Boxcar Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Journalism in 2021: 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: No details No information at all What timing I love journalism in 2021. Instagram post from shady lawyer comes across desk, no need for investigation, just blow it up on Twitter. Also, pardon my ignorance, but isn't sexual assault a crime that would involve...police? And not just a civil suit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Boxcar said: Journalism in 2021: I love journalism in 2021. Instagram post from shady lawyer comes across desk, no need for investigation, just blow it up on Twitter. Also, pardon my ignorance, but isn't sexual assault a crime that would involve...police? And not just a civil suit? how can you blame journalists when it was the plaintiff’s attorney that announced this suit via a crazy facebook post implicating a famous pro athlete? A lack of criminal investigation or charges does not preclude someone from filing a civil suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: how can you blame journalists when it was the plaintiff’s attorney that announced this suit via a crazy facebook post implicating a famous pro athlete? A lack of criminal investigation or charges does not preclude someone from filing a civil suit. If this was about seeking justice, why the hell would there be no criminal charges or allegations? Just a civil suit for money? Doesn't smell right. Also, a masseuse is someone at a rub n' tug. My sister is an RMT and they don't tolerate being called masseuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 This is a lot of conjecture with no details or proof. I'm not going to believe a rambling bizarre tweet at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Boxcar said: If this was about seeking justice, why the hell would there be no criminal charges or allegations? Just a civil suit for money? Doesn't smell right. Also, a masseuse is someone at a rub n' tug. My sister is an RMT and they don't tolerate being called masseuses. well no one ever said it was about justice. Only point is “journalists” don’t work en masse in some secret cabal and decide when something is or isn’t covered. When the lawyer put that out someone was going to pick it up and run it. After that happens everyone else, regardless of the merits of the claim, is going to report it. If you think it’s bogus then blame the attorney for the accuser, not the reporters. I know the difference between RMTs and sex workers and don’t have anything against either of them. Not sure what the heck you’re talking about there but carry on I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I don't believe it. "I represent those.." blah, blah, blah. In reality it's "I've got a case I'm filing against an NFL Superstar and I'm going to milk this mf'er for every dime and ounce of publicity I can get." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, whatdrought said: The timing on this is almost too much to even begin to believe... Good point. An NFL player never has and never will abuse any woman but if they did, the "timing" would have to be just right. 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: LOL I think that's thrown in there because Texas. Not sure what you mean by this. Edited March 17, 2021 by Bill from NYC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 5 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: Pick your option. 1. Watson making up the lawsuit to get himself out of Houston either via cutting or traded (which helps damage the Houston owners in the process because they get little value in return). 2. Another team is making up the lawsuit to lower Watson’s value to the point Houston either cuts him, or they can come in with a low offer (helps this team acquire Watson for “cheap” ). 3. Houston is making up the lawsuit to lower Watson’s value to the point no other team becomes interested and Watson stays with the team until the contract is finished ( I don’t see this as being the case, because why would they damage his value as to possibly get nothing in return for their investment). 4. Watson didn’t do anything and is getting slandered by some crazy woman/lawyer. Which hurts Watson and really every party involved except for some team willing to deal with the allegations. 5. Watson did something and possibly hurt his career. Option 6. Watson did something and hurt an innocent woman. Ya know it IS posible, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 To me this is a wait and see. What if he really hurt a girl? What if the attorney is trying to fleece him for $? Why Arent the police involved? I have no answers so I’ll wait and let the police and courts work it out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 This is definitely a wait and see situation , Watson has the image of a stand up guy but you never know anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 6 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: What? So he ends up getting cut and goes to NE in free agency? The timeline for the next 6 months: Month 1 - Allegations come out, and have enough merit to go to court Month 2 - Texans support Watson and tell all to wait and let the justice system do its thing Month 3 - NFL investigates and decides to suspend him indefinately Month 4 - Texans finally release him Month 5 - Sign with NE Month 6 - Settles suit out of court, cleared legally, and NFL lifts suspension just in time for him to start opening weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I’ll wait for this to shake out before coming to judgement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Grid Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 This might end the NE trade / acquisition fever. After all if there’s one owner who needs to stay FAR away from and rub and tug headlines.