Week 12 Post Game thread Bills vs Chargers

[newcam2012]

4 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Coming into this week Pitt has statistically played the easiest schedule in the whole league. And KC couldn’t “destroy” us the first time we played. 
 

quit with this..... Sure they’re better teams right now but the bills have shown they can play with anyone on a given day. 

Coughed up 3 4th quarter to’s and STILL won by 10. 
 

defense just gave up 17 to top ten offense. You people suck today. 

I hear what you are saying. I strongly disagree. Come playoff time it's a different animal vs the regular season. The Bills will get destroyed by the Chiefs and lose by double digits to Pitts. We just aren't in their league. Our defense isn't good enough and our offense tends to under perform vs good teams. Additionally, you talk about strength of schedule. What strong teams have the Bills beat? 

[MJS]

18 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I hear what you are saying. I strongly disagree. Come playoff time it's a different animal vs the regular season. The Bills will get destroyed by the Chiefs and lose by double digits to Pitts. We just aren't in their league. Our defense isn't good enough and our offense tends to under perform vs good teams. Additionally, you talk about strength of schedule. What strong teams have the Bills beat? 

You're right. Let's just hang up the cleats right now. No point in even playing the games. Newcam2012 has deemed the team a failure. Might as well play for the draft now.

[Chandler#81]

 

12 hours ago, FLFan said:

Not the Bills best game today, but they were clearly the better team, they held Herbert down better than virtually anyone else all year, and won the game easily.  This should be encouraging to Bills fans.  They dominated a team that has played many close games on a day when they were not their best.  Be happy for crying out loud. 

Thank you.

12 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

Ive been thinking, an we really have to give the D more credit during that 3 turnover period.

Is this EVER a good thing?

12 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

One thing that does worry me some is:

 

We drafted Allen for his big strong arm and he has shown the arm strength many times.  But whenever the weather/wind is any kind of a factor Allen has had his least impressive games.  Admittedly they ran the ball much better which is good and not that he threw the ball bad at all, but still does worry me a little.

Weather was unseasonably perfect today. What you saw was an offense showcasing the ability to impose its will in any manner in any game. 

12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

They played the team they played. This is who the chargers are.  The chargers are 3-8 for a reason. They’ve lost all their games by one score except one... the Bills. They went to OT vs the saints. They would have beaten the chiefs if not not for a 58 yard FG. Bills beat them by 2 scores. What is the issue. 

It’s unreal, really. Some here WANT the Bills to self-destruct and are miserable when it doesn’t happen.

12 hours ago, balln said:

youre missing the point dude. this team has texans bounced 1st rd loss all over them. 

You’re missing the point, dude. Crusading gets a week in the hole. Let us know in 9 days if you’ve gotten the point.

12 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

I now understand about people on this site complaining that you can't say anything negative after a win. It's ludicrous .Bills are perfect is that better

 

12 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

This is getting ridiculous, I never said the Bills sucked. You guys are all so sensitive its pathetic.  

I agree, Ace! 75% completions on over 20 throws? Unacceptable! We should switch out Allen for Fromm, dontchathink? 🤦‍♂️

11 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

The Bills lead the NFL in average 4th quarter points. You gloss over that conveniently.

Thanks, but this is contrary to the Crusade.🤷‍♂️

 

8 hours ago, balln said:

so we keep saying bills won by two scores while no other team has done that as some sort of trophy. THey very well could have scored at the end. Then bills up by 3. Still not a defense. Bills O is inconsistent. Team overall isnt playoff ready

So creating negative scenarios to enhance your crusade makes your point valid? Tell it to the warden.

7 hours ago, eSJayDee said:

I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but I'd like to point out - After we got the 5 yd penalty on the KO, Bass hit the cross bar & put it through the uprights.  From 80 yds out!!!

He’s been impressive, for sure!

 

Here’s the real lowdown. We’re 8-3, 6-2 in Conference play, 4-0 in Division play. Offense is showing the ability to play any system at any time they want to. Defense coming together in every aspect. STs is outstanding. The team is getting healthier as the season rolls on.

 

This isn’t sugar coating. Any other evaluation is just vomit spew.

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

You're right. Let's just hang up the cleats right now. No point in even playing the games. Newcam2012 has deemed the team a failure. Might as well play for the draft now.

Not saying that at all. Please don't misrepresent what I'm saying. I understand my view point is unpopular. I stand by my premise. I'd be the first one who would like to be wrong. It's always been unpopular to speak negatively about the team. Honesty and realistic expectations should be encouraged on here not crucified. Your post highlights such a thinking error. 

