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Available young free agent DL, who should the Bills choose?


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  1. 1. Which 2 should they choose

    • Yannick Ngakoue, Edge, (26) 4 years, $70 million ($17.5M APY): $40 million total guaranteed, $30 million fully guaranteed at signing
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    • Carl Lawson, Edge, (26) 4 years, $52 million ($13M APY): $30 million total guaranteed, $17.5 million fully guaranteed at signing
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    • Trey Hendrickson, Edge, (26) 4 years, $45 million ($11.25M APY): $25 million total guaranteed, $20 million fully guaranteed at signing
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    • Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, (27) 4 years, $52 million ($13M APY): $26.5 million total guaranteed, $16.5 million fully guaranteed at signing
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    • Jadeveon Clowney, Edge, (28) 1 year, $12 million, fully guaranteed at signing
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    • Romeo Okwara, Edge, (26) 3 years, $19.5 million ($6.5M APY): $10M total guaranteed, $7 million fully guaranteed at signing
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    • Larry Ogunjobi, DT, (27) 3 years, $7.5 million, $3 million total guaranteed
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    • Dawuane Smoot, Edge, (26) 2 years, $12.5 million ($6.25M APY): $6M total guaranteed, $3 million fully guaranteed at signing
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    • Davon Godchaux, DT, (26) 3 years, $16.5 million ($5.5M APY): $7M total guaranteed, $4 million fully guaranteed at signing
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    • Takkarist McKinley, (25) 3 years, $28.5 million ($9.5M APY): $18 million total guaranteed, $7.5 million fully guaranteed at signing
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    • D.J. Jones, DT, (26) 4 years, $10 million ($2.5M APY): $4 million total guaranteed, $2 million fully guaranteed at signing
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    • Charles Harris, Edge, (26) 2 years, $9.5 million ($4.75M APY): $3M total guaranteed, $1 million fully guaranteed at signing
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So we lost out on Watt but there's some interesting young free agents that we can have and build around for several years.  I read a PFF article about all the upcoming free agents and the prospective landing places with their projected contracts.  I grabbed only the DL players that were 27 or less with the exception of Clowney.  And for some not listed in the article found other references with the projected contracts.   So channeling your inner Beane which 2 do you try to sign??  For me I choose Carl Lawson and Davon Godchaux

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DJ Jones was totally underated in SF SuperBowl run, last year had a down year maybe because injuries that sidelined him 3-4 games the year before and he never recovered (don't really know)

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If they could get Lawson that would be a huge win. I remember him in college and he's a freak. With coaches that put him in good situations he would be scary good.

 

Just because of cap reasons and the team needing to keep flexibility I wouldn't care to pay anyone 17/18m a year.

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19 minutes ago, poblano said:

DJ Jones was totally underated in SF SuperBowl run, last year had a down year maybe because injuries that sidelined him 3-4 games the year before and he never recovered (don't really know)

I agree, I was talking with a 49ers fan yesterday and they said he was one of their fav players and called him a beast. Some injury concerns but worth it for so cheap.

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Romeo Okwara is one on that list that really sticks out to me.  Former UDFA fro Notre Dame that has strung together 2 pretty successful season in DET as a pass rusher.  I think he might even be better with more talented players around him.  I’m not really sure how he is against the run though.  Also, I’m reading that his projected contract will likely be in the 10-12 million AAV range.  

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15 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Hendrickson would be a great addition. Also bring in Kerrigan.

 

would love to get Lawson and Kerrigan.  If Kerrigan is lower priced, he'd be a nice add on.  

 

I also love Tomlinson, but at the cost it's looking like perhaps better to draft a DT.  

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Hendrickson or Lawson + Tomlinson would completely change our D.  I just don’t see any chance of us making that happen....sadly.  
 

I’d be ok with DJ Jones, Ogunjobi, Godchaux or Okwara.  
 

I wouldn’t be mad at ngakoue, I just don’t know if he’s worthy of that money.  Good flash pass rusher....but when he’s not flashing, he’s non existent imo. Hence, not worth the price tag.

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Gimme Lawson. He's been a good pass rusher since he stepped on an NFL field and was second in QB hits behind TJ Watt this year. Going to a defense than can actually cover and where he's not the only player who can rush the passer will help turn more of those hits into sacks. He's also solid against the run unlike Ngakoue, Hendrickson, and Okwara.

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7 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Gimme Lawson. He's been a good pass rusher since he stepped on an NFL field and was second in QB hits behind TJ Watt this year. Going to a defense than can actually cover and where he's not the only player who can rush the passer will help turn more of those hits into sacks. He's also solid against the run unlike Ngakoue, Hendrickson, and Okwara.

Hendrickson has generally graded out pretty solid against the run as well. Right on about the other two though.

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Lawson and Tomlinson would instantly make this defense feel scary good again. Use our 1st on either a OT (since we would most likely be losing Williams if we signed both of those guys) or Zaven Collins would look pretty damn good in a Bills uni. And yes, I realize if we drafted him, that that would be a lot of defense we focused on. 

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That is a good list, but I would like us to swing a trade for the Viking with the girly name please (Danielle Hunter). He is the one player with All-Pro / DPOY potential - and we need to get a game-changer on that D-line. The others are all serviceable - but not really game-changers. Among these others, I voted for Hendricksen with Lawson in second.

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16 hours ago, poblano said:

DJ Jones was totally underated in SF SuperBowl run, last year had a down year maybe because injuries that sidelined him 3-4 games the year before and he never recovered (don't really know)

Completely agree, I think me and you are the only 2 votes for him. 

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Is Clowney a borderline bust?  His play isn't bad, he's just not the impact player the #1 overall pick is supposed to be.  His production is a middle of the road player.

 

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Nope, I change my mind.  He's not a bust, he's a very solid player.  I just had a crazy thought in my head this morning.

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1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Is Clowney a borderline bust?  His play isn't bad, he's just not the impact player the #1 overall pick is supposed to be.  His production is a middle of the road player.

 

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Nope, I change my mind.  He's not a bust, he's a very solid player.  I just had a crazy thought in my head this morning.

He is a great run defender, not so much rushing the passer, and we need pass rushers DE's.  Certainly not a bad player, sometimes just looks lazy (for me)

4 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

Completely agree, I think me and you are the only 2 votes for him. 

Now 3(with me) 

I had forgotten to vote🤦

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I would love Tomlinson but I don’t think they will be willing to go all in $15mil on a guy that’s 28 when they are stuck with Star’s deal for another year. I want Okwara or Hendrickson. We need Edge immediately and I think they could both be had for under $11.5. 

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19 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

Completely agree, I think me and you are the only 2 votes for him. 

I also hopped on the DJ Jones train (with Okwara). 

 

The posited contract projections for these two are SUPER cap-friendly (creating the kind of dubiousness one experiences when miraculously mock-drafting 1st rounders at picks 61 and 94, for example).

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I want Taco Charlton. He was a guy that I really liked coming out of Michigan. He’s 6’6 270lbs, he can set the edge, stop the run and provide solid production as a pass rusher. I don’t think he would cost all that much and I think he has the potential to grow into a solid contributor. I’m not saying he is the only free agent DL I want, but he would be a great player to add onto this DL.

3 hours ago, whatdrought said:

A name that I don’t hear much about but would like is Solomon Thomas. Kind of a redemption project, but someone with a whole lot of talent.

It’s not a bad idea. Wouldn’t mind him neither.

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