2020 Our Year For Sure Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 We could probably trade a 5th or 6th in another trade and pick up a passable backup QB somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Super Bowl or bust. It’s go time. Go get Scherff and Fuller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: We send them Mitch. They take on all of Brandon Scherffs contract and we have an all pro guard. Make it so.  This would (nervously) work for me. They don't even have to take on all of Brandon Scherff's $18M contract, just $4M or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Brandon Scherff And a first, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Trade trubisky, would the bills sign cam Newton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, Cheektowaga Chad said: Trade trubisky, would the bills sign cam Newton? If the guy who coached him in the Super Bowl doesnt want him, I would assume its pretty well over for ole Cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Trade trubisky, would the bills sign cam Newton? Why on gods green earth would they sign Cam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: If the guy who coached him in the Super Bowl doesnt want him, I would assume its pretty well over for ole Cam. I agree but id rather go with cam over Webb/fromm/Barkley. I don't believe any of those guys could win a playoff game  If trubisky is traded, I hope we have a new back up ready to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 He's on a one year deal and he's not seeing the field unless something bad happens. I say trade him for any mid-round pick you can get. The biggest issue is if Josh gets concussed or something in a playoff game, but I think you take that risk. If Mitch were on a 3 year deal, this would be a different conversation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said: He's on a one year deal and he's not seeing the field unless something bad happens. I say trade him for any mid-round pick you can get. The biggest issue is if Josh gets concussed or something in a playoff game, but I think you take that risk. If Mitch were on a 3 year deal, this would be a different conversation. But I’m pretty sure we get a decent comp pick if Mitch signs a nice deal somewhere else after the season, so why trade him for a 3d or 4th round pick now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Sure Mitch would have input on a trade. Â I would guess New Orleans has more appeal then WFT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I agree but id rather go with cam over Webb/fromm/Barkley. I don't believe any of those guys could win a playoff game  If trubisky is traded, I hope we have a new back up ready to go If you have to look at it holistically.  Is Cam more naturally gifted than those guys, yes.  But his arm is gone, he doesnt know the system, and he has a box of rocks between his ears.  If Josh goes down its over regardless.  Better to let the guys who have spent time here play, than bring in a 6'6 distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, mannc said: But I’m pretty sure we get a decent comp pick if Mitch signs a nice deal somewhere else after the season, so why trade him for a 3d or 4th round pick now? Trading him now would be to move out salary for another player coming in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Trading him now would be to move out salary for another player coming in But Trubisky’s salary is only $2 million this year… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, mannc said: But Trubisky’s salary is only $2 million this year… Is that all they save on the cap by trading him? Thought he was like an 8-10 mil cap hit 5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: If you have to look at it holistically.  Is Cam more naturally gifted than those guys, yes.  But his arm is gone, he doesnt know the system, and he has a box of rocks between his ears.  If Josh goes down its over regardless.  Better to let the guys who have spent time here play, than bring in a 6'6 distraction. Not my first choice either but if I had to pick a qb between Webb/fromm/newton to win a playoff game playing 3.5 quarters because your starting QB is out for the rest of the game, I don't have much faith in scoring any points with a webb or fromm led offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JMF2006 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Gonzonzo said: Maybe we can get Fitz (and a 2nd) in return. Once he recovery he can be te new back up QB.  Yikes. You do know the Fitz cycle....that scares the crap out me we need JA17 healthy I would prefer Heineken as part of the trade   At least he doesn't have a curse attached to him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Why on gods green earth would they sign Cam? I’ll be honest. That wouldn’t surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Why on gods green earth would they sign Cam?  21 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: If trubisky is traded, I hope we have a new back up ready to go  Mitch for Cam...  4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I’ll be honest. That wouldn’t surprise me.  I'd rather have a rehabbing Fitz. After watching Newton play us twice last season, he's done like dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 58 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: Trubisky for fitz and a draft pick? Now this would be incredible. Get a 2nd and 4th and Fitz for Trubisky to a desperate Washington team. If they are that stupid we take it and run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, sullim4 said:  I'd rather have a rehabbing Fitz. After watching Newton play us twice last season, he's done like dinner. As long as the bills have another back up ready to replace trubisky I'm comfortable with it  He'll even tyrod could be an option if trubisky is moved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I guess I'd be kinda surprised if we actually trade Trubisky. Feel like we'd get a 4th, maybe a 3rd if we're lucky. And I'm not sure that's worth not having him around in case of an Allen absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, sullim4 said:  I'd rather have a rehabbing Fitz. After watching Newton play us twice last season, he's done like dinner. He’s done as a starter. But not the worst backup for Allen and he’s worked with Dorsey before. Beane and McDermott know him very well and Seem to like him. Just saying, if Mitch got moved, it wouldn’t shock me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 40 minutes ago, mannc said: But I’m pretty sure we get a decent comp pick if Mitch signs a nice deal somewhere else after the season, so why trade him for a 3d or 4th round pick now?  I don't think he gets traded for a pick.  