Figster Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I suspect Mahomes will be cleared to play although will go into the game as the Chiefs backup IMO. No way the young signal caller will be playing at 100 %, 80 If hes lucky. Andy Reid will make a determination when and If he plays by how the game goes IMO. Pure speculation on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Mahomes will play. We all know that. We all knew that as soon as he couldn't stand on his own two feet. We knew that when we saw him go into the blue tent the first time for what I think is turf toe. But I seriously think the Chiefs should be thinking about sitting him. KC just gave this guy a 1/2 billion dollars, committing to him for a full decade. Whatever it was that caused him to be so dizzy that he couldn't stand, it is dangerous. And it certainly increases the chances of sustaining a more serious injury this coming Sunday. To be clear, I hope he is OK and never gets injured again. But the truth of the matter is KC could be putting him in serious jeopardy of a career-shortening injury by playing him so soon after that. KC needs to realize they have to pay him all that money even if he goes out, gets his clock rung and cannot play anymore. Protect your investment, Andy Reid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, scribo said: Mahomes will play. We all know that. We all knew that as soon as he couldn't stand on his own two feet. We knew that when we saw him go into the blue tent the first time for what I think is turf toe. But I seriously think the Chiefs should be thinking about sitting him. KC just gave this guy a 1/2 billion dollars, committing to him for a full decade. Whatever it was that caused him to be so dizzy that he couldn't stand, it is dangerous. And it certainly increases the chances of sustaining a more serious injury this coming Sunday. To be clear, I hope he is OK and never gets injured again. But the truth of the matter is KC could be putting him in serious jeopardy of a career-shortening injury by playing him so soon after that. KC needs to realize they have to pay him all that money even if he goes out, gets his clock rung and cannot play anymore. Protect your investment, Andy Reid! I guess I was mistaken - I thought an independent medical professional had to clear him to play and it was not Reid's decision. I believe he will play but also believe the Chiefs will not make the medical decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I guess I was mistaken - I thought an independent medical professional had to clear him to play and it was not Reid's decision. I believe he will play but also believe the Chiefs will not make the medical decision. One wonders how many times this has to be said... 🙄 Also, the thread title is misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 🙃 1 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, scribo said: Mahomes will play. We all know that. We all knew that as soon as he couldn't stand on his own two feet. We knew that when we saw him go into the blue tent the first time for what I think is turf toe. But I seriously think the Chiefs should be thinking about sitting him. KC just gave this guy a 1/2 billion dollars, committing to him for a full decade. Whatever it was that caused him to be so dizzy that he couldn't stand, it is dangerous. And it certainly increases the chances of sustaining a more serious injury this coming Sunday. To be clear, I hope he is OK and never gets injured again. But the truth of the matter is KC could be putting him in serious jeopardy of a career-shortening injury by playing him so soon after that. KC needs to realize they have to pay him all that money even if he goes out, gets his clock rung and cannot play anymore. Protect your investment, Andy Reid! Well thing is, we don't know that for sure. I mean due to it being the AFC Champion Ship game we assume the chances are he will. The fact is, we don't know for a fact yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 There is absolutely no way the NFL is going to let Mahomes miss this game. If for ratings alone, he will get rubber stamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, benderbender said: There is absolutely no way the NFL is going to let Mahomes miss this game. If for ratings alone, he will get rubber stamped. Would the league put him in jeopardy for ratings? Or possibly a major lawsuit from him if he gets even more injured for playing when he shouldn't have? There's a reason they put these protocol in place for both their and the player's protection. Fact is if he doesn't pass them he isn't playing Sunday, simple as that. No player how good they are is above the league as we saw with Brady getting suspended. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Seems some of you have more faith in the objectivity of these NFL-paid doctors than I do. Fair enough. But I've learned that when billion$ are at $take, objectivity often is a farce. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaxx Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Has there ever been an NFL game delayed due a player being injured? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, scribo said: Seems some of you have more faith in the objectivity of these NFL-paid doctors than I do. Fair enough. But I've learned that when billion$ are at $take, objectivity often is a farce. I get it, I mean there's a very good chance he will play. Just saying that we don't know what the issues are behind the scenes and therefor we don't know for a fact yet. Even then, when Reid gets the yay or nay, I believe he keeps it close to his vest til the last possible minute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Would the league put him in jeopardy for ratings? Or possibly a major lawsuit from him if he gets even more injured for playing when he shouldn't have? There's a reason they put these protocol in place for both their and the player's protection. Fact is if he doesn't pass them he isn't playing Sunday, simple as that. No player how good they are is above the league as we saw with Brady getting suspended. Not only that, I think the NFL would love to be able to say, "See...we care about player safety....We even put the biggest player in the sport on the shelf." NFL is in for the long game...one game is not worth it. Could you imagine if Mahomes becomes the next RGIII? He was rushed into a playoff game and was never the same. That's the last thing the NFL wants. