Honestly what do you do moving forward?

[Fred Slacks]

We need an impact pass rusher. Stud Corner would be great but an impact pass rusher makes a bigger difference in my opinion. 
 

Josh Allen is going to win us a super bowl. That was an amazing two drives he put together. Sucks to be done for this season cause this may have been as good of a shot to win a super bowl as ever.  Still that was as good of a game finish as the Chargers/Raiders regular season game. 
 

We have the QB. Really a lot of good pieces but we need playmakers on defense I believe. Difference makers. Von Miller showed up big today. We lack that kind of player on defense. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

He wasnt better tonight.

Sure he was had game tying drive with 13 seconds and game winning TD drive.  That’s better 

[Roundybout]

4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

If I see one more idiot defend Edmund's I'll punch you in the face.

 

Yeah, I'm done defending him. Way too many times he's just jogging in the secondary not covering anyone or hitting the wrong hole on run plays. 

[Reed83HOF]

17 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Pay the best available DE in free agency, or trade for one. We didn't bring Mahomes down nearly enough.

 

I think we should keep drafting defense, against popular belief. Allen doesn't need more help. We just need the defense to hold elite offenses.

 

Not trying to be overly reactionary here: Beasley is likely gone and I like Davis over Sanders, we do need some more depth at WR and we need speed there. Being able to spread the ball around is huge for Josh and our offense - we likely need 2 WRs in FA or the draft. Spencer Brown had his hands full with Ingram, he is a rookie and will get better, but we need to get some interior OL guys as well to start growing over the next 2 years. We can't sacrifice our depth too much to clear cap for other needs.

 

Levi Wallace will get paid in FA is my guess so CB2 is a huge need. Not having Tre hurt us a lot tonight, as it should - he is a freaking great player.

 

DE does need some tweaking and DT is a slight concern with our rotation of players. Edmunds hmmmm....

[Nelius]

Got to continue to load up Josh with weapons like the big boys do now that he’s clearly one of the best in the league. Emmanuel Sanders tier isn’t going to cut it. Arm him, get crazy like the Rams do. Take a WR/TE in the top 2 rounds for the next decade.

[TheFunPolice]

Andy Reid is an all time great HC.

 

Yet for most of his career people said the exact same things about him as are being said about McD

[Milanos Milano]

Imagine losing with Allen as you QB and a #1 defense. Embarrassing 

[HappyDays]

After watching tonight's game I don't know how anyone thinks adding offense will help us beat the Chiefs. Sure we could use another playmaker but that isn't going to stop Mahomes and Hill and Kelce from getting 40 yards in 10 seconds. We need a CB and a pass rusher. And a play caller that knows who the best player on the field is.

[Victory Formation]

56 minutes ago, dgr81 said:

Clean house with the coaching staff

This is a half truth. Yes, many coaches need to be fired, especially on defense, but I would leave the light on for McDermott.

[thenorthremembers]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Sure he was had game tying drive with 13 seconds and game winning TD drive.  That’s better 

If you watched that game and cam away thinking he was the better qb tonight I domt know what to tell you.  He has Hill ans Kelce.  We had Gabe Davis and a bunch of guys who didnt show up.  

[0017]

55 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Our offense is already legit. I mean sure we could use some more o-linemen. But we already punt nearly the lowest in the league. Keep drafting defense? We have wasted how many picks there already. Go after FAs? We are already near cap space. It’s so frustrating. I’m the the point where we need to get another star CB as an insurance policy and maybe someone dedicated to be able to guard TEs, and then also focus on o-linemen. If we draft another DE or DT at this point I’m going to be disappointed. 

Haha! It’s funny I was thinking the same thing, I’m like “ok on to the draft” but what do we take? I think we really need some speed at CB and WR, we need to stretch out defenses a little better, and freaking cover T. Hill and Kelce! 

[Milanos Milano]

Just now, HappyDays said:

After watching tonight's game I don't know how anyone thinks adding offense will help us beat the Chiefs. Sure we could use another playmaker but that isn't going to stop Mahomes and Hill and Kelce from getting 40 yards in 10 seconds. We need a CB and a pass rusher. And a play caller that knows who the best player on the field is.

