whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said: Once again, no need for personal insults. Would you slow down if acknowledged the fact that you are a really tough guy? I will do it if this is what you want. I guess it shpould happen at least once in all of our lifetimes. So, here it goes: You are a TOUGH GUY!!! 😁😃😄 Bill, you seem like a fine gent who has all his marbles firmly in place and is never in asinine arguments with respected posters on this board in which you look like an idiot. I hope you have a beautiful day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Bill, you seem like a fine gent who has all his marbles firmly in place and is never in asinine arguments with respected posters on this board in which you look like an idiot. I hope you have a beautiful day. Likewise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: It’s a lawsuit about what we have no clue. It could be as simple as he said something she was offended by and feels this is a way make a big payday. (It could also be very serious but we don’t know yet and I’m a firm believer in seeing proof before guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Agree ...wait for more info. Tweet from Lawyer seems ranty, unhinged, and unprofessional. My gut tells me this is garbage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: File a sexual assault suit against him? I mean the Texans are a mess but that’s taking things a bit far Do you not watch Flack? Seriously, though, yeah, that would be way over-the-top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 9 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: There’s also this. A neighbor of Bob and Cal McNair? You don’t say? Tony Buzbee?!?! Poor Deshaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 We’re assuming this is fake since it came from some Qanon guy? Any of it been confirmed? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Boxcar said: Journalism in 2021: I love journalism in 2021. Instagram post from shady lawyer comes across desk, no need for investigation, just blow it up on Twitter. Also, pardon my ignorance, but isn't sexual assault a crime that would involve...police? And not just a civil suit? Really! What is this Albright dude thinking? No one cares if anything is true anymore. We really need some new social media laws on the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Is this the bombshell that the Cheaters were supposed to be dropping today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemfield2622 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Word is this lawsuit is on behalf of a masseuse. Evidently Watson requested a happy ending. There are no claims he touched the masseuse at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Clemfield2622 said: Word is this lawsuit is on behalf of a masseuse. Evidently Watson requested a happy ending. There are no claims he touched the masseuse at all. Who knew Deshaun Watson and Robbert Kraft have so much in common.. Maybe a trade to new England is next 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 With the timing of this, it looks like a someone is trying to lower his stock. Might work and lower the asking price by the Texans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 10 hours ago, InEnemyTerritory said: Definitely the McNairs using it as an excuse to the fans as to why they'll trade Watson. Pretty low. I expected them to wait at least a year before cracking. Stuff like this puzzles the ***** out of me. We don't know a thing right now beyond that the lawyer put out a "flex" instagram that had more details about him than about the lawsuit allegedly filed, that someone tweeted out the complaint involved a masseur or massage therapist, and that Watson denies it and says he was contacted with a settlement demand prior to the suit being filed, he hasn't seen it yet, and he's done nothing wrong. Oh, and the lawyer is apparently a neighbor of the McNairs (which could mean he's at outs with 'em). Yet here comes someone who "Definitely" knows what it's about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: It’s a lawsuit about what we have no clue. It could be as simple as he said something she was offended by and feels this is a way make a big payday. (It could also be very serious but we don’t know yet and I’m a firm believer in seeing proof before guilt. Especially if you’re interested in trading for him. 😜 2 hours ago, Frat-Train said: Matt Damon is a NATIONAL TREASURE!!!! Agree. lets bury him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Boxcar said: Journalism in 2021: I love journalism in 2021. Instagram post from shady lawyer comes across desk, no need for investigation, just blow it up on Twitter. Also, pardon my ignorance, but isn't sexual assault a crime that would involve...police? And not just a civil suit? To the former: I'm not trying to defend journalists as "lilly white" but once something is out on social media, it does get news coverage. To the latter: It can be, but people file lawsuits all the time over misconduct where either criminal investigation was not sought, or criminal investigation took place but for one or another reason criminal charges not filed. The standard of proof is different and it removes the filter of whether or not the prosecutor can maintain his/her "win record" with the case. 5 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Good point. An NFL player never has and never will abuse any woman but if they did, the "timing" would have to be just right. Oh, c'mon Bill. Put the safety back on the sarcasm projector. We all know that the timing of a lawsuit filing and the timing of any action on which the lawsuit is based aren't correlated. 