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kangaxx said: Has there ever been an NFL game delayed due a player being injured? No and it won't happen now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kangaxx said: Has there ever been an NFL game delayed due a player being injured? No, so they might want to get going on a Covid outbreak just in case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kangaxx said: Has there ever been an NFL game delayed due a player being injured? My guess is no and it would be absolute insanity to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, fergie's ire said: Not only that, I think the NFL would love to be able to say, "See...we care about player safety....We even put the biggest player in the sport on the shelf." NFL is in for the long game...one game is not worth it. Could you imagine if Mahomes becomes the next RGIII? He was rushed into a playoff game and was never the same. That's the last thing the NFL wants. I could very well see that happening also. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kangaxx said: Has there ever been an NFL game delayed due a player being injured? Of course not. It would ruin the NFL if it is ever tried. Player injuries are "the rub of the green"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, syhuang said: I have a pet peeve when moms get involved like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I have a pet peeve when moms get involved like this Same here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 🙃 This is the dumbest $*^&! I have ever heard. Its not even like he has Covid, its an injury. It would be suicide for the NFL to delay the game to wait for him to recover. Did the NFL delay the AFC Wilcard game when Kelly was hurt? What about the Super Bowl when Simms was hurt? No way they should do this and no way they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 The only thing I am more confident in than Mahomes playing on Sunday is the NFL not delaying the game if he can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: This is the dumbest $*^&! I have ever heard. Its not even like he has Covid, its an injury. It would be suicide for the NFL to delay the game to wait for him to recover. Did the NFL delay the AFC Wilcard game when Kelly was hurt? What about the Super Bowl when Simms was hurt? No way they should do this and no way they will Exactly. I don't get why he would say such a stupid thing like this anyways. I didn't watch the segment so don't know if he was being sarcastic or not. But if he was serious it absolutely should go near the top of the list of the many other dumb statements he has made. Edited January 19, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Patrick_Duffy said: Exactly. I don't get why he would say such a stupid thing like this anyways. I didn't watch the segment so don't know if he was being sarcastic or not. But if he was serious it's absolutely goes near the top of the list of the many other dumb statements he has made. Clicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Clicks I guess, but it's just such an off the wall dumb statement that I would think hurts him more than helps him. I don't know though, I've never cared for him myself but I'm sure there is quite a few ppl that eat his silly ***** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Patrick_Duffy said: I guess, but it's just such an off the wall dumb statement that I would think hurts him more than helps him. I don't know though, I've never cared for him myself but I'm sure there is quite a few ppl that eat his silly ***** up. My reaction to Yolo's post was to laugh. It seems to me that people can say any stupid thing that comes into their heads without any consequences anymore. In a just world he would be laughed out of the business with that comment. IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I havent gone through all 14 pages of the thread, but someone has pointed out that KC's "explanation" is complete bull *****, right? There is no magical nerve in your neck that, when pinched, makes you pass out and gives you wobbly legs for minutes afterwards. This isnt Star Trek, there is no Vulcan Death Grip. Mahomes got concussed. If they want to rush him back out onto the field Sunday, fine. We'll see how his noodle brain holds up. 3 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 His quote is the equivalent of that guy whipping you with a towel in the showers yelling "gotcha!" and then running away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I havent gone through all 14 pages of the thread, but someone has pointed out that KC's "explanation" is complete bull *****, right? There is no magical nerve in your neck that, when pinched, makes you pass out and gives you wobbly legs for minutes afterwards. This isnt Star Trek, there is no Vulcan Death Grip. Mahomes got concussed. If they want to rush him back out onto the field Sunday, fine. We'll see how his noodle brain holds up. I totally believe 100% (It's probably obvious to most) that he would be out at least 2 weeks easy if this wasn't the AFC Championship. It will be interesting to see how it's handled. Of course depending on the severity(that we don't know behind then scenes) if the NFL tries to say " see, we do put a lot of stock into player safety and kept one of the best players out", Or if they try and push the issue and rush it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Does anyone remember Troy Aikman’s mediocre performance against us in Super Bowl XXVIII? Pretty sure he was concussed in the NFC Championship Game. No concussion protocols back then. Point is, even if Mahones plays, concussion could impact his game on Sunday. Oh sorry, his “pinched nerve.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I havent gone through all 14 pages of the thread, but someone has pointed out that KC's "explanation" is complete bull *****, right? There is no magical nerve in your neck that, when pinched, makes you pass out and gives you wobbly legs for minutes afterwards. This isnt Star Trek, there is no Vulcan Death Grip. Mahomes got concussed. If they want to rush him back out onto the field Sunday, fine. We'll see how his noodle brain holds up. Concussed OR a Spinal Injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Returntoglory said: Concussed OR a Spinal Injury. I'm guessing both. But the knocked out and wobbly legs were from the concussion. If they were from a spinal injury then that is a WAY BIGGER problem than we've ever seen. