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4 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

Retractable would be ideal.  A lot of beautiful fall days for football, heck even Indy game was sunny and pleasant in January.

 

The problem is even retractable roof stadiums don't open very far so it still feels indoors. The best stadium I think is US Bank in Minneapolis. Glass roof allows plenty of natural light. While the walls open to allow the breeze to flow through.

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6 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected.

 

1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind

2. KC - Wind & Rain

3. NE Wind & scared to throw

4. Baltimore - High winds

 

So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation.

 

https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24

 

Only 6 more days....

 

 

In the 4 games you cited, we're 2-2. Not exactly what I would call "kryptonite".

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Didn't Allen struggle against Tennessee and KC because of the injury he got against Vegas? I recall Matt Hasselbeck saying he suffered the same injury and it effected his mechanics, causing him to miss high on a lot of throws. Saw the same thing with Josh during that time. And surely they had to tweak the game plan to accommodate his injury. 

 

Last I heard, mild day in the 30s or 40s with light winds this Sunday. Obviously that could change so we'll see. 

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7 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected.

 

1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind

2. KC - Wind & Rain

3. NE Wind & scared to throw

4. Baltimore - High winds

 

So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation.

 

https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24

 

Only 6 more days....

 

2-2 not bad....  Buffalo will do what they gotta do.  KC is the easiest defense Buffalo has played in over a month.  

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15 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected.

 

1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind

2. KC - Wind & Rain

3. NE Wind & scared to throw

4. Baltimore - High winds

 

So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation.

 

https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24

 

Only 6 more days....

 

 

1.  Josh injured and schedule shenanigans. 

2.  Ditto.

3.  Don't remember.

4.  Good defense and trio of top 15 corners.

 

Chill.

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15 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

It's a no-brainer Terry needs to build a dome when it's time to replace Bills Stadium. We're not an in-the-trenches team anymore.

They should have already broken ground on a dome. These next 6-8 years will be Josh's prime. The novelty of snow/rain/wind games is over. Not even Josh and his canon enjoy playing in it. And the stats don't lie. Get that dome started.

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7 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

1.  Josh injured and schedule shenanigans. 

2.  Ditto.

3.  Don't remember.

4.  Good defense and trio of top 15 corners.

 

Chill.

Yes I know it was scheduling shenanigans, however weather did not help.  

 

The forecast was high winds (reports were it was not bad) and NE was without Gilmore and still threw only 18 times, running too much (though well) and kept NE in the game.  As we saw game 2 vs. NE, passing works better.....

 

Again 4 was wind related, making long passes impossible (thus couldn't stretch the field).  I will also say Beasley & Davis were invisible.

 

On to KC & hoping for good weather as the Bills will need to score 30+ I think.

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8 hours ago, zow2 said:

as if tonight. 47% chance rain during sunday’s game but temps will be balmy for this time of year, low 40’s to high 30’s.  winds look decent 5-10mph.   

 

I've seen some forecasts with 80% chance of rains.  The only hope I see at this point is it comes late night.  I took a look at a local report and prediction right now is the rain doesn't come until the 4th.  We need to score early!

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Well last week they came out and still threw 21 times in a row which I think probably gave them better odds than banging their heads against the wall trying to run. Yes your percentages may not look great but you are going to hit on some and Allen completed some big passes. In short you cannot fear the weather unless it’s a 2017 Colt game type storm where you have no other choice .

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22 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I've seen some forecasts with 80% chance of rains.  The only hope I see at this point is it comes late night.  I took a look at a local report and prediction right now is the rain doesn't come until the 4th.  We need to score early!

Yes my daily update.....  More like 40-45% chance of rain and very little.  Winds 7mph....

 

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/ec41724d7413d97bfb674275be79df322b42ed2eee88b2bc3772dec038a60bad

https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/mo/kansas-city

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23 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected.

 

1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind

2. KC - Wind & Rain

3. NE Wind & scared to throw

4. Baltimore - High winds

 

So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation.

 

https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24

 

Only 6 more days....

