Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 He said the conditions weren't really that bad. Wind gusts here and there. The Bills ran it so much because NE constantly had 7 defensive backs on the field. NE ran it so much because the Bills have a bad run defense and wanted to big boy us....plus they don't trust Cam. Belicheck was afraid of us throwing all over him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: He said the conditions weren't really that bad. Wind gusts here and there. The Bills ran it so much because NE constantly had 7 defensive backs on the field. NE ran it so much because the Bills have a bad run defense and wanted to big boy us....plus they don't trust Cam. Belicheck was afraid of us throwing all over him? Yeah - we checked into a lot of runs because it was a light box too. Like BB was daring Allen to try and do stupid stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: He said the conditions weren't really that bad. Wind gusts here and there. The Bills ran it so much because NE constantly had 7 defensive backs on the field. NE ran it so much because the Bills have a bad run defense and wanted to big boy us....plus they don't trust Cam. Belicheck was afraid of us throwing all over him? I saw that break down somewhere else this morning too. Yep, teams are afraid of Josh and our WRs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: He said the conditions weren't really that bad. Wind gusts here and there. The Bills ran it so much because NE constantly had 7 defensive backs on the field. NE ran it so much because the Bills have a bad run defense and wanted to big boy us....plus they don't trust Cam. Belicheck was afraid of us throwing all over him? Bills tried to do the samething with Chiefs and make them run too. I wonder if this is going to be the trend on defense for the rest of the year against teams who can pass (leaguewide that is). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Daboll and Josh need to stick with the run of that is the case. What was driving me nuts yesterday was when we would get cute on offense and it would result in a negative play. We could have run left every time for positive yardage every time. Just keep running if teams play us in a dime all game long. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Yeah hopefully the run game continues to improve. We need a counter to teams playing a deep zone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I saw that break down somewhere else this morning too. Yep, teams are afraid of Josh and our WRs. When was the last time a team was afraid of our passing game? 1995? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 also I like was SF did last week - use speed on the edge as a counter to the run left - WR screens or jet end-around call here and there to attach the edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: When was the last time a team was afraid of our passing game? 1995? 8 games in 2002. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He said the conditions weren't really that bad. Wind gusts here and there. The Bills ran it so much because NE constantly had 7 defensive backs on the field. NE ran it so much because the Bills have a bad run defense and wanted to big boy us....plus they don't trust Cam. Belicheck was afraid of us throwing all over him? Yes - Sal mentioned they defended the Bills the same way the Bills defended the Chiefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthekeg Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Daboll and Josh need to stick with the run of that is the case. What was driving me nuts yesterday was when we would get cute on offense and it would result in a negative play. We could have run left every time for positive yardage every time. Just keep running if teams play us in a dime all game long. It seems like they always have one or two plays were they do that. Always around the 25-30 yard line, a sweep, or qb run or something that bites them in the butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, dneveu said: Yeah - we checked into a lot of runs because it was a light box too. Like BB was daring Allen to try and do stupid stuff. Hmmm, seems like I remember a young BB doing something like that as a Def Coordinator in a Super Bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, fergie's ire said: Hmmm, seems like I remember a young BB doing something like that as a Def Coordinator in a Super Bowl. That and having his players fall over injured after completions 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Hope everyone likes Vanilla because I have a feeling it's McClapper's new favorite flavor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 The Bills took a page out of NEs book.. which is when you're not playing a great team, if you just do your job, then 9 times out of 10 the other team will eventually hand you the game. And fortunately enough, the drop by Davis in the end zone wasn't the play that flipped this script back into NEs favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Hope everyone likes Vanilla because I have a feeling it's McClapper's new favorite flavor. Because we ran the ball? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 The best thing about Sal is he is not pay per click 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Whenever Bills tried to get pats to jump offside they ended up getting false start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He said the conditions weren't really that bad. Wind gusts here and there. The Bills ran it so much because NE constantly had 7 defensive backs on the field. NE ran it so much because the Bills have a bad run defense and wanted to big boy us....plus they don't trust Cam. Belicheck was afraid of us throwing all over him? That makes sense. I'm hoping that some of the Bills' success at running the ball yesterday was due to the Bills getting better at it, but the Patriot focus on stopping the passing game had to be a significant factor in it's success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, Gregthekeg said: It seems like they always have one or two plays were they do that. Always around the 25-30 yard line, a sweep, or qb run or something that bites them in the butt. exactly. Something that would kill the drive and put them in 3rd and long. I would have run, run, run all day yesterday— even on 3rd down and medium. Just run up the middle. It was working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Hope everyone likes Vanilla because I have a feeling it's McClapper's new favorite flavor. With the next opponent being Seattle, and high flying QB Russell Wilson, and pleasant weather conditions looking likely, Buffalo will likely shoot for a balanced attack. They'll try to run some to run clock and keep the ball away from Wilson, but I think they know