? 

 

Cover 1.  7 minutes in.  Start about 6:30

[Billznut]

5 hours ago, Mickey said:

clock doesn't run on a 2 point conversion or an extra point kick

Isn’t it scary that some called football fans here don’t know this?  I’ve known this since age 8 as I’m sure alot of others have as well. 

[HamptonBillsfan]

It's all BS. Sean is responsible under any circumstance for what Bass did. If he didn't confirm that Bass knew he had to kick the ball in the field of play, he's guilty of incompetence. What happened is that the wrong decision played out and resulted in an epic collapse. Sean has to own it.