I somewhat agree with this, but we have waste 2 years of drafts and FAs and tied up a bunch of cap space on minimal results. Not having White has hurt, but we need another legit CB. I’m to the point where I don’t think we have the ability to evaluate defensive talent. Just keep drafting speed WRs and let Allen cook so we don’t have to punt. 

[appoo]

You gotta add speed to the back 5. Love both Poyer and Micah but I’d want to upgrade one of them for a faster player, and I’d also add some speed at the boundary corner.  Think that’s the biggest weakness here. 
 

if you can find a stud DE that’s great but I thought the DLine played well. They were pressuring. Not getting down Mahomes Is a different quest 

[MPT]

5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

We have to do something. We can’t just keep losing to KC in the playoffs every year. 

Is it though? Coaches have won Super Bowls with much much much worse talent than a team like the Bills. It’s just sad. I think McDermott is good enough, but man talk about depressing. 

 

Yeah I'm torn on McDermott. Obviously he completely changed the culture around the Bills and we are legit Super Bowl contenders now. But Josh Allen is most of the reason for the latter. And to lose a game when you're winning with 13 seconds left, the coach has to do multiple things that are monumentally stupid. Like, if you asked me specifically how a team could play those 13 seconds to lose intentionally, it would be exactly what McDermott did.

[TheFunPolice]

Add a proven DE in free agency.

Find a super fast RB to go with Singletary.

Draft a disgustingly enormous DT

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

Not trying to be overly reactionary here: Beasley is likely gone and I like Davis over Sanders, we do need some more depth at WR and we need speed there. Being able to spread the ball around is huge for Josh and our offense - we likely need 2 WRs in FA or the draft. Spencer Brown had his hands full with Ingram, he is a rookie and will get better, but we need to get some interior OL guys as well to start growing over the next 2 years. We can't sacrifice our depth too much to clear cap for other needs.

 

The problem is that shootouts are coin toss games, quite literally as we found out tonight. I don't want to hear anymore about this supposed #1 defense. It still isn't anywhere near good enough. Offenses need an elite QB and a couple other good players to be elite. Defenses need an elite player at each level, front middle and back. We have one elite player who unfortunately tore his ACL. But that still isn't good enough to stop Mahomes.

[DapperCam]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

If you watched that game and cam away thinking he was the better qb tonight I domt know what to tell you.  He has Hill ans Kelce.  We had Gabe Davis and a bunch of guys who didnt show up.  

 

Exactly, the go ahead TD that Mahomes threw was just a basic crosser that Hill took to the house (on basically prevent defense). It wasn't anything special. Allen never seems to get those. It could be his vision, but also I think scheme.

[SoCal Deek]

Dump Daboll, Frazier and Edmunds 

issues solved! 

[thenorthremembers]

Just now, DapperCam said:

 

Exactly, the go ahead TD that Mahomes threw was just a basic crosser that Hill took to the house (on basically prevent defense). It wasn't anything special. Allen never seems to get those. It could be his vision, but also I think scheme.

My point exactly.  We dont have one guy who makes that play.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

42 minutes ago, B-Large said:

Yep, just don’t ask him to challenge plays…. He was terrible… but otherwise, played KC very tight… 

 

Fangio is a great DC would love him here, see ya Frazier.

 

 

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I somewhat agree with this, but we have waste 2 years of drafts and FAs and tied up a bunch of cap space on minimal results. Not having White has hurt, but we need another legit CB. I’m to the point where I don’t think we have the ability to evaluate defensive talent. Just keep drafting speed WRs and let Allen cook so we don’t have to punt. 

 

I would make a big splash this offseason. Trade for Khalil Mack if he's available. Or Danielle Hunter at least. Too many times tonight DEs had their hands on Mahomes and couldn't bring him down. We need a game wrecker on defense to take this team to a championship level.

[Sharky7337]

Need better tackling on defense I don't know how you improve that bur it has been bad all year.

 

Need better pressure. Watching QBs escape our rush game after game and our DEs skate around on ice is brutal.

 

corner back play and speed needs improvement

 

Line play needs improvement

 

Need two younger receivers And a speed RB

[Beast]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

After watching tonight's game I don't know how anyone thinks adding offense will help us beat the Chiefs. Sure we could use another playmaker but that isn't going to stop Mahomes and Hill and Kelce from getting 40 yards in 10 seconds. We need a CB and a pass rusher. And a play caller that knows who the best player on the field is.