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I'm not a huge fan of Watsons attempt to force his way out after signing a long term deal so recently. This situation though? Hard to believe. I suppose anyone can make a horrendous mistake, it doesn't say what he did. The idea that the Texans have something to do with this lawsuit seems silly. It greatly gums up any compensation they could get and would essentially make the owner lose the team (literally, like he can't be an nfl owner anymore) so that seems unfathomable. At least I hope that's not what happened. With all that said Watson always seemed like a stand up community guy, if he's guilty of this I would be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLP Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 hours ago, whatdrought said: Oof.... my first instinct is to call bs. Watson has been nothing but a standup guy going back to Clemson - from everything I’ve ever seen. My second instinct is to say: who the hell would be surprised if the Texans (specifically Easterbe) was doing something to try and sully Watson’s name? With what we’ve heard that seems perfectly on brand. My third instinct is to say - dang. This’ll be interesting. really my third is my first. Could the Texans void is contract for behavior detrimental to the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Process said: What a story that would be. Not feasible for that purpose. Will be investigated by the league. If false , life goes on and Texans won’t release an innocent person. If guilty, no one will touch him until it’s over as league susoensions will be pending and trade impossible. No one in their right mind during this me too culture concocts something damaging to a reputation like this just to get released. Loss of all sponsorships etc and it’s impossible to be seen the same or fully recover a reputation. I have learned to distrust law firms who will do anything to make money on others pain, so releasing something during a high profile time period for the NFL would not be beyond belief, but this seems like a strange way / reach etc to announce something as grave as sexual assault charges. Why announce a case before filing which would become public quickly.any how? Seems very strange , unethical type behavior. But as I said, almost nothing done by firms with possible large recoveries involved would completely shock me these days. I certainly see no possible way Watsons management would ever be an instigator because backlash would be impossible to overcome.if that’s what you are theorizing. Will see the truth soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Why would the Texans want to tank his trade value? I wouldn’t presume to think wise decision making is coming from that organization now. It doesn’t make any sense, unless they’re pissed, and trying to get revenge, or they’re trying to dry up the market so they can’t be forced to trade him. Probably unlikely, but this is the team that’s recently been accused of having their players followed, so who the heck knows. 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Good point. An NFL player never has and never will abuse any woman but if they did, the "timing" would have to be just right? I see comprehension is still difficult for you. I’m not surprised. If you find the timing of this suit being filed as completely coincidental, I have a bridge for sale in your neck of the words you might be interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Gotta love the people who don't use return button in a post. It looks like a rambling post most typically found on sports message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: No details No information at all What timing I know, saw this right before I went to bed. The timing is impeccable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 This has the same smell that the Shady lawsuit had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Good journalism there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said: It's all one's personal perception. A man can say he placed a hand on a woman's knee. A woman can say she was groped. Andrew? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 8 hours ago, whatdrought said: Oof.... my first instinct is to call bs. Watson has been nothing but a standup guy going back to Clemson - from everything I’ve ever seen. My second instinct is to say: who the hell would be surprised if the Texans (specifically Easterbe) was doing something to try and sully Watson’s name? With what we’ve heard that seems perfectly on brand. My third instinct is to say - dang. This’ll be interesting. really my third is my first. I'm guessing you know nothing about him, so take #1 off your list. Your #2 seems beyond far fetched. The team conjuring up a sexual assault allegation with a lawyer and lawsuit (and a victim)? Yeah that happens all the time... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: I wouldn’t presume to think wise decision making is coming from that organization now. It doesn’t make any sense, unless they’re pissed, and trying to get revenge, or they’re trying to dry up the market so they can’t be forced to trade him. Probably unlikely, but this is the team that’s recently been accused of having their players followed, so who the heck knows. I see comprehension is still difficult for you. I’m not surprised. If you find the timing of this suit being filed as completely coincidental, I have a bridge for sale in your neck of the words you might be interested in. No need for personal insults, is there? Are you trying to prove that you are a tough guy? Edited March 17, 2021 by Bill from NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 The nature of the papers will tell us a little about this case. I'm curious if they're (the Texas equivalent) of verified, which essentially means that the attorney is swearing to the veracity of the contents. Also, FWIW, around here nobody who is credible would bring a case like this without subjecting their client to a polygraph. Not sure if it's the same practice down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: The nature of the papers will tell us a little about this case. I'm curious if they're (the Texas equivalent) of verified, which essentially means that the attorney is swearing to the veracity of the contents. Also, FWIW, around here nobody who is credible would bring a case like this without subjecting their client to a polygraph. Not sure if it's the same practice down there. True. Lawyers in most states won't take on a client who is lying about his innocence....