 


KC was not bad weather. There was a mist for about about 5 minutes then it dried up. Mahomes was 21/26. You can’t call weather a factor when the other guy competed passes at a clip of 80%.

 

For TN I checked the weather for the classic 5pm, Wednesday night match up. The high was like 85, zero rain, and about 3mph winds and 70 degrees during the game. 
 

I get it, Allen had some clunkers for a stretch, and we would assume better production out of such a strong armed QB in weather than we have have gotten. But largely he has played VERY WELL all year. Bad games happen. We can’t just look back and go “bad game weather must have been bad” because that isn’t true. It’s foolish. 

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Our offense isn’t nearly as effective in bad weather.  Not sure why anyone would argue.  If this offense were to be able to choose the stadium/conditions, they’d pick a dome 100/100 times.  
 

Yes, josh was injured for the titans and chiefs game. It probably affected his passing.  He was fine last week.  The weather destroyed his long passes.  He wasn’t even close on the plays that make us much more dangerous than just about every other team. 
 

 

8 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

1.  Josh injured and schedule shenanigans. 

2.  Ditto.

3.  Don't remember.

4.  Good defense and trio of top 15 corners.

 

Chill.

Did the corners cause Josh to overthrow every deep ball by 25 yards?  Maybe Josh overthrew Diggs by 20 yards when he had his man burned by 15 yards.....those ravens corners have the ability make up ground in a hurry.....

 

if you guys don’t think that bad weather has a bigger effect on our team due to our offense being 75% pass based and that our run game is sometimes inept, I don’t know what you’re looking at.  It’s obvious to all of my non bills fans friends.  It’s obvious to me.  
 

I don’t agree with much that the OP writes in this site, but he’s not wrong here.

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32 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

 

The forecasts have been a little different with some.  They all seem to say there is rain coming, just have to hope it it's later in the evening.  

30 minutes ago, Mango said:


KC was not bad weather. There was a mist for about about 5 minutes then it dried up. Mahomes was 21/26. You can’t call weather a factor when the other guy competed passes at a clip of 80%.

 

For TN I checked the weather for the classic 5pm, Wednesday night match up. The high was like 85, zero rain, and about 3mph winds and 70 degrees during the game. 
 

I get it, Allen had some clunkers for a stretch, and we would assume better production out of such a strong armed QB in weather than we have have gotten. But largely he has played VERY WELL all year. Bad games happen. We can’t just look back and go “bad game weather must have been bad” because that isn’t true. It’s foolish. 

 

It rained before the Titans game and stopped several hours before game time.  The field was dry by kickoff.  In the second quarter, it started to sprinkle for about 5 or so minutes.  Then never came back.  

 

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15 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Our offense isn’t nearly as effective in bad weather.  Not sure why anyone would argue.  If this offense were to be able to choose the stadium/conditions, they’d pick a dome 100/100 times.  
 

Yes, josh was injured for the titans and chiefs game. It probably affected his passing.  He was fine last week.  The weather destroyed his long passes.  He wasn’t even close on the plays that make us much more dangerous than just about every other team. 
 

 

Did the corners cause Josh to overthrow every deep ball by 25 yards?  Maybe Josh overthrew Diggs by 20 yards when he had his man burned by 15 yards.....those ravens corners have the ability make up ground in a hurry.....

 

if you guys don’t think that bad weather has a bigger effect on our team due to our offense being 75% pass based and that our run game is sometimes inept, I don’t know what you’re looking at.  It’s obvious to all of my non bills fans friends.  It’s obvious to me.  
 

I don’t agree with much that the OP writes in this site, but he’s not wrong here.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.....🤣

 

28 minutes ago, Mango said:


KC was not bad weather. There was a mist for about about 5 minutes then it dried up. Mahomes was 21/26. You can’t call weather a factor when the other guy competed passes at a clip of 80%.

 

For TN I checked the weather for the classic 5pm, Wednesday night match up. The high was like 85, zero rain, and about 3mph winds and 70 degrees during the game. 
 