5 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Not sure what you mean by this. Joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 At this point all we can do is sit and wait for details to emerge. No form of of sexual harassment should be taken lightly. That goes without saying. On the flip side, no allegations should ever be made without substantial evidence. We can't just generalize cases like this. I guess we'll see how this one pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 So...he asked for a happy ending, didn’t get one and didn’t touch her? 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well this is pretty simple. Either she has these messages or she doesn't. If the law suit goes to court we will know. if Watson settles out of court we will know the truth and if she drops the case then we will know she was lying... Now they will let the process play out but either way this is a blow to Watson. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 11 hours ago, whatdrought said: Oof.... my first instinct is to call bs. Watson has been nothing but a standup guy going back to Clemson - from everything I’ve ever seen. My second instinct is to say: who the hell would be surprised if the Texans (specifically Easterbe) was doing something to try and sully Watson’s name? With what we’ve heard that seems perfectly on brand. My third instinct is to say - dang. This’ll be interesting. really my third is my first. My immediate first thought, and exactly what this feels like. Especially after reading that entire "announcement" which was a lot of blabber about the lawyer and his family, with no substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: Is “from what I’ve seen” a hard grouping of words to understand?... I thought I was being clear, but I guess not “Mr. WEO” clear. Forgive me. This team we’re talking about is the one that’s been accused of having their players followed and has made some of the stupidest decisions ever in the past several years. Is anything truly off the table? You were clearly fabricating an opinion based on no more insight or info than any of us here have. You know nothing about this guy. That was pretty clear. Trading away Clowney and Hopkins is pretty much the same as hiring a woman to fabricate a sexual assault story so she could then hired a lawyer to file a suit in order to tarnish a QB they have under contract. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 43 minutes ago, wppete said: Who knew Deshaun Watson and Robbert Kraft have so much in common.. Maybe a trade to new England is next 😂 There is no need to poke the WEO bear, he is already awake and active in this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 i rule nothing out, him trying to get a handy isn't exactly ken winslow jr type deviance, and houston trying to strike out at him isn't impossible. that said, if houston is doing this, it will totally poison the well with him, and quite possible other players as well. maybe there is a morality clause in the contract, and they just want to get out of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: There is no need to poke the WEO bear, he is already awake and active in this thread. WEO Bear? I don't get it.. what is a WEO Bear? Edited March 17, 2021 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You were clearly fabricating an opinion based on no more insight or info than any of us here have. You know nothing about this guy. That was pretty clear. Trading away Clowney and Hopkins is pretty much the same as hiring a woman to fabricate a sexual assault story so she could then hired a lawyer to file a suit in order to tarnish a QB they have under contract. Good point. in what way was it not clear that I was fabricating an opinion?... I said “From everything I’ve seen.” Don’t be idiotic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, wppete said: WEO Bear? I don't get it.. what is a WEO Bear? You better hope it's not like Creasy Bear or s*** is going down. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, wppete said: Well this is pretty simple. Either she has these messages or she doesn't. If the law suit goes to court we will know. if Watson settles out of court we will know the truth and if she drops the case then we will know she was lying... Now they will let the process play out but either way this is a blow to Watson. Horrible. At face value, this isn't even close to sexual assault. The continuous use of the word "masseuse" is also throwing me off, because massage therapists and masseuses are different things. There's also really only one area that isn't potentially touched by an RMT, so if she was asked to massage his ass, that's completely legit. My god, even assuming all this is true, him asking for the lady to jerk him off is worth a six figure settlement?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, H2o said: You better hope it's not like Creasy Bear or s*** is going down. Hahaha I really don't know what this means but sounds funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, H2o said: You better hope it's not like Creasy Bear or s*** is going down. I'm well groomed. That was one of the best revenge movies ever! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, wppete said: Hahaha I really don't know what this means but sounds funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I think Houston will use this to trade Watson and ease the local blow back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, whatdrought said: in what way was it not clear that I was fabricating an opinion?... I said “From everything I’ve seen.” Don’t be idiotic. You've seen nothing unique regarding Watson to allow you to speculate that the team may be creating this story. You fabricated a clean past for him and went from there. 