Dion Dawkins “not close to where he needs to be to help us”

[YoloinOhio]

Officially worried. throwback Chicken Little avatar incoming?

 

 

[MasterStrategist]

Was it ever confirmed he had COVID, or just close contact?

 

Dion still has a few weeks to get back in football shape and start week 1.

 

If he's not taking 1st or 2nd team reps by end of next week, I'll be worried then

[NickelCity]

I am not close to feeling great about our veteran tackle depth. 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said:

Was it ever confirmed he had COVID, or just close contact?

 

Dion still has a few weeks to get back in football shape and start week 1.

 

If he's not taking 1st or 2nd team reps by end of next week, I'll be worried then

 

He had Covid. He tested positive. Beane also told us one of the two (Dion or Ike) was unvacced. I wonder if it was Dion and he has had it worse than Ike and this is McDermott trying to send a message again. Might be reading too much into it but just a thought.

[The Dean]

I'm not all that worried about this. Missed time due to Covid and I'm thinking this is just a motivational shot across the bow of Dawkins.  Like MasterStrategist, I'll be more concerned in a couple weeks if he still isn't up to speed.

[Frat-Train]

Maybe it was leaked that he favors ranch over blue cheese?.?.?.!?!  
 

If that’s the case, I agree with coach.  He’s nowhere near close to helping us…. Or anyone else for that matter.

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He had Covid. He tested positive. Beane also told us one of the two (Dion or Ike) was unvacced. I wonder if it was Dion and he has had it worse than Ike and this is McDermott trying to send a message again. Might be reading too much into it but just a thought.

The other guy who tested positive (Boettger I think?) was back quickly. Dawkins had symptoms and I think his cardio sucks right now as a result. People reported that he looked labored while just jogging on the sidelines at camp.

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He had Covid. He tested positive. Beane also told us one of the two (Dion or Ike) was unvacced. I wonder if it was Dion and he has had it worse than Ike and this is McDermott trying to send a message again. Might be reading too much into it but just a thought.

Excellent point!  Coach was quoted later in his press conference, that it was good to have Jerry back for Spencer and Dions benefit, in addition to the defensive team.

 

I think you nailed it, Coach is always careful with his words

[LeGOATski]

3 minutes ago, The Dean said:

I'm not all that worried about this. Missed time due to Covid and I'm thinking this is just a motivational shot across the bow of Dawkins.  Like MasterStrategist, I'll be more concerned in a couple weeks if he still isn't up to speed.

I think it's all cardio and won't be surprised if he misses week 1.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Depth OT is a problem. I guess that's normal around the NFL though. 

[BADOLBILZ]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He had Covid. He tested positive. Beane also told us one of the two (Dion or Ike) was unvacced. I wonder if it was Dion and he has had it worse than Ike and this is McDermott trying to send a message again. Might be reading too much into it but just a thought.

 

 

Last week he said Dawkins situation was a "lesson for all of us" or something to that extent.........he was definitely the unvaxed.

[Coach Tuesday]

Very frustrating to hear this.

[HappyDays]

This is definitely a big concern. Some people deal with long term covid effects. If Dawkins is one of them he might not be fully conditioned for a while. I don't want Allen taking any preseason snaps at all, and until Dawkins is back I'll be nervous every snap he takes in the regular season.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Last week he said Dawkins situation was a "lesson for all of us" or something to that extent.........he was definitely the unvaxed.

 

Hmm. Yea I wonder if this "he is a long way away" is partly McDermott sending a message to the team to say if you are unvacced and you get it then you do not gey your spot back automatically. You have to earn it back. Am I mad to think that is what could be behind this?

[YoloinOhio]

10 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Was it ever confirmed he had COVID, or just close contact?

 

Dion still has a few weeks to get back in football shape and start week 1.

 

If he's not taking 1st or 2nd team reps by end of next week, I'll be worried then

Beane said that he had covid 

[MasterStrategist]

2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I think it's all cardio and won't be surprised if he misses week 1.

If he's fully recovered, which seems to be the case (hence activated), no reason Dion can't get his conditioning level back to normal in 2 weeks.  Put us at August 29th and plenty of time for week 1.

[BADOLBILZ]

31 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I think it's all cardio and won't be surprised if he misses week 1.

 

 

The opener is 4 weeks away.........he might suck week 1.........but we should all be surprised if he misses week 1.

Edited August 15, 2021 by BADOLBILZ
for accuracy, thanks Rob Riddick

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Hmm. Yea I wonder if this "he is a long way away" is partly McDermott sending a message to the team to say if you are unvacced and you get it then you do not gey your spot back automatically. You have to earn it back. Am I mad to think that is what could be behind this?

Maybe, he did say last week that if this happened during the regular season, he would miss 2-3 games 

 

 

[HappyDays]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Hmm. Yea I wonder if this "he is a long way away" is partly McDermott sending a message to the team to say if you are unvacced and you get it then you do not gey your spot back automatically. You have to earn it back. Am I mad to think that is what could be behind this?

 

No I think he means it literally. Dawkins still needs to condition his body to play NFL football. Hopefully he can get there over the next month.

