dbfla10 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Is there a player out there, that the bills could trade there 1 for that could be available? Player under 27 yrs old, that could step in right away. Similar to what the Rams have been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 No..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCBills Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Why draft a good young player on a rookie contract when you can use that pick to pay a good young player on a second contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Cars get a bit cheaper after they've been broken in. Good, young, proven veterans get more expensive, both as free agents and trade targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: Why draft a good young player on a rookie contract when you can use that pick to pay a good young player on a second contract. Get a guy that impacts immediately. Trading for a sure thing, could miss on the draft pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, dbfla10 said: Get a guy that impacts immediately. Trading for a sure thing, could miss on the draft pick. We need to hit on rookie contract guys in order to stay competitive when Josh Allen's contract hits. We can swing a Diggs trade once in a while, but that can't become a regular thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: Is there a player out there, that the bills could trade there 1 for that could be available? Player under 27 yrs old, that could step in right away. Similar to what the Rams have been doing. 32 years old, but Julio Jones can be had, would Dallas trade one of their WRs to save dollars, would Washington deal one of their DEs, are the Steelers willing to sell off any of their parts (maybe not because they are going for one last run with Ben), can you get KJ Wright to leave Seattle? My guess is, every organization looks over the rosters/salaries on other teams and thinks up possible trade scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: 32 years old, but Julio Jones can be had, would Dallas trade one of their WRs to save dollars, would Washington deal one of their DEs, are the Steelers willing to sell off any of their parts (maybe not because they are going for one last run with Ben), can you get KJ Wright to leave Seattle? My guess is, every organization looks over the rosters/salaries on other teams and thinks up possible trade scenarios. Isnt KJ Wright a FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 There are only two spots on the roster that would make sense. Edge and TE. There are only a few TE's in the league worthy of giving up a first round pick, and none of them would be traded by their respective teams. That leave edge rusher. As has been pointed out the cost of a veteran edge is substantial. They don't have the cap space to pull that off. They need to get younger on the DL. Beane just needs to make some solid moves and picks. Just come away with one additional dynamic player on offense - RB or TE and an edge rusher early and add depth at center, CB, 1-tech DT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: Is there a player out there, that the bills could trade there 1 for that could be available? Player under 27 yrs old, that could step in right away. Similar to what the Rams have been doing. Any suggestions? These threads work better if you start with some ideas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Such terrible logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, dbfla10 said: Isnt KJ Wright a FA? Yes he is, but you know what I mean. I would think if you want a proven starter, it takes combing through rosters/salary cap numbers and seeing if there are trades that can be made. The Falcons have a new Coach and up against the salary cap, maybe after tonight they are starting a full rebuild, or one last run with Matt Ryan, maybe some of their talent might be on the block. The Eagles are former contender, do they give up a Brandon Graham for instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Teef says no.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Such terrible logic Terrible logic? drafting at 30 the bills are drafting a 2nd round pick UNLESS they get lucky and a guy on their board falls to them. Any given yr teams usually only have 15-20 guys with 1st round grades. IF the bills can trade for a guy with immediate impact it is well worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 This is where JJ Watt was a miss. It's not on the Bills if he didn't want to come here, but you're talking about difference makers, and there have been a few of those names dangled this offseason. Maybe the Browns would come off a Tight End, almost certainly that TE would be Njoku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: Is there a player out there, that the bills could trade there 1 for that could be available? Player under 27 yrs old, that could step in right away. Similar to what the Rams have been doing. Yes, McCaffrey or Kupp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: Terrible logic? drafting at 30 the bills are drafting a 2nd round pick UNLESS they get lucky and a guy on their board falls to them. Any given yr teams usually only have 15-20 guys with 1st round grades. IF the bills can trade for a guy with immediate impact it is well worth it. How much spare money have they got to pay this proven performer they are trading for? We know Beane doesn’t like kicking the can down the road salary cap wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Khalil Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Such terrible logic Worked for us last season 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 58 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: Is there a player out there, that the bills could trade there 1 for that could be available? Player under 27 yrs old, that could step in right away. Similar to what the Rams have been doing. 1. no 2. as others have pointed out and Beane himself has said - we need to start relying on cost-controlled labor ie draft picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Khalil Mack perhaps, but he’s 30-31 years old at this point. Even if we gave up a 1 for him I’d want at least a 3rd back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 hours ago, SCBills said: We need to hit on rookie contract guys in order to stay competitive when Josh Allen's contract hits. We can swing a Diggs trade once in a while, but that can't become a regular thing. If there genuinely was a Diggs level talent as a pass rusher hitting the market that could be had for a similar package I would be all for doing such a trade. However there just wasn't that player on the market. Sometimes your needs and what is on the market don't align and you have to try and take a chance in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: If there genuinely was a Diggs level talent as a pass rusher hitting the market that could be had for a similar package I would be all for doing such a trade. However there just wasn't that player on the market. Sometimes your needs and what is on the market don't align and you have to try and take a chance in the draft. I would actually agree with this. 99% chance this would never happen, but if Chicago needed more draft ammo to trade up with Atlanta - I'd be willing to check in on Khalil Mack knowing he can't be involved in a trade with ATL due to their cap constraints. But i'm only doing that for elite players. Edited April 29, 2021 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 Is Dante Fowler worth the risk? Personally i dont think so, but the falcons are in much need of cap space. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 What ever happened to all that Hunter (MIN - DE) chatter? We traded, among other things, a 1st to them last year for a vet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 hours ago, dbfla10 said: Is there a player out there, that the bills could trade there 1 for that could be available? Player under 27 yrs old, that could step in right away. Similar to what the Rams have been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 can't wait for the draft to start.....if only to end these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Love this idea, not sure who is out there that fits the young, proven player for pick 30? 3 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Khalil Mack perhaps, but he’s 30-31 years old at this point. Even if we gave up a 1 for him I’d want at least a 3rd back. I'd trade a 1st for Mack. I think he has 3-4 years left of elite production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 hours ago, SCBills said: I would actually agree with this. 99% chance this would never happen, but if Chicago needed more draft ammo to trade up with Atlanta - I'd be willing to check in on Khalil Mack knowing he can't be involved in a trade with ATL due to their cap constraints. But i'm only doing that for elite players. Chicago just redid Mack's deal which makes him impossible to trade. I would have explored that possibility too as a Mack type pass rusher would have been a big help to the defense. But once again the market isn't aligning to help the Bills at this point. 16 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Love this idea, not sure who is out there that fits the young, proven player for pick 30? I'd trade a 1st for Mack. I think he has 3-4 years left of elite production. Even if Mack has 2 years left of elite production I would trade pick 30 for that. The Bills window to win is now and having an elite pass rusher is what this team is missing filling that hole for 2 years would be worth the 30th pick in a so/so draft for a college football year that was a full on Covid-19 season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 9 hours ago, dbfla10 said: Get a guy that impacts immediately. Trading for a sure thing, could miss on the draft pick. value of a trading for a 1st for established p,ayer— buyer beware. Many nfl players are products of system the play. Stats do t factor in teammate br efit. i e seen too many trades of player for 1st and player busted. let’s not forget cap space...buffalo has none other than the slot where their picks are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 If it’s for George Kittle, I’m in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Think it depends on the position. IMO RB and CB are two positions that a rookie can come in and contribute right away and be pretty effective at it. So if you were going to draft one of those positions, I'd say no, take the rookie. Other positions like Edge, TE have longer learning curve so may be worth it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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