So, are you saying this offense couldn’t reach another level with our own Tyreek Hill or Deebo Samuel?

 

Josh laid it on the line tonight and all season. As much of a weapon as he is I would be just fine not seeing QB sweeps with him running over defenders.

 

Time to really ramp this show up. We have the best player in the NFL. Let’s protect him and surround him with more weapons.

[Jerboski]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Fangio is a great DC would love him here, see ya Frazier.

 

 

Absolutely 

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I would make a big splash this offseason. Trade for Khalil Mack if he's available. Or Danielle Hunter at least. Too many times tonight DEs had their hands on Mahomes and couldn't bring him down. We need a game wrecker on defense to take this team to a championship level.

We could probably get either of those players for some draft capital… has to be a thought 

[B-Large]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Fangio is a great DC would love him here, see ya Frazier.

 

 

He played KC incredibly well, and this year didn’t it with no linebackers you’ve ever heard of (everybody was injured),  Chubb gone for most of the year, Miller traded…  if I were the Bills, I might make a move to bring Vic in…. He plays bend don’t break but does it very well… 

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, Beast said:

So, are you saying this offense couldn’t reach another level with our own Tyreek Hill or Deebo Samuel?

 

Josh laid it on the line tonight and all season. As much of a weapon as he is I would be just fine not seeing QB sweeps with him running over defenders.

 

Time to really ramp this show up. We have the best player in the NFL. Let’s protect him and surround him with more weapons.

I mean sure, we could draft or trade for another Hill or Samuel type, but that is going to cost a bunch of money. Money we have wasted on subpar defensive players. 

[Nelius]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

After watching tonight's game I don't know how anyone thinks adding offense will help us beat the Chiefs. Sure we could use another playmaker but that isn't going to stop Mahomes and Hill and Kelce from getting 40 yards in 10 seconds. We need a CB and a pass rusher. And a play caller that knows who the best player on the field is.

Hanging 50 on the Chiefs is also an option with this QB. Totally agree with your point but you also need to naturally keep up with offensive attrition and continue to arm the eff out of Allen every single year moving forward. 35-40 pts is the baseline in a game like this so yeah I think you do need to constantly improve the offense. Maybe air out KC instead of trying to stop them.

[Beast]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I mean sure, we could draft or trade for another Hill or Samuel type, but that is going to cost a bunch of money. Money we have wasted on subpar defensive players. 

Do our best to find one in the draft. Imagine a Tyreek Hill on our offense? I know they don’t grow on trees but they aren’t some unicorn either.

Edited January 24, 2022 by Beast

[Milanos Milano]

Say GB doesn’t franchise tag Davante Adams. Say be signs with the Bills. Is that the route we should go? We would then have Diggs Adams Davis McKenzie. 

Just now, Beast said:

Do our best to find one in the draft. Imagine a Tyreek Hill on our offense?

Davante Adams is a FA, we should target him. Other wise draft a WR like WanDale Robinson. 

[Reed83HOF]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

The problem is that shootouts are coin toss games, quite literally as we found out tonight. I don't want to hear anymore about this supposed #1 defense. It still isn't anywhere near good enough. Offenses need an elite QB and a couple other good players to be elite. Defenses need an elite player at each level, front middle and back. We have one elite player who unfortunately tore his ACL. But that still isn't good enough to stop Mahomes.

 

We did give up 42 points, but those 13 seconds were on the coaching staff as well. If we want to win, we have to play better defense, some of which I place on our scheme, we don't attack enough IMO. One of the issues I had this past off season was the pass rush, while it was fine we drafted Greg and Boogie we could have signed any of the FA DEs and we didn't - there were a couple I was pounding the table for. Relying on rookies to develop enough to help the pass rush was unlikely...

 

We have 2 All-Pro safeties who had to take on larger roles without Tre

 

Why didn't we squib? Was it on the Coaches or did Bass mess up and kick it too hard? Why did we take our defensive times outs and give them the space they had (i posted above)
 

 

 

 

[Beast]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Say GB doesn’t franchise tag Davante Adams. Say be signs with the Bills. Is that the route we should go? We would then have Diggs Adams Davis McKenzie. 

Davante Adams is a FA, we should target him. Other wise draft a WR like WanDale Robinson. 