I get it, Allen had some clunkers for a stretch, and we would assume better production out of such a strong armed QB in weather than we have have gotten. But largely he has played VERY WELL all year. Bad games happen. We can’t just look back and go “bad game weather must have been bad” because that isn’t true. It’s foolish. 

We must have been watching different games.  Rain was pretty heavy vs. KC & wind.  

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8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Thanks for the vote of confidence.....🤣

 

We must have been watching different games.  Rain was pretty heavy vs. KC & wind.  

 

Here's video evidence that it wasn't raining heavy.  These highlights are showing all 4 quarters.  Look at the flags on the goal posts on the field goals, they are completely still.  Knowing you, this still won't be enough for you.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Here's video evidence that it wasn't raining heavy.  These highlights are showing all 4 quarters.  Knowing you, this still won't be enough for you.

 

 

you rarely ever see the rain, unless it’s a downpour. You see the rain when they have low to high camera angles that show the top of the stadium.  It was certainly raining..  it was certainly wet and I’m really confused as to why some of you guys would argue the fact that our offense is negatively effected by bad weather. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/10/19/chiefs-bills-score-live-updates/%3foutputType=amp

 

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsbettingdime.com/amp/news/nfl/kansas-city-weather-forecast-bills-vs-chiefs-afc-championship-game/

 

If it rains on Sunday, it should be old hat for the Chiefs and Bills. When the two teams met in Buffalo on Oct. 19th during Week 6 of the 2020 NFL regular season, the game was played in a downpour.

If the sloppy field caused an impact on the game, it was clearly the Bills who ended up suffering. Buffalo was unable to run the ball.

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Thanks for the vote of confidence.....🤣

 


It’s your fault. You’re welcome.  

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18 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Thanks for the vote of confidence.....🤣

 

We must have been watching different games.  Rain was pretty heavy vs. KC & wind.  

 

You know you can like, use the internet, and just like, go back and find this stuff out. Wind was 5mph against the Chiefs, and the guy in the red jersey playing QB completed literally 80% of his passes.

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6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

you rarely ever see the rain, unless it’s a downpour. You see the rain when they have low to high camera angles that show the top of the stadium.  It was certainly raining..  it was certainly wet and I’m really confused as to why some of you guys would argue the fact that our offense is negatively effected by bad weather. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/10/19/chiefs-bills-score-live-updates/%3foutputType=amp

 

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsbettingdime.com/amp/news/nfl/kansas-city-weather-forecast-bills-vs-chiefs-afc-championship-game/

 

If it rains on Sunday, it should be old hat for the Chiefs and Bills. When the two teams met in Buffalo on Oct. 19th during Week 6 of the 2020 NFL regular season, the game was played in a downpour.

If the sloppy field caused an impact on the game, it was clearly the Bills who ended up suffering. Buffalo was unable to run the ball.

 

 

 


It’s your fault. You’re welcome.  

 

I don't believe I am arguing whether or not rain affects a game or not, it certainly does.

 

In the first quarter, it's a mist and not a rain....very light drizzle.  1972 is saying it was "HEAVY RAIN AND WIND" which is clearly not the case...the flags are completely still and like you said "unless it's a down pour".   Still photos pick up rain a lot better than video and look at the game photos....

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I was wrong about the wind vs. KC, but it was raining and you can see it on the cameras (and remember pre game seeing it).  May not been as hard as I thought, but definitely affected the Bills.

 

Also third play from scrimmage was a drop by Brown.  Again little things.....

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

You know you can like, use the internet, and just like, go back and find this stuff out. Wind was 5mph against the Chiefs, and the guy in the red jersey playing QB completed literally 80% of his passes.

What does that have to do with Josh allen throwing a wet ball?  It’s kind of the point tbh. Bad weather effects our offense more than most offenses.  Not just because we have troubles running, but because our WRs have trouble catching/QBs has trouble throwing in wet/rainy conditions.

 

everyone loves to talk about how Josh is used to playing in wet,windy, cold conditions because he played in Laramie....