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I havent gone through all 14 pages of the thread, but someone has pointed out that KC's "explanation" is complete bull *****, right? There is no magical nerve in your neck that, when pinched, makes you pass out and gives you wobbly legs for minutes afterwards. This isnt Star Trek, there is no Vulcan Death Grip. Mahomes got concussed. If they want to rush him back out onto the field Sunday, fine. We'll see how his noodle brain holds up. His status is not in the Buffalo Bills team or fans control. If he plays it will mean one way or the other between the "concussion" and his turf toe he will be in a position to take more hits from the Bills defense. My only concern (and I'm serious about this) is the refs flagging any close "touch" on him AND if he does get his bell rung again it will be to the detriment of the Bills player who hits him. It shouldn't be that way but I bet it has a good chance of happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Reading the chiefs board at lunch today it sounds more and more like the neck/nerve issue could be what happened. He also jogged down a set of stairs and into the locker room without assistance right after, which made me think about the following response on that board: "Interestingly had Mahomes just laid on the ground for a few minutes and caught his breath and balance he likely would have been able to go back in the game." If you're seen wobbling like that you're done, no matter what. Optics are too bad if you come back, because nobody will believe you didn't have a concussion. The wobble puts you in the protocol. Terrible PR for the league and a risk, too, in terms of the neck, without further tests to be sure nothing was damaged. I would not be surprised at all if what was suggested above has happened before, especially in a playoff game: a player staying down for a minute to collect himself in an effort to stay clear of concussion protocol. That hit didn't look like a concussion inducing hit, so if he was down for a minute then was able to get up there probably wouldn't have been any suspicion. 6 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: Does anyone remember Troy Aikman’s mediocre performance against us in Super Bowl XXVIII? Pretty sure he was concussed in the NFC Championship Game. No concussion protocols back then. Point is, even if Mahones plays, concussion could impact his game on Sunday. Oh sorry, his “pinched nerve.” I think some former Cowboys talked about it on the 4 Falls of Buffalo show... Basically Aikman couldn't even remember the plays and they figured the Bills were going to beat them and finally get the SB win, but the Bills seemed tight and timid, when they were kicking their butts (not on the scoreboard, though). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Reading the chiefs board at lunch today it sounds more and more like the neck/nerve issue could be what happened. He also jogged down a set of stairs and into the locker room without assistance right after, which made me think about the following response on that board: That's not a thing tho. There is no nerve that knocks you out and gives you wobbly legs, or the "fencing response" we saw from him. That is all concussion. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Reading the chiefs board at lunch today it sounds more and more like the neck/nerve issue could be what happened. He also jogged down a set of stairs and into the locker room without assistance right after, which made me think about the following response on that board: "Interestingly had Mahomes just laid on the ground for a few minutes and caught his breath and balance he likely would have been able to go back in the game." If you're seen wobbling like that you're done, no matter what. Optics are too bad if you come back, because nobody will believe you didn't have a concussion. The wobble puts you in the protocol. Terrible PR for the league and a risk, too, in terms of the neck, without further tests to be sure nothing was damaged. I would not be surprised at all if what was suggested above has happened before, especially in a playoff game: a player staying down for a minute to collect himself in an effort to stay clear of concussion protocol. That hit didn't look like a concussion inducing hit, so if he was down for a minute then was able to get up there probably wouldn't have been any suspicion. I think some former Cowboys talked about it on the 4 Falls of Buffalo show... Basically Aikman couldn't even remember the plays and they figured the Bills were going to beat them and finally get the SB win, but the Bills seemed tight and timid, when they were kicking their butts (not on the scoreboard, though). I also remember Kelly smashing his head into the artificial turf during the SB vs the skins. He was absolutely gone after that but went back in anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: That's not a thing tho. There is no nerve that knocks you out and gives you wobbly legs, or the "fencing response" we saw from him. That is all concussion. I have no idea. I thought it was his neck being twisted cutting off blood flow. If the Browns player HAD been trying to rip his head off I have no idea what he would have done differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, TheFunPolice said: I have no idea. I thought it was his neck being twisted cutting off blood flow. If the Browns player HAD been trying to rip his head off I have no idea what he would have done differently. All good. Lots of bad info spreading out there. Most by the Chiefs. That is a "sleeper hold". It takes a longer time being held in that position to knock someone out. It is certainly not instantly or in the 1-2 seconds Mahomes neck was torqued. He did not pass out from lack of blood flow to the brain. He was knocked out by a concussion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Well at least all the attention will be on Mahomes this week. Bodes well for the bills imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: I guess, but it's just such an off the wall dumb statement that I would think hurts him more than helps him. I don't know though, I've never cared for him myself but I'm sure there is quite a few ppl that eat his silly ***** up. Look at all the attention it has gotten him...by now I'm surprised that people haven't realized that saying stupidly outlandish things that are well beyond insane is what many attention getters who refer to themselves as media do.. How does it hurt him? Your attention is just as good as someone who thinks he said something brilliant with incredible insight. .. and every time someone has a meltdown at some comment someone made then jumps off the toilet mid-poop to rush to post it to a message board then they have a huge win because that attention is turned into dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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