 Ah. I’m thinking more of a just flat out track star that can play some football. McKenzie is Hill-lite…very lite.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, B-Large said:

He played KC incredibly well, and this year didn’t it with no linebackers you’ve ever heard of (everybody was injured),  Chubb gone for most of the year, Miller traded…  if I were the Bills, I might make a move to bring Vic in…. He plays bend don’t break but does it very well… 

 

I remember Fangio at Stanford and he had some very creative blitzes. We beat the chiefs too but they fixed those problems during the season like we did.

 

I think we should have stayed aggressive on offense all game. After we scored the first touchdown we weren't try to push the ball over the middle were we made a lot of our big plays. Those drives were we punted early cost us too.

 

 

[BillMafia716ix]

I honestly don’t see how we recover from this TBH. This was a real bad heartbreaking loss. I hope I’m wrong. But this loss is worse than last year. This was our best opportunity to win the SB. Especially with Brady and Rodgers already out of it. 
 

Coaching staff blew a golden opportunity. 13 seconds smh. This loss is going to be felt for a very long time

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

We did give up 42 points, but those 13 seconds were on the coaching staff as well. If we want to win, we have to play better defense, some of which I place on our scheme, we don't attack enough IMO. One of the issues I had this past off season was the pass rush, while it was fine we drafted Greg and Boogie we could have signed any of the FA DEs and we didn't - there were a couple I was pounding the table for. Relying on rookies to develop enough to help the pass rush was unlikely...

 

We have 2 All-Pro safeties who had to take on larger roles without Tre

 

Why didn't we squib? Was it on the Coaches or did Bass mess up and kick it too hard? Why did we take our defensive times outs and give them the space they had (i posted above)
 

 

 

 

 

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, Beast said:

 Ah. I’m thinking more of a just flat out track star that can play some football. McKenzie is Hill-lite…very lite.

The problem is, we aren’t utilizing McKenzie’s speed enough in game routes. Why? John Ross has track speed, but he’s not the greatest of receivers. 

[B-Large]

3 minutes ago, Beast said:

So, are you saying this offense couldn’t reach another level with our own Tyreek Hill or Deebo Samuel?

 

Josh laid it on the line tonight and all season. As much of a weapon as he is I would be just fine not seeing QB sweeps with him running over defenders.

 

Time to really ramp this show up. We have the best player in the NFL. Let’s protect him and surround him with more weapons.

I’d like to Josh’s wheels hit the road 2-3 times a game, max… or on occasion in the playoffs when he trucks someone… but other that that, he’s gonna get hurt, or wear and tear will catch up to him.

 

 

[Tulsabillsfanz]

-A DE who disrupts consistently 

-A very good RB

-One more good, young WR

-One more legit TE

-Lower the overall age of the roster

-Speed, speed & speed, especially on D. 

 

We have a solid defense, but lack speed overall. 
I like our receivers overall ( we must re-sign Davis), but the yards after catch for KC tonight had to be way more than ours. We don’t have WRs that break many tackles.   
Singletary is OK, but a big RB, who can still move, would save wear & tear on Allen. 

[HappyDays]

8 minutes ago, Beast said:

So, are you saying this offense couldn’t reach another level with our own Tyreek Hill or Deebo Samuel?

 

Honestly, no. The only thing that stopped the offense tonight was Daboll taking the ball out of his best player's hands. Last week we had a perfect offensive game. What next level is there? The defense on the other hand lacks game changers. We needed one elite play from them tonight and we didn't get it.

[mannc]

Need to add a legit speed receiver in the draft, a weapon who can take a short dump off to the house…

[JerseyBills]

RB and C 

3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

We did give up 42 points, but those 13 seconds were on the coaching staff as well. If we want to win, we have to play better defense, some of which I place on our scheme, we don't attack enough IMO. One of the issues I had this past off season was the pass rush, while it was fine we drafted Greg and Boogie we could have signed any of the FA DEs and we didn't - there were a couple I was pounding the table for. Relying on rookies to develop enough to help the pass rush was unlikely...

 

We have 2 All-Pro safeties who had to take on larger roles without Tre

 

Why didn't we squib? Was it on the Coaches or did Bass mess up and kick it too hard? Why did we take our defensive times outs and give them the space they had (i posted above)
 

 

 

 

Factual 

Jerry is actually right on the $ here