[BRH]

9 hours ago, R2ITRich said:

I attribute much of the TV graphic mistakes to Covid.  I work with a lot of these graphics operators, and because so many sporting events were cancelled this summer, these freelance graphics operators moved on to other work.  The Networks are struggling to put on good shows right now with anyone they can find.

And having served as a spotter for a few Westwood One broadcasts in my long-ago college days, I think COVID may be interfering with that as well.  The PBP guy is used to having a guy next to him with binoculars and a roster sheet, identifying players involved in plays and reminding him of their names.  At least, that’s how we did it 30 years ago.  Yes that can be done remotely but it’s harder because you already have enough voices in your earpiece and the spotter can point to names and numbers on the roster silently.  But a bad spotter or the lack thereof can be overcome with better preparation, and it felt to me like Gumbel and Gannon mailed a lot of this one in on this holiday weekend. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by BRH

[BigDingus]

13 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

One thing that does worry me some is:

 

We drafted Allen for his big strong arm and he has shown the arm strength many times.  But whenever the weather/wind is any kind of a factor Allen has had his least impressive games.  Admittedly they ran the ball much better which is good and not that he threw the ball bad at all, but still does worry me a little.

 

This is 100% true, but it's also true for the entire team. 

 

For years now, the whole "Bills should have an advantage in bad weather," reputation hasn't applied. It seems to help opposing teams more than it helps us. We tend to squeak by with wins against the bad teams in those conditions, but good teams often make less mistakes and turn the ball over less. 

 

Every time I see our offense in an indoor venue, I feel much safer. Then I imagine if that was our home field + our fans, and I can't help but dream of a nice, indoor Bills stadium in the future 😁

[wjag]

I don't recall any notable injuries from yesterday.  Allen didn't seem too bothered by his ankle and I think Taron Johnson was slow getting up but played.  Did the Bills survive the game intact?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Sorry if duplicated 

 

 

 

 

(not really   )

 

[wjag]

my game day thoughts.

 

1.  That fourth quarter was nuts.  N*U*T*S*.  We won, no holding call, we won, no turnover, we won field goal.

2.  Two Hail Mary's completed on back to back plays, one counted.

3.  The last minute play calling by the Chargers may just be the WORST in NFL history.

4.  Allen's INT was clearly effected by the pash rush, but I wonder if his ankle played a role in this too?  Maybe he could not plant on it effectively.

5.  Curious game plan that forgot about Diggs in the first half.

6.  Was that THE QUIETEST 175 rushing yards in a game?  I was pretty surprised to see that number flash up. It just didn't seem like that many to me.  

7.  Beasley is such a good receiver.  Why he doesn't get 10 targets every game is a mystery to me.

8.  I was sure they were going to throw a TD to the OLINE.  On the Knox TD, I'm pretty sure I saw an OLINE eligible in the end zone.

9.  With each kick Bass makes, I am getting more comfortable.

10. Bojorquez was booming punts yesterday.

11. Bills LBs had themselves a day.  Looking forward to getting a healthy Milano back.

12. Bills played K Allen about as well as one can play him.  His best play of the day was when Allen crushed the Bills CB allowing the RB to get a big run.

13. Five OLINE started, same five OLINE finished.

14. On to San Francisco ...  or Tempe.. or ...

Edited November 30, 2020 by wjag

[RichRiderBills]

6 hours ago, NewEra said:

But that hasn’t really been the case. For the most part, we beat the teams we’re supposed to beat and lose (sometimes big) to the teams that we aren’t supposed to beat. Underdogs to the chiefs and cards while losing @ the titans, who are returning the same team from the afccg.   The Seattle game, while it is a signature win, it was @home against an all time bad D traveling across the country to the east coast. 
 

I feel that we can hang with any team, no question.  I just don’t feel that we lose very many games that we are supposed win.  We might have to sweat them out though 

If you’re disappointed in Poyer week in and week out, you should stop smoking that particular kind of crack. It’s not helping 

 

Poyer is not playing that great. He whiffs on a lot of intermediate tackles and takes poor pursuit angles, especially in run support. At best, his 2020 gamefilm is mixed. I know he's capable of being great, but I just don't see it.

 

 

Edited November 30, 2020 by RichRiderBills

[RichRiderBills]

44 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

This is 100% true, but it's also true for the entire team. 