4 minutes ago, Boxcar said: At face value, this isn't even close to sexual assault. The continuous use of the word "masseuse" is also throwing me off, because massage therapists and masseuses are different things. There's also really only one area that isn't potentially touched by an RMT, so if she was asked to massage his ass, that's completely legit. My god, even assuming all this is true, him asking for the lady to jerk him off is worth a six figure settlement?! If he's in Florida, walking into the situation with $100 bill is considered sufficient, and business as usual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, wppete said: Well this is pretty simple. Either she has these messages or she doesn't. If the law suit goes to court we will know. if Watson settles out of court we will know the truth and if she drops the case then we will know she was lying... Now they will let the process play out but either way this is a blow to Watson. Horrible. Sorry but you could be further from reality, that is NOT the way lawsuits work. If Watson settles it might just mean instead of spending hours/days in discovery & court and a $100,000 legal bill he pays here lawyer $50k to go away. And no if she drops it doesnt mean she was lying, maybe she doesnt want to relieve the experience in public. And for both of them to make it go away may have nothing to do with this particular incident but they might be fearful of what the other side might find out in discovery and what the press would do with it, a lot of people have skeletons in the closet they dont want opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Sorry but you could be further from reality, that is NOT the way lawsuits work. If Watson settles it might just mean instead of spending hours/days in discovery & court and a $100,000 legal bill he pays here lawyer $50k to go away. And no if she drops it doesnt mean she was lying, maybe she doesnt want to relieve the experience in public. And for both of them to make it go away may have nothing to do with this particular incident but they might be fearful of what the other side might find out in discovery and what the press would do with it, a lot of people have skeletons in the closet they dont want opened. Don't think so.. If Watson settles in the majority of the publics eyes he is guilty.. We have seen this many times with public figures.. If he stands by his statement from last night he would want to clear his name and not settle and make it go away. just my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Sounds like the real issue here is that Watson was unaware of Orchids of Asia. A trade to the Patriots could enlighten him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You've seen nothing unique regarding Watson to allow you to speculate that the team may be creating this story. You fabricated a clean past for him and went from there. Are you this obtuse? I mean, I know you’re one of “those posters” but seriously - try to grasp the English language before using it for debate. In my original post I made three statements regarding the situation. The first was the fact that Watson has a clean reputation. This is based on public knowledge and isn’t up for debate. It’s true. It’s a fact. Nothing like this has ever happened before and everything you read about him says he’s a stand up guy. My take on Watson as a person has nothing to do with my other statement that I wouldn’t be shocked if this was some crazy thing made up by the team- the team that has been accused of having their players followed, which is completely unprecedented. What’s one more crazy entry. You’re acting like I claimed first hand knowledge of watson or the situation, while anyone with a 2nd grade reading comprehension level can tell from my original post that I clearly did not. again, don’t be stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: Sounds like the real issue here is that Watson was unaware of Orchids of Asia. A trade to the Patriots could enlighten him. Winner!!!! Post of the day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Don't think so.. If Watson settles in the majority of the publics eyes he is guilty.. We have seen this many times with public figures.. If he stands by his statement from last night he would want to clear his name and not settle and make it go away. just my opinion... Nice try but no. You wrote if Watson settles "we will know the truth", now you change it to "publics eyes he is guilty", that is a huge difference. Public perception versus whether or not has is lying. And those are YOUR assumptions about the public perception, sounds like that is yours and I already stated why he might not want to spend the time and money to "clear his name". A trial could turn into a media hanging circus with every girlfriend or and lady Watson has ever interatecd with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Nice try but no. You wrote if Watson settles "we will know the truth", now you change it to "publics eyes he is guilty", that is a huge difference. Public perception versus whether or not has is lying. And those are YOUR assumptions about the public perception, sounds like that is yours and I already stated why he might not want to spend the time and money to "clear his name". A trial could turn into a media hanging circus with every girlfriend or and lady Watson has ever interatecd with. Nonsense... if he is guilty or settles and doesn't clear his name then he is done... We have seen it with countless public figures over the last few years... Its a new world like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, wppete said: Nonsense... if he is guilty or settles and doesn't clear his name then he is done... We have seen it with countless public figures over the last few years... Its a new world like it or not. LOL. You fail to understand that a civil case is as much an economic decision as anything else. Settling out of court is NOT an admission of guilt. And no settling out of court and not "clearing his name" doesnt mean "he is done", whatever crap that means. Yea no team will sign him, do i have the right? He settles out of court quickly and this will be nothing more than a trivia question on his wikipedia page. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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