But do those people take into account that he didn’t have good results there either.  Maybe the bad weather had an affect on his playing?  Is that not possible?

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4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Pretty sure even Josh himself admitted as much... something to the effect of I like playing in good weather conditions. 

Yup.  I remember the interview, might’ve been around the time of the niner game, playing the Arizona dome

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20 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

The problem is even retractable roof stadiums don't open very far so it still feels indoors. The best stadium I think is US Bank in Minneapolis. Glass roof allows plenty of natural light. While the walls open to allow the breeze to flow through.

Yes I love that Minny stadium.  That's a great benchmark I hope they use it.  Similar climate too, I'd love to hear Diggs take on it.   The lighting is a huge deal, nothing worse than going inside on a nice fall day to LED warehouse lighting.

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https://www.kshb.com/weather/weather-blog-buffalo-bills-vs-kansas-city-chiefs-weather-forecast

 

AFC Championship Sunday Forecast In KC:

 

It will likely be cloudy and cool with a cold front moving through during the day.

Snow will fall across Wisconsin and parts of Iowa

Kansas City has a chance of a few showers on Sunday and we will continue to track the trends as this storm approaches and develops

Expect a wind shift to the northwest by kickoff with temperatures in the 30s for the game. The latest data has it dropping into the 20s. The winds will be out of the north and 10-20 mph

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On 1/19/2021 at 8:58 AM, Billsfan1972 said:

Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected.

 

1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind

2. KC - Wind & Rain

3. NE Wind & scared to throw

4. Baltimore - High winds

 

So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation.

 

https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24

 

Only 6 more days....

 

Three of those games were with an injured Allen and missing pieces all over the place also...weather doesn't affect us anymore than it would kc imo

On 1/19/2021 at 9:28 AM, HeHateMe said:

We are a finesse team, need that dome!

no we are not a finished team...next season i expect dramatic improvement rushing the ball and rushing the quarterback 

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On 1/19/2021 at 9:06 AM, Big Turk said:

 

Does anyone really like wet balls?

Depends on what makes them wet...

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On 1/19/2021 at 10:00 AM, Billsfan1972 said:

I see 40% and low winds, which seems fine.  

It's a weakness with most QB's (bad weather), however it really affects the Bills offence more at this point.

It appears that it effected the Ravens more so in our last game in which they failed to score a touchdown through four quarters, but yeah, the Bills.... 🙄 

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On 1/19/2021 at 9:23 AM, PromoTheRobot said:

It's a no-brainer Terry needs to build a dome when it's time to replace Bills Stadium. We're not an in-the-trenches team anymore.

I don’t know when in the last 30 years we have been. People just love the element of weather in Bills games. It’s part of the teams culture IMO. Similar in Green Bay.

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4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I stressed out all last week about the weather. Can’t do it again. Can’t control it.

 

I just hope that we factor the weather into how we call the game. Can’t be throwing bombs in 25 MPH gusts again.  
 

 


https://www.kshb.com/weather/weather-blog-buffalo-bills-vs-kansas-city-chiefs-weather-forecast

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I think it was after the San Fran game (in Arizona).  Josh commented how great it felt ...the spin of the ball leaving his hand, and how much he was in a zone inside that stadium.  

 

At that moment i realized we are doomed in weather games.  DOOMED!!!!

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1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

It appears that it effected the Ravens more so in our last game in which they failed to score a touchdown through four quarters, but yeah, the Bills.... 🙄 

The ravens moved the ball better than we did.  They had more passing yards and 5x as many rushing yards.  33% more total yards. More first downs.  33% more ToP.

 

one pick six is why we won.  True story.  

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Just now, NewEra said:

The ravens moved the ball better than we did.  They had more passing yards and 5x as many rushing yards.  33% more total yards. More first downs.  33% more ToP.

 

one pick six is why we won.  True story.  

 

And Indy was the first team in playoff history to have 450+ yards and Zero turnovers... and lose the game.

 

Hence why i feel like we are playing with house money this weekend. enjoy the ride.

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