 

For years now, the whole "Bills should have an advantage in bad weather," reputation hasn't applied. It seems to help opposing teams more than it helps us. We tend to squeak by with wins against the bad teams in those conditions, but good teams often make less mistakes and turn the ball over less. 

 

Every time I see our offense in an indoor venue, I feel much safer. Then I imagine if that was our home field + our fans, and I can't help but dream of a nice, indoor Bills stadium in the future 😁

 

Go back to the glory days and look how much Kelly rifled it in swirling winds....you wont find as much of the film as you hope. Kgun ran a ton of screens, flares, and short passes. Look at the famous Browns-Bills playoff game in '89. Look how many catches by RBs that game. This whole fantasy of a strong arm quarterback throwing bombs in terrible weather is out there...

 

I actually thought we had a good gameplan sunday. A couple plays here and there I did not like, and the oline struggled some, but those turnovers at the end dont happen and we handle them. 

[Ya Digg?]

5 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I hear what you are saying. I strongly disagree. Come playoff time it's a different animal vs the regular season. The Bills will get destroyed by the Chiefs and lose by double digits to Pitts. We just aren't in their league. Our defense isn't good enough and our offense tends to under perform vs good teams. Additionally, you talk about strength of schedule. What strong teams have the Bills beat? 

Come on man, this stuff still? They’ve played 11 games and have won 8 of them-you don’t get to that point by beating only terrible teams. You’re nitpicking the Bills and using the other teams to fit your narrative. I could easily switch around the narrative foe their losses-for the Tennessee game there was so much uncertainty including game planning for 2 teams, the weather was bad for the KC game, lucky catch on a Hail Mary to lose to Arizona, etc....I mean you’re worried about getting blown out by Pittsburgh-they have some close wins against bad teams this year! 
 

the point is every team has had some pretty suspect games this year, that being said you don’t get to 8-3 by only beating cream puffs-this isn’t college football 

[r00tabaga]

16 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Poyer is not playing that great. He whiffs on a lot of intermediate tackles and takes poor pursuit angles, especially in run support. At best, his 2020 gamefilm is mixed. I know he'd capable of being great, but I just don't see it.

 

 

How you don’t see it says more about you than it does anything else. He is our defensive MVP thru 11 games.

 Hands down.

[Greg S]

8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

👀when did this guy become a bills fan 

 

 

 

At least here in the NY/NJ area its been known for some time that Cuomo is a Bills fan. The media here has asked him why he doesn't support the Jets or Giants and he says he grew up a Bills fan. You can tell we are having a good season when the biggest complaints on this board are we don't win pretty enough. Win by 1 or 31 I don't care. A win is a win. The Bills do need to fix some things like every team does. Can't turn the ball over like that as it will cost them in the future. If the Bills ever decide to make the all white throwbacks their permanent home uniform I would love that. Its their best look AINEC.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[Stank_Nasty]

6 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I hear what you are saying. I strongly disagree. Come playoff time it's a different animal vs the regular season. The Bills will get destroyed by the Chiefs and lose by double digits to Pitts. We just aren't in their league. Our defense isn't good enough and our offense tends to under perform vs good teams. Additionally, you talk about strength of schedule. What strong teams have the Bills beat? 

If the playoffs started today the bills have 3 wins over 3 teams that would be in. Rams, Seahawks and fins. 
 

Heading into this week the bills had played 7 teams with winning records. Steelers have played 3. what schedule would you argue better preps a team for a playoff run? 
 

you’re looking really foolish here, my man. 

[BillsFanSD]

14 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Well considering the Titans smoked the Bills earlier in the year. Yes, I’d say they are clearly better. 

I wouldn't.  That was a very weird game, and I imagine a Bills-Titans playoff game would about 3 point line -- more or less a coin flip.

 

Most fans would have a better handle on the NFL if they thought in terms of probabilities instead of obviously wrong heuristics like "The better team always wins."  In the NFL, the gap between teams isn't that large, and there are hardly any games that are truly locks one way or the other.  

[PromoTheRobot]

9 hours ago, sonyab1974 said:

 

Man! What happened to the Jets?!?!? 

 

They're better than their record.

[Greg S]

3 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

If the playoffs started today the bills have 3 wins over 3 teams that would be in. Rams, Seahawks and fins. 
 

Heading into this week the bills had played 7 teams with winning records. Steelers have played 3. what schedule would you argue better preps a team for a playoff run? 
 

you’re looking really foolish here, my man. 

