Matt_In_NH Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Based on what I have seen from him I hope we do t need to use him much. Hopefully his lack of ability to make people miss is related to his toe. Singletary is much better right now. today is a game your franchise qb puts the team in his back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 10 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I’d like to see Diggs, Beasley, Davis dominate tomorrow. I don’t really care about the running backs. They are both meh Get the RBs going and it’ll make Diggs, Beasley and Davis job that much easier the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) W Edited October 25, 2020 by JMF2006 somehow the wrong thread opened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 You’re in luck! It’s in season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, JPP said: Jets cant stop a nose bleed...hell they cant even stop a sniffle...... Then my advice to them would be to lay off the ammonia inhalants! Edited October 25, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Any way we can borrow Derrick Henry this week? That is a RB I would like to see in a Bills uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) Singletary in the first 10 weeks of the season last year had these attempt numbers: Week 1: 4 Week 2: 6 Week 7: 7 Week 8: 3 Week 9: 20 Week 10: 8 After that they figured he got it and he never again had single digits. Does that look a bit familiar? Wait a bit. It'll come for Moss. Edited October 25, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 IDK maybe its his toe, but he does not look good. He doesn't hit the hole with any purpose, can't make anyone miss, and I'm still waiting to see him power over or through someone. Singletary is the guy without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 12 hours ago, jahnyc said: It would really help the offense if Moss started showing something. Hard to tell if the lack of any production is due to a complete failure by the o-line to create holes, but I am concerned that he seems slow. I hope that this is not the case. He's undoubtedly slow. That was the case in college too. Speed shouldn't matter too much at the RB position, particularly with his running style. He's just not bouncing off/making tacklers whiff the way he showed in college. He showed tremendous contact balance at Utah, much like Singletary did at FAU and that is probably the most important trait in a RB IMO. It hasn't really carried over to the NFL for Moss so far the way it has for Singletary. Hopefully he regains that as he gets healthier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Why would anyone want this based on what we have seen this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 12 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Let's see here. Devin Singletary 4.3 ypc Zack Moss 2.6 ypc ? Isn't this simple. No pre season. No chance to get in a rhythm with the oline. Tweaking oline has hurt both of them but more so moss who doesn't have the luxury of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I’d like to see the O line run block so Singletary can work his magic, Nuthin against Moss but he’s the give the #1 RB a breather guy at this point. I do hope he kicks azs when his number is called, lots of potential with him. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: Isn't this simple. No pre season. No chance to get in a rhythm with the oline. Tweaking oline has hurt both of them but more so moss who doesn't have the luxury of experience. We are 4-2 and playoff bound. You do that type of thing when you have the luxury to do so either because you are 2-4 or when you have secured the highest spot you can. If we get a big lead then sure. Feed the kid the rock all 4th quarter long. They have actually already given Moss a larger workload than Singletary had his Rookie year. If we want to see more of the kid then our D needs to play better. Edited October 25, 2020 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Singletary in the first 10 weeks of the season last year had these attempt numbers: Week 1: 4 Week 2: 6 Week 7: 7 Week 8: 3 Week 9: 20 Week 10: 8 After that they figured he got it and he never again had single digits. Does that look a bit familiar? Wait a bit. It'll come for Moss. Moss has actually carried more than Singletary did to begin his Rookie year. I suspect it's to make up for lost preseason reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 Figure this is worth a bump. He played better than Singletary and got the carries with game on line. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 10 touches 72 yards. 6.7 ypc. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Kid looked good out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 He did. I was surprised they were able to run the ball as well as they did down the stretch. It helps the defense had to double cover a WR every play. I remain consistent with my feelings on these RBs. No home run hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: Figure this is worth a bump. He played better than Singletary and got the carries with game on line. Yeah, seeing the Bills willingly feed him late was one of things that make you go hmmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: 10 touches 72 yards. 6.7 ypc. Just saying. 47 yards divided by 7 carries equal to 6.7 ypc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: 47 yards divided by 7 carries equal to 6.7 ypc Touches. He also had 3 catches for 25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: Touches. He also had 3 catches for 25. Yes indeed. I hope to see him play more and push Singletary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 He looked better today, actually looked like he has a little speed, that said, I really question if he has any vision. DS is just too slow, he takes forever in the hole. The one nice hole he got on the left side would have been a TD with Henry running the ball, there’s a huge difference between the theory that RBs are a dime a dozen and having one that shows it’s not the case. Ask the Rams how life without Gurley is going, look at the difference maker Henry is, there is just a lack of talent at RB in the league if everyone is just the same. The Bills should have been looking at Dobbins or Swift this year, but instead they settle for mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Moss looked pretty good in the second half. We might be better off letting him start the game against NE and see if he