He gets traded if we can get what Beane thinks is a missing piece for this season, to a team that believes Trubisky is a missing piece they need this season.  1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s done as a starter. But not the worst backup for Allen and he’s worked with Dorsey before. Beane and McDermott know him very well and Seem to like him. Just saying, if Mitch got moved, it wouldn’t shock me.  I don't like the move in terms of locker room chemistry (Cam I mean). Or Fitz, for that matter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzonzo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:  Yikes. You do know the Fitz cycle....that scares the crap out me we need JA17 healthy I would prefer Heineken as part of the trade   At least he doesn't have a curse attached to him  Before Fitz sets foot on One Bills Drive Josh would have to be bathed in holy water. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Mitch for Cam...   😂  / Thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:  I don't think he gets traded for a pick.  He gets traded if we can get what Beane thinks is a missing piece for this season, to a team that believes Trubisky is a missing piece they need this season.   I don't like the move in terms of locker room chemistry (Cam I mean). Or Fitz, for that matter.  I would much rather have Fitz than Cam as a backup, Fitz cycle aside. Cam is toast. RFP would be fine in the locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 47 minutes ago, mannc said: But I’m pretty sure we get a decent comp pick if Mitch signs a nice deal somewhere else after the season, so why trade him for a 3d or 4th round pick now? He'd need to get at least $15 mil per year, maybe $20 mil per year to net us a 3rd round pick. I don't really see it unless Allen gets hurt and Trubisky steps in and flourishes. Not impossible, but I think it's probably more likely that whatever contract he signs positions us for a 5th or 6th round comp pick (and maybe doesn't generate a pick at all depending on what we do in the offseason).  Having said that, I think he's probably worth keeping around unless we're offered a 1st or 2nd round pick which would shock the hell out of me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrSarcasm said: No team in their right mind would give up a 1st or 2nd to rent a player for a half season. With that being said, the Saints should be calling right now for Trubisky and offering a 3rd rounder. yeah I can see this as an offer and just as quickly Beane saying no thanks. I don't think its compensation enough...even though for Trubiskys sake he getting a startig gig wouldnt suck. But he will get that next year anyway right? Renta QB for a backup going into a possible super bowl run? I love the frank reich analogy....Any team that wants Trubisky better pay out the wazoo or no deal. jmo  m Edited November 2, 2021 by Muppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, DCOrange said: He'd need to get at least $15 mil per year, maybe $20 mil per year to net us a 3rd round pick. I don't really see it unless Allen gets hurt and Trubisky steps in and flourishes. Not impossible, but I think it's probably more likely that whatever contract he signs positions us for a 5th or 6th round comp pick (and maybe doesn't generate a pick at all depending on what we do in the offseason).  Having said that, I think he's probably worth keeping around unless we're offered a 1st or 2nd round pick which would shock the hell out of me. Week 18, anything is possible. Just ask Matt Flynn. 1 game can get qbs paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Week 18, anything is possible. Just ask Matt Flynn. 1 game can get qbs paid Like I said, it's possible, but probably very unlikely. The QBs to generate a 3rd or 4th round comp pick the last few years are Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, and Teddy Bridgewater (after he had a 5-0 record with New Orleans). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I guess I'd be kinda surprised if we actually trade Trubisky. Feel like we'd get a 4th, maybe a 3rd if we're lucky. And I'm not sure that's worth not having him around in case of an Allen absence. Â Â Yeah the Bills are only 1/3 of the way into hopefully a 20 or 21 game season...........and Allen is running the ball more than ideal and taking a good deal of hits.........I'd be hesitant to trade Trubisky. Â Â As much as another pass rusher or CB might be nice they should be looking to upgrade the interior OL first. Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:  I don't think he gets traded for a pick.  He gets traded if we can get what Beane thinks is a missing piece for this season, to a team that believes Trubisky is a missing piece they need this season.   I don't like the move in terms of locker room chemistry (Cam I mean). Or Fitz, for that matter. I wouldn’t like it either. But it wouldn’t shock me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Unless it’s a 1st, don’t do it  A 1st for Mitchell Trubisky? Not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:  A 1st for Mitchell Trubisky? Not happening. Then dont do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) I think Mitch probably has a lot of say here. He signed for way under market. Â If he likes an opportunity and wants to be traded, I think the Bills will comply if it helps us. Â Edited November 2, 2021 by BuffaloRebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I wouldn’t like it either. But it wouldn’t shock me. Trubisky is honestly the perfect back up for this team but if he is traded cam isn't a terrible option  If your back up has to play the rest of the season/playoffs your season is over with anyway no matter who your back up is  The bills are near the point where to win a super bowl you want a back up QB to be able to win 1.5 playoff games (my opinion). I think Newton is a good option for that, not because he is good or will win us the games but because he can play a style and have a set game plan ready to go mid game. He gets into the game you go ball control, power sets QB run runs, short passes and you try to win the game by 3pts. Like the style of play fits the rest of the team(defense&special teams)  I would much rather keep trubisky but I see the reasoning behind newton being a solid option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 He's the insurance policy against an injury to JA17...not to take his place in the playoffs, but to get us to the playoffs. But if you dont think he gets us through a limited injury spell, then trade him, if you believe he can, keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Why is this a thing if the story doesn’t exist?  EDIT.  if for of Edited November 2, 2021 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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