 

If they started today we would get the Browns. The Titans win has them as the #3 as we drop to #4. Cleveland is the top WC team. Of course things will probably change over the next 5 weeks. The AFC is strong this year. KC, PITT, CLE, BAL (when healthy), TEN, INDY. Whoever the Bills get on WC weekend (assuming they take care of business the final 5 weeks) they will have their hands full.

[BillsFanSD]

6 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I hear what you are saying. I strongly disagree. Come playoff time it's a different animal vs the regular season. The Bills will get destroyed by the Chiefs and lose by double digits to Pitts. We just aren't in their league. Our defense isn't good enough and our offense tends to under perform vs good teams. Additionally, you talk about strength of schedule. What strong teams have the Bills beat? 

The Rams and Seahawks for sure.  The Dolphins and Raiders are also borderline playoff teams.  (Full disclosure: I don't think Miami is actually that good, and they're at least a couple of wins ahead of their talent level.  If you want to cross them off this list, I won't argue with you, but according to the stats they're a solid team.)

 

I mean, last year your point would have had some validity to it.  We played a schedule that was softer than Snuggle Bear, and it was reasonable to wonder what would happen if/when we finally played somebody good.  It's kind of crazy to make that same argument this year.  We lost to two good teams -- one under deeply weird circumstances and one that was at least kind of close -- and we lost another game to a pretty good team on a fluke play at the very end.  We've also got wins over 3-4 playoff teams.  Obviously it would be nice if we were unbeaten, but it's not like our 8-3 record is some kind of mirage or just the product of beating up on the Jets, Bengals, and Jaguars of the league.  We have quite a few good wins tucked away in there.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

15 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

I wouldn't.  That was a very weird game, and I imagine a Bills-Titans playoff game would about 3 point line -- more or less a coin flip.

 

Most fans would have a better handle on the NFL if they thought in terms of probabilities instead of obviously wrong heuristics like "The better team always wins."  In the NFL, the gap between teams isn't that large, and there are hardly any games that are truly locks one way or the other.  

agreed re the Titans. I would love to play those guys again. That earlier game was a bit of a fluke, and it got away from us. 

[YattaOkasan]

8 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

agreed re the Titans. I would love to play those guys again. That earlier game was a bit of a fluke, and it got away from us. 

I think the team would love to play them again.  As that game was ending I thought all their actions were just good bulletin board material.  

[Stank_Nasty]

27 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

If they started today we would get the Browns. The Titans win has them as the #3 as we drop to #4. Cleveland is the top WC team. Of course things will probably change over the next 5 weeks. The AFC is strong this year. KC, PITT, CLE, BAL (when healthy), TEN, INDY. Whoever the Bills get on WC weekend (assuming they take care of business the final 5 weeks) they will have their hands full.

And they will be much more battle tested than last years squad that hadn’t dealt with more than the occasional solid team. Before the season plenty of people around here saw this schedule on paper and said the bills could go 10-6 again and be a better more prepared playoff squad. That’s holding to be true. People are moaning and complaining about not having a shot in the playoffs when I don’t even think it’s debatable that this years 8-3 is much more impressive and has a better foundation than last years 8-3 start. 
 

having your hands full in the playoffs is nothing new. I don’t understand all the p***ing and moaning today. We all KNOW the offense can perform. Especially in the 4th quarter. Yesterday was anomalous.  We needed to see the d step up against a good offense.  The O completely imploded in the 4th quarter and we STILL won by ten because the defense shut down a top ten offense. I came away encouraged by that. People need to get ahold of themselves. 
 

And btw I agree about the browns. That’s a bad matchup for us. But very winnable. The Browns are a team that’s played nobody and basically beaten nobody. They have a very similar feel to last years bills squad IMO. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[RichRiderBills]

1 hour ago, r00tabaga said:

How you don’t see it says more about you than it does anything else. He is our defensive MVP thru 11 games.

 Hands down.

 

I'm not even going to argue about the DMVP ...as the entire defense has been mixed and up and down. Poyer has moments, but he's inconsistant. 

[AmishRifle]

@Stank_Nasty Living in PA and received the Browns game from my wonderful CBS affiliate.  Browns running game is no joke.  Baker is not playing consistently though and missed several wide open receivers.  As for their D, Mike Glennon of the Jags, last start in 2017 or so, was dropping dimes on them all over the field.  