[LeGOATski]

Just now, MasterStrategist said:

If he's fully recovered, which seems to be the case (hence activated), no reason Dion can't get his conditioning level back to normal in 2 weeks.  Put us at August 29th and plenty of time for week 1.

Hopefully. I'm setting my expectations low, but I'm sure they're doing everything they can and making it a priority. That ***** ***** up your lungs.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said:

If he's fully recovered, which seems to be the case (hence activated), no reason Dion can't get his conditioning level back to normal in 2 weeks.  Put us at August 29th and plenty of time for week 1.

Game shape? That’s my concern. 

[John from Riverside]

Dont like this....I dont wont Spencer playing week 1.  I think he is going to be good but dont want to test that just yet.

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The opener is 3 weeks away.........he might suck week 1.........but we should all be surprised if he misses week 1.

Pittsburgh can get after the QB.  We need him for Week 1.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

The wording makes me think Dawkins is overweight. 

[JESSEFEFFER]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He had Covid. He tested positive. Beane also told us one of the two (Dion or Ike) was unvacced. I wonder if it was Dion and he has had it worse than Ike and this is McDermott trying to send a message again. Might be reading too much into it but just a thought.

I was reading from the same script.  That's the tone I'd expect Sean to use.  Let's say Dion had more severe symptoms, lost some weight and is short of breath and fatigues easily.  That would make him far from being ready.  These guys do everything to make themselves available to play under all circumstances.  If he had a tougher time with the virus and was vaccinated, I could see why Sean would be somewhat irked and refers to it as another teachable example.

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The wording makes me think Dawkins is overweight. 

I would guess the opposite 

[RobbRiddick]

It's worrying but don't forget there's an off week between preseason game 3 and the season starting, so he has that extra week to get up to speed (I say this because I just assumed the regular season began the week after due to the 17 week schedule, didn't even check it)

[ColoradoBills]

Well if this does mean that Dion could be out for a while it seems to me you got to give Spencer Brown as much work at LT as possible.

I know it would be nice to see how he plays at RT for future swing tackle considerations but this has to take priority.

[The Dean]

12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Hmm. Yea I wonder if this "he is a long way away" is partly McDermott sending a message to the team to say if you are unvacced and you get it then you do not gey your spot back automatically. You have to earn it back. Am I mad to think that is what could be behind this?

 

 

That is my guess as well. A message to Dion and the rest of the unvaccinated.

[clayboy54]

Just paving the way for when he gets cut in a couple weeks.

[Shaw66]

24 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I think it's all cardio and won't be surprised if he misses week 1.

It's probably more than cardio.   Strength too.  Plus teamwork on the line.   

 

He has three weeks to get in shape, then a week to tune up.  Doable without bumps in the road.   Wouldn't be surprised, if he's back for the opener, to see him get an occasional series off.  

[CommonCents]

21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I would guess the opposite 

Why? I believe there was threads about him being so out of shape prior to covid. Wasn’t he seen riding a bike with a sweat vest on and people had jokes? 

 

Any recent pictures of him?

[DCbillsfan]

As we know, McD is a non nonsense coach.  He is firing a shot across the bow of Dawkins.  He has missed 2 + weeks of training camp.  He has a month to get it together.  If he starts practicing this week, I'm not worried.

[Charles Romes]

Punch to a gut given that our rookie swing tackles are looking to be red shirt material. 

[ProcessAccepted]

39 minutes ago, The Dean said:

I'm not all that worried about this. Missed time due to Covid and I'm thinking this is just a motivational shot across the bow of Dawkins.  Like MasterStrategist, I'll be more concerned in a couple weeks if he still isn't up to speed.

Covid can be a long haul recovery. Hopful this is not the case for the Shnowman. Worried that it might.

[ProcessAccepted]

29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I would guess the opposite 

Knowing some folks that have had it I'm guessing his energy levels/endurance are low. 

[clayboy54]

6 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Why? I believe there was threads about him being so out of shape prior to covid. Wasn’t he seen riding a bike with a sweat vest on and people had jokes? 

 

Any recent pictures of him?

[LyndonvilleBill]

As long as it's not Hart playing LT...🤬. Put Brown there and stick a TE next to him every play if we have to.

[MJS]

14 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

It's probably more than cardio.   Strength too.  Plus teamwork on the line.   

 

He has three weeks to get in shape, then a week to tune up.  Doable without bumps in the road.   Wouldn't be surprised, if he's back for the opener, to see him get an occasional series off.  

He's a professional. He knows what it takes to get ready. There's no reason to believe he will miss week 1. It's not like he's a rookie.

5 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said:

Covid can be a long haul recovery. Hopful this is not the case for the Shnowman. Worried that it might.

Can be, but often isn't. Kind of a roll of the dice, but most players last year got back within normal time frames. No reason yet to believe that he won't.

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

He's a professional. He knows what it takes to get ready. There's no reason to believe he will miss week 1. It's not like he's a rookie.

He's not a rookie, but being sick like that and having to get ready for the season at the same time...I'm sure that's a new situation for him. Thankfully, the Bills have a great medical/conditioning staff.