they'll have to be able to get some chunk plays through the air too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, Gregthekeg said: It seems like they always have one or two plays were they do that. Always around the 25-30 yard line, a sweep, or qb run or something that bites them in the butt. We do it too predictably sometimes. I understand why we do it, it's been successful for us a lot. But when I know its coming watching it from the couch, the D does too and now we're 2nd and 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Because we ran the ball? Looks nothing like the offense we had the first 4 weeks now they look like the same old predictable Buffalo Bills. Just trying not to lose instead of trying to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Hope everyone likes Vanilla because I have a feeling it's McClapper's new favorite flavor. You prefer that he throw the ball with 7 DBs out there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Hope everyone likes Vanilla because I have a feeling it's McClapper's new favorite flavor. 6-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Looks nothing like the offense we had the first 4 weeks now they look like the same old predictable Buffalo Bills. Just trying not to lose instead of trying to win. You think he McDermott doesn't want to score points or something? So basically, New England puts seven defensive backs out there and you're not happy we ran? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: You prefer that he throw the ball with 7 DBs out there? I definitely think that they could’ve mixed in more bubble screens and short zone throws to keep the offense moving if they wanted, but the fact is that they scored 24 points (which should have been 28 if not for a brutal drop) in a windstorm and got the job done. JWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You think he McDermott doesn't want to score points or something? So basically, New England puts seven defensive backs out there and you're not happy we ran? Nope should have cost us the game if not for the fumble. Other teams are put in the same position and they have no problems Edited November 2, 2020 by ALLEN1QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 There is no way the Pats win a shoot out with the Bills. They dared them to run and the Bills did for 190 yds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, ALLEN1QB said: Nope should have cost us the game if not for the fumble. Other teams are put in the same position and they have no problems How so? A drop by Davis on 3rd and goal cost the team 4 points and a 28-21 lead. That was a pass play by the way. Games aren’t proverbially “won” very often in the NFL—as per Belichick himself, most games are lost, not won. I’ve watched NE****** win games because other teams gave it away for 20 years. J.W.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Nope should have cost us the game if not for the fumble. Other teams are put in the same position and they have no problems Yeah like the Saints up 10 in the 4th They got lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He said the conditions weren't really that bad. Wind gusts here and there. The Bills ran it so much because NE constantly had 7 defensive backs on the field. NE ran it so much because the Bills have a bad run defense and wanted to big boy us....plus they don't trust Cam. Belicheck was afraid of us throwing all over him? Joe B and Fairburn said the same thing. The flags on the goal posts were blowing but down on field level it wasn’t too windy. The rain seems to stop in the first half too. Belichick emulated what other defenses have done the past 4 weeks - disguised looks, dropped 6 players, and had 2 players deep. I think the difference was that the Bills ran it better than they would have liked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Looks nothing like the offense we had the first 4 weeks now they look like the same old predictable Buffalo Bills. Just trying not to lose instead of trying to win. They were playing 7 DB's most of the game to take away the passing game so you adapt and run. The Bills won quit being such a killjoy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I definitely think that they could’ve mixed in more bubble screens and short zone throws to keep the offense moving if they wanted, but the fact is that they scored 24 points (which should have been 28 if not for a brutal drop) in a windstorm and got the job done. JWB You know I just looked at the Drops numbers on PFR advanced stats and G.Davis is still showing no drops this season (and the stats are updated). So wth constitutes a drop then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Nope should have cost us the game if not for the fumble. Other teams are put in the same position and they have no problems So basically you want to throw on 7 defensive backs. So the game plan that the Chiefs played against us by running when we had 7 defensive backs on the field was wrong. They should have just thrown all day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: So basically you want to throw on 7 defensive backs. So the game plan that the Chiefs played against us by running when we had 7 defensive backs on the field was wrong. They should have just thrown all day. Yes - deep throws too 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Hope everyone likes Vanilla because I have a feeling it's McClapper's new favorite flavor. Always been his favorite...... BTW teams are also afaid of Mahomes passing, Rodgers, Brees, Wilson, Dak, Brady....... So what, you have a stud and receivers that can overcome it? Great back to 175 yard passing games? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: You know I just looked at the Drops numbers on PFR advanced stats and G.Davis is still showing no drops this season (and the stats are updated). So wth constitutes a drop then? PFR doesn’t usually update until Wednesday IIRC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I saw that break down somewhere else this morning too. Yep, teams are afraid of Josh and our WRs. I think with NE. It was trying to get some Speed on the field. That defense is so freaking slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: He said the conditions weren't really that bad. Wind gusts here and there. The Bills ran it so much because NE constantly had 7 defensive backs on the field. NE ran it so much because the Bills have a bad run defense and wanted to big boy us....plus they don't trust Cam. Belicheck was afraid of us throwing all over him? Just like he did in the 1990 SB against us with that 6 DB package. I wish we had a Thurman Thomas like RB that could just destroy you if you go into that 6 CB look on defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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