[Stank_Nasty]

6 minutes ago, AmishRifle said:

@Stank_Nasty Living in PA and received the Browns game from my wonderful CBS affiliate.  Browns running game is no joke.  Baker is not playing consistently though and missed several wide open receivers.  As for their D, Mike Glennon of the Jags, last start in 2017 or so, was dropping dimes on them all over the field.  

I live in Waterford Pa so I got it as well but found a bills stream. I fully understand the browns run game. Watched them plenty this year. Its easily the best backfield in the nfl and probably a top 5 O-line.  As I already stated, it’s not a great matchup for us but a very winnable game because of that defense you just talked about and the fact that I don’t think anyone thinks Mayfield is gonna be able to throw them to a win against an actual playoff team. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

If the playoffs started today the bills have 3 wins over 3 teams that would be in. Rams, Seahawks and fins. 
 

Heading into this week the bills had played 7 teams with winning records. Steelers have played 3. what schedule would you argue better preps a team for a playoff run? 
 

you’re looking really foolish here, my man. 

Not really. The dolphins aren't that good and don't belong in the playoffs. The Rams are wildly inconsistent and just lost to the 49ers. Seattle is really the only legit playoff team we've beaten. I think any unbiased football fan would agree that the Steelers (KC too) are much better than the Bills regardless of their schedule. You are foolish to suggest otherwise. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by newcam2012

[Greg S]

3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Yea any given Sunday... just think the Titans are a better team who know how to play complete games from start to finish. 

 

This is so true. Look at the Raiders. They beat the Chiefs the 1st time and then gave them a really good game the 2nd time. Yesterday they get their asses kicked by a bad Falcons team 43-6. I guess the bandwagon on the Gruden/Raiders  will get lighter this week.

Edited November 30, 2020 by Greg S

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said:

Come on man, this stuff still? They’ve played 11 games and have won 8 of them-you don’t get to that point by beating only terrible teams. You’re nitpicking the Bills and using the other teams to fit your narrative. I could easily switch around the narrative foe their losses-for the Tennessee game there was so much uncertainty including game planning for 2 teams, the weather was bad for the KC game, lucky catch on a Hail Mary to lose to Arizona, etc....I mean you’re worried about getting blown out by Pittsburgh-they have some close wins against bad teams this year! 
 

the point is every team has had some pretty suspect games this year, that being said you don’t get to 8-3 by only beating cream puffs-this isn’t college football 

Fair point. I'm not saying the Bills aren't a good football team. I do give them credit for being 8-3. I believe we will win the first round playoff game this year. What I'm saying is the Bills aren't  super bowl material! Not this year. Also, we will have our hands full with other teams like Tenn and Indy. Is it a successful season if we win one playoff game and lose the next? Perhaps, this fan is starving for that ring!

[Bob in STL]

7 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I hear what you are saying. I strongly disagree. Come playoff time it's a different animal vs the regular season. The Bills will get destroyed by the Chiefs and lose by double digits to Pitts. We just aren't in their league. Our defense isn't good enough and our offense tends to under perform vs good teams. Additionally, you talk about strength of schedule. What strong teams have the Bills beat? 

We have played a very tough schedule, and battled with injuries, and had several schedule issues related to Covid.  
 

Our  defense held SD to 17 points, prior to that they we averaging 27.   Milano coming back next week.  
 

You could not be more off the mark.  

 

[stevewin]

10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

What is he referring to when he says "First one"?

 

Also - disappointed McKittrick not rocking his usual post-game underwear look

[wjag]

10 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

This is so true. Look at the Raiders. They beat the Chiefs the 1st time and then gave them a really good game the 2nd time. Yesterday they get their asses kicked by a bad Falcons team 43-6. I guess the bandwagon on the Gruden/Raiders  will get lighter this week.

 

Should cool off the GMFB crew who were uber hyping them last week.

[Penfield45]

12 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

I disagree on Allen.  He was having a brutally efficient game in piloting the Bills to a 24 - 6 lead half way through the 3rd quarter. He was completing 75% of his passes had one TD pass and one TD run.  And hadn't made a mistake.  On their first TD drive Allen's well placed deep ball drew a PI that set up the Bills at 1st & goal. 

 

At this point Allen was playing at an A level.  Then Singleterry loses that fumble and the bottom drops out on Allen for the next two series with a careless INT and fumble.  But for most of the game Allen played very well. The Bills approached this game differently and it was working until all the weird stuff happened in the 4th quarter.