can’t have a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just gonna bump this again since so many of the responses aged so well. On 10/24/2020 at 9:23 PM, Bangarang said: Hard pass This one in particular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Just gonna bump this again since so many of the responses aged so well. This one in particular If you want to puff your chest then go ahead. When you suggested this, Moss had done little to nothing to deserve being a featured back. It shouldn’t be a coincidence that getting Mongo back greatly improved the run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bangarang said: If you want to puff your chest then go ahead. When you suggested this, Moss had done little to nothing to deserve being a featured back. It shouldn’t be a coincidence that getting Mongo back greatly improved the run game. My point was he needed more touches to get in a rhythm. Everyone went off like you just did. When he got more touches he was good. So yes. I will because there was logic behind it not just some random thought. And moss was very good last week too. No Mongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 I would like to see more of what I saw today. He and Singletary make for very complementary backs. I don't foresee either putting together consecutive games where one gets 100 yards, but running back my committee works well for what we have: a pass first offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) I think Moss is a piece. Singletary is a piece. They are missing their Mecole Hardman, whether or not it is a RB or WR, Moss and Single don’t offer the game changing breakaway TDs. Id like to see them get a legit 3rd guy that plays STs, is lightning, can catch the ball and be our upgraded McKenzie. Edited November 1, 2020 by EmotionallyUnstable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Just gonna bump this again since so many of the responses aged so well. This one in particular Moss was used the same way he has been and should continue to be used: situationally, in the red zone He continues to be ineffective between the 20s unless the line has opened up a massive hole. They need Singletary's elusiveness to actually create opportunities in any other situation Neither guy seems to be able to break a huge one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: My point was he needed more touches to get in a rhythm. Everyone went off like you just did. When he got more touches he was good. So yes. I will because there was logic behind it not just some random thought. And moss was very good last week too. No Mongo. He was averaging 3.6 ypc when you suggested this. You just threw crap at the wall hoping something would stick and lucky for you it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: He was averaging 3.6 ypc when you suggested this. You just threw crap at the wall hoping something would stick and lucky for you it did. No. I used common sense. How was he going to be effective with no pre season and when he is use to 20+ carries a game...give him a shot. And it worked. 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: Moss was used the same way he has been and should continue to be used: situationally, in the red zone He continues to be ineffective between the 20s unless the line has opened up a massive hole. They need Singletary's elusiveness to actually create opportunities in any other situation Neither guy seems to be able to break a huge one. Huh? Go back and watch last 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: No. I used common sense. How was he going to be effective with no pre season and when he is use to 20+ carries a game...give him a shot. And it worked. Huh? Go back and watch last 2 games. Common sense said to give more carries to a guy who wasn’t being effective with the carries he was already getting? Okay dude. You threw crap at the wall and it just so happened that it worked when we got our best run blocker back. Guess what? Singletary also had a good game too. Kudos to you. Try not to break your arm patting yourself on tue back Edited November 1, 2020 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: If you want to puff your chest then go ahead. When you suggested this, Moss had done little to nothing to deserve being a featured back. It shouldn’t be a coincidence that getting Mongo back greatly improved the run game. I was just searching around for a thread on this! Mongo had a huge impact on that OL.. Bates also had a great block on that 20 yard Moss run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Common sense said to give more carries to a guy who wasn’t being effective with the carries he was already getting? Okay dude. You threw crap at the wall and it just so happened that it worked when we got our best run blocker back. Guess what? Singletary also had a good game too. Kudos to you. Try not to break your arm patting yourself on tue back What about last game. You haven't exactly given me anything to show otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Huh? Go back and watch last 2 games. No, you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: What about last game. You haven't exactly given me anything to show otherwise. 3.6 ypc before today. Or is that not something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Moss needed 3.6 yards on this carry. Mongo helped him out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 Gotta say loved Moss closing the game last night. Ran hard. Good vision. Ad the fact that Mcd gave him a chance after the fumbles last week is impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 6:34 PM, Hebert19 said: Dude had 700+ carries in college. He has had 1 here 1 there and is running like he is trying not to make a mistake. I'd like to see what happens if he got into a rhythm. He hasn't shown much yet but his style is more suited to wearing a team down not getting 3 carries a game. Thoughts. So far i've not been real impressed with Moss i wanted a bigger back i was hoping they would get a guy like Antonio Gibson or A.J. Dillon to be a bigger back to compliment Singletary . It seems as though they were hoping Moss could be that but he's the same size as Singletary and although he was a good back i don't see him as complimentary to motor . In todays NFL having a RB by committee RB's can't get into a rhythm like they use to King Henry wouldn't be doing what he is if he only had 15 carries a game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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