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I'm guessing you know nothing about him, so take #1 off your list. Your #2 seems beyond far fetched. The team conjuring up a sexual assault allegation with a lawyer and lawsuit (and a victim)? Yeah that happens all the time... WEO...I think if you are naive enough to think that a professional sports team has never employed fixers to establish relationships with shady lawyers to concoct stories about high profile football players in a very public contract dispute suggesting sexual misconduct with a comely masseuse in an effort to destroy the player, his reputation, trade value and availability at game time, well I’m guessing you’ve never seen a Matt Damon movie. Know this: Life imitates art. Not always, but sometimes. Consider. Oh, and masseuse...it’s hard to spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: WEO...I think if you are naive enough to think that a professional sports team has never employed fixers to establish relationships with shady lawyers to concoct stories about high profile football players in a very public contract dispute suggesting sexual misconduct with a comely masseuse in an effort to destroy the player, his reputation, trade value and availability at game time, well I’m guessing you’ve never seen a Matt Damon movie. Know this: Life imitates art. Not always, but sometimes. Consider. Oh, and masseuse...it’s hard to spell. Did you just allege my naiveté based on your experience and conclusions from having watched Matt Damon movies? I love this place! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Did you just allege my naiveté based on your experience and conclusions from having watched Matt Damon movies? I love this place! Matt Damon is a NATIONAL TREASURE!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Lmao we really in here believing that it’s less likely an NFL player abused a woman than it is that his team paid a woman to make up an accusation 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Frat-Train said: Matt Damon is a NATIONAL TREASURE!!!! GMs and team Presidents, not to mention every owner study his films at every annual owners meeting (while we all think they are debating new overtime rules) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, Mr. WEO said: GMs and team Presidents, not to mention every owner study his films at every annual owners meeting (while we all think they are debating new overtime rules) He’s the rainmaker! And theater Loki! They could do a lot worse. Like Affleck. Gross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: GMs and team Presidents, not to mention every owner study his films at every annual owners meeting (while we all think they are debating new overtime rules) Bad news everybody. Multiple WEO posts in short spans like this usually involve the Patriots. I think we had better brace ourselves for the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: True. Lawyers in most states won't take on a client who is lying about his innocence....... Even considering the early hour, this is a particularly stupid comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 This is probly the Texans coach doing a media stunt to make him un tradeable so he has no choice but to play for Houston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Did you just allege my naiveté based on your experience and conclusions from having watched Matt Damon movies? I love this place! I was going to with Ray Donovan but not everyone has Showtime. Everyone has seen a Matt Damon movie, or at least his appearance on Will and Grace. Disclaimer: I have have not seen the movie where he bought a zoo. That seemed far-fetched to me. 10 minutes ago, Frat-Train said: Matt Damon is a NATIONAL TREASURE!!!! That’s all I was saying. I just used more words. Edited March 17, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Even considering the early hour, this is a particularly stupid comment. Oh I can bring it 24 hours a day, so don't be so easily impressed. But anyway, sure, if she "passes" a polygraph, she's got to be telling the truth. So only then would any lawyer take such a case. 11 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I was going to with Ray Donovan but not everyone has Showtime. Everyone has seen a Matt Damon movie, or at least his appearance on Will and Grace. Disclaimer: I have have not seen the movie where he bought a zoo. That seemed far-fetched to me. That’s all I was saying. I just used more words. I bought one after seeing that screen gem, so....nope. Edited March 17, 2021 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I'm guessing you know nothing about him, so take #1 off your list. Your #2 seems beyond far fetched. The team conjuring up a sexual assault allegation with a lawyer and lawsuit (and a victim)? Yeah that happens all the time... Is “from what I’ve seen” a hard grouping of words to understand?... I thought I was being clear, but I guess not “Mr. WEO” clear. Forgive me. This team we’re talking about is the one that’s been accused of having their players followed and has made some of the stupidest decisions ever in the past several years. Is anything truly off the table? 50 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: No need for personal insults, is there? Are you trying to prove that you are a tough guy? Lol. Step 1: start by responding to a perfectly reasonable comment with moral outrage. Step 2: get flamed for being stupid. Step 3: “woah buddy! Relax!” Edited March 17, 2021 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 9 hours ago, CNYfan said: Texans are wishing they had taken those calls. True, true... But, think about it: Were Watson to be charged with something heinous, in Houston, he'd be done. Outta the league. Gonzo. Yesterday's washed-up, dog-pissed-on news. However, if whatever did or did not happen, happened AFTER the Pat******s pick him up, why it would all be so conveniently and convivially swept under the rug. After all, he would be a true Patriot (for a matter of weeks)... An acolyte of The Patriot Way... An American, and a great one at that. He would have been purged of sins and immersion-baptized in the milk from the very teat of Robber Graft, Himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Is “from what I’ve seen” a hard grouping of words to understand?... I thought I was being clear, but I guess not “Mr. WEO” clear. Forgive me. This team we’re talking about is the one that’s been accused of having their players followed and has made some of the stupidest decisions ever in the past several years. Is anything truly off the table? Lol. Step 1: start by responding to a perfectly reasonable comment with moral outrage. Step 2: get flamed for being stupid. Step 3: “woah buddy! Relax!” Once again, no need for personal insults. Would you slow down if I acknowledged the fact that you really are a tough guy? I will do it if this is what you want. I guess it should happen at least once in all of our lifetimes. So, here it goes: You are a TOUGH GUY!!! 😁😃😄 Edited March 17, 2021 by Bill from NYC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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