 

 

 

 

thing is, as good as Allen was playing it wasn’t good enough at the end 
 

against a better team we probably lose that game with 3 turnovers in the 4th quarter and everyone blames Allen for his mistakes 

 

he’s got to play much better than that. He’s far too inconsistent right now 

[newcam2012]

5 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

We have played a very tough schedule, and battled with injuries, and had several schedule issues related to Covid.  
 

Our  defense held SD to 17 points, prior to that they we averaging 27.   Milano coming back next week.  
 

You could not be more off the mark.  

 

I don't think my view is that far off. Our defense has been sub par. It is worrisome. We really haven't stopped the run all year and our pass rush is improving but still a concern. I believe this team has to win with Allen carrying the team. This year our defense is more a liability than an asset.

[Stank_Nasty]

41 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Not really. The dolphins aren't that good and don't belong in the playoffs. The Rams are wildly inconsistent and just lost to the 49ers. Seattle is really the only legit playoff team we've beaten. I think any unbiased football fan would agree that the Steelers (KC too) are much better than the Bills regardless of their schedule. You are foolish to suggest otherwise. 

The rams are a legit playoff team and will be there. The fins have a top 5 defense and will probably be in the playoffs. Stop dancing around solid points. 
 

the chiefs are much better than everyone. The steelers? Very good team. 10-0 because of the weakest statistical schedule coming into this week. 
 

i love how you bash your own teams schedule to make a point but totally disregard it to prove another point about Pitt. That basically shows your hand. 
 

EDIT: Fins have a top 5 d in points allowed. Not overall. So i should say a good defense, not a top 5 unit though. 

 

 

17 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I don't think my view is that far off. Our defense has been sub par. It is worrisome. We really haven't stopped the run all year and our pass rush is improving but still a concern. I believe this team has to win with Allen carrying the team. This year our defense is more a liability than an asset.

Except that’s literally the opposite of what happened yesterday. The defense came out and shut down a top ten offense. So maybe let’s wait and see on that assertion. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[YoloinOhio]

20 minutes ago, stevewin said:

What is he referring to when he says "First one"?

 

Also - disappointed McKittrick not rocking his usual post-game underwear look

First one of the 2nd part of the season?

[YattaOkasan]

12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

First one of the 2nd part of the season?

Yup.  I think the coaching staff is saying its a brand new season including the playoffs.  I'm pretty excited.  If they rise to the moment we have a special couple months coming up.

[Stank_Nasty]

20 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I realize this.  That’s why you should stop smoking bad crack.

 

yeah, he’s taken a few bad angles. Just like Pat Mahomes has thrown some bad passes.  Just like jalen Ramsey has gotten beat.  Everyone makes mistakes.  Your crack just amplifies the sensation. Poyer has been very good this year, regardless of what you’ve seen

Amen. He’s top 3-5 in basically every major stat amongst safeties. True utility player. 
 

it’s too bad it’s the guys like Jamal adams getting all the hype because they blow up a teams rb or TE for a sack once a game. Does that guy even TRY to cover anymore? 

[r00tabaga]

1 hour ago, Penfield45 said:

thing is, as good as Allen was playing it wasn’t good enough at the end 
 

against a better team we probably lose that game with 3 turnovers in the 4th quarter and everyone blames Allen for his mistakes 

 

he’s got to play much better than that. He’s far too inconsistent right now 

Another less than amazing take.

 Thank you for your contributions here.

well done

 

INT was bc his arm got hit. Every QB throws picks. Rodgers, Mr Ketchup, Herbert, you name it.

 

His snap/fumble was a product of him being a gamer and not wanting to give up on that play. Herbert made a play on his snap/fumble and it was part of the highlight pkg on ESPN.

 

Josh is not wildly inconsistent. He’s the 3rd best QB in AFC and now we have a franchise guy...a leader.... and ur not happy 👎

Edited November 30, 2020 by r00tabaga

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

4 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

This is 100% true, but it's also true for the entire team. 

 

For years now, the whole "Bills should have an advantage in bad weather," reputation hasn't applied. It seems to help opposing teams more than it helps us. We tend to squeak by with wins against the bad teams in those conditions, but good teams often make less mistakes and turn the ball over less. 

 

Every time I see our offense in an indoor venue, I feel much safer. Then I imagine if that was our home field + our fans, and I can't help but dream of a nice, indoor Bills stadium in the future 😁

 

Hoping they do move next weeks game to Arizona!