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Antoine Winfield Sr. played 14 seasons and never made it to the Super Bowl. This was his reaction after his son won one in his rookie season.


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48 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Sr was a hell of a player.  One of the toughest little dudes I can remember.  Not sure how he would’ve fared in the pass happy NFL of today.  Most of his impact  plays were in run support.  Maybe he would’ve been a safety like Jr.  

his play style would’ve fit well in McDermott Defense at corner or nickel I think...

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20 minutes ago, jlgarsh said:

Great video. The Bills not re-signing him to save money was one of the moves that lead to the drought

 

Winfield & Clements were only together for a few seasons, but they were one of the best CB tandems of all time, imo.

 

We let go of too many good players in the drought.  Losing good players is standard, but you can't just let everyone go.

 

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3 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Sr was a hell of a player.  One of the toughest little dudes I can remember.  Not sure how he would’ve fared in the pass happy NFL of today.  Most of his impact  plays were in run support.  Maybe he would’ve been a safety like Jr.  

Winfield had good ball skills. He has 1 less career pick than revis with 27

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3 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Sr was a hell of a player.  One of the toughest little dudes I can remember.  Not sure how he would’ve fared in the pass happy NFL of today.  Most of his impact  plays were in run support.  Maybe he would’ve been a safety like Jr.  

 

He was one of the best tacklers for his size in the history of the NFL. He would have done just fine. Used to lay licks on tight ends that were a lot bigger than the ones playing today as they were mostly blockers first.

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46 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Winfield & Clements were only together for a few seasons, but they were one of the best CB tandems of all time, imo.

 

We let go of too many good players in the drought.  Losing good players is standard, but you can't just let everyone go.

 

Never had the QB so the other players coming and going was meaningless.  Now it gets real. Allen is the best QB since Kelly. Beane and McD are on the clock to produce a SB win in the next two years before Allen's contract makes it much more difficult.

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21 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I don’t remember Sr. Playing with us, as it was before my time, but Jr. is becoming a favorite of mine. He plays the game well, and his trolling of Hill was one of the best non-bills things to happen on a football field this season.

He would be the best slot corner in the NFL hands down today

 

He was a beast and real force in run stuffing as a corner

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5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Antoine Winfield Sr. was a baller.  Consummate pro, and one of my favorite Bills of that period.  With Nate Clements, we had two shutdown corners.  Donahoe screwed up on Winfield, then Marvcus completed the job by letting Clements get away.  So glad we have competent management now.


You have to put these in context at the time. Winfield wanted top corner money but had 6 ints in 5 seasons with us and only 1 int in his last 2 seasons. He was a really good cover guy but the lack of ints hurt his value. If he had the same production for us that he did for Minny it would be a no brainer. 
 

Clements got a ridiculous contract that he arguably didn’t come close to living up to. Letting him walk was the right move. 
 

Hindsight is always 20/20 but many at the time agreed that both got bigger contracts than they really should have. 

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1 minute ago, Maybe Someday said:


You have to put these in context at the time. Winfield wanted top corner money but had 6 ints in 5 seasons with us and only 1 int in his last 2 seasons. He was a really good cover guy but the lack of ints hurt his value. If he had the same production for us that he did for Minny it would be a no brainer. 
 

Clements got a ridiculous contract that he arguably didn’t come close to living up to. Letting him walk was the right move. 
 

Hindsight is always 20/20 but many at the time agreed that both got bigger contracts than they really should have. 

 

Winfield played 9 (NINE!) more years in Minnesota.  Clements played another 6 years for San Fran and Cinci.  He had 23 INTs in his 6 years here.  He was worth top corner money at the time.  He may not have had the gaudy INT stats for the '9ers, but letting him walk led to drafting Leodis "MAH MAN!"  Letting both of them walk was just stupid, leading to problems in the Bills defensive backfield for years.  But we did that a lot back then (Sam Cowart, London Fletcher, Pat Williams, etc.)

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8 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

Winfield played 9 (NINE!) more years in Minnesota.  Clements played another 6 years for San Fran and Cinci.  He had 23 INTs in his 6 years here.  He was worth top corner money at the time.  He may not have had the gaudy INT stats for the '9ers, but letting him walk led to drafting Leodis "MAH MAN!"  Letting both of them walk was just stupid, leading to problems in the Bills defensive backfield for years.  But we did that a lot back then (Sam Cowart, London Fletcher, Pat Williams, etc.)


Re Winfield that’s why I said hindsight is 20/20. He ended up with a great career but at that time, what he wanted didn’t line up with his past production. 

I agree that Clements was worth top corner money but his 49ers contract made him the highest paid defensive player in history at that time. He was good but IMO not that good. I can’t blame the Bills for letting him go. 

 

I don’t disagree with your last point at all though. Pat Williams and London should have been retained although Cowart was never the same after he tore his Achilles. 

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32 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Clements got overpaid by 49ers.  Winfield was the guy to keep.  He was a winner.  Same with Pat Williams.  Donahoe usually ended up out-smarting himself.  

 

I loved the way he’d come up in run support! Slide under the block like he was going into second base, pop up and stick the runner. It was beautiful to watch! 

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18 hours ago, whatdrought said:

I don’t remember Sr. Playing with us, as it was before my time, but Jr. is becoming a favorite of mine. He plays the game well, and his trolling of Hill was one of the best non-bills things to happen on a football field this season.


was a fan favorite as he was a smaller guy who loved to tackle and play run defense.  Also good at coverage!

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