Big Turk Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Honestly cannot think of a single player who played well for the Bills today. Seemed like the entire team took turns making gaffes all game long. Maybe Yeldon with that TD catch and long run but that was in garbage time where the Titans were expecting passes so that doesn't really count...he also had a drop. But he did pick up some key 1st downs also. So I guess Yeldon would be my pick if I had to pick someone....when TJ Yeldon is the best player on the field for you, it definitely was not a good night. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Bass 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Diggs, maybe? But yeah pretty much nobody else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It happens, sometimes you come out flat and tonight there were a million factors working against us. Take stock - we're still in first place in the East and are 4-1. Just reload, get healthy and see what we can do on Monday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The punter. That punt COULD have turned the game. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I thought Beasley also played well in the second half. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfanmiamioh said: Diggs, maybe? But yeah pretty much nobody else. Diggs had 3 drops by my count 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Beasley. Want to say Diggs too but he had 3 drops to go with his 10 catches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Yeldon and Beasley both played very well, Daboll should have gotten Beasley involved in the 1st half. That's about it though. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Success said: The punter. That punt COULD have turned the game. He also made a high school mistake on the FG attempt and showed Bass full laces. That is inexcusable for an NFL placeholder. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Please just make sure Dawkins doesn’t make this list or anyone in the D front 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Yeldon was literally the only person who impressed me. Most everyone else was either a minor let down or a huge let down. If that’s a poor game from Allen, we’re in great shape, because you can still win with that, provided your defense isn’t a travesty. Diggs was solid, but even he had drops. Bass had a nice FG where Bojo again bungled the hold.. but I expect Bass to hit that. Also, the fact Bass stands out tonight tells me how bad everyone else not named Allen, Diggs and Yeldon were. Beasley and Davis has their moments. The Davis TD grab was nice, even though it was called back. Edited October 14, 2020 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I thought both Beasley was "money" early in the 2nd half when we needed to get something going. 6 receptions on 6 targets for 53 yds not bad especially when they were tough grabs, mostly. Diggs had a decent game too. Less catches per target than normal because Josh was forcing the ball to him too much. 10/16 for 106 yds still not bad. But yeah, there's a lot longer list of players I thought had bad games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 G. Davis for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Diggs had 3 drops by my count I'd have to look at them again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I thought both Beasley was "money" early in the 2nd half when we needed to get something going. 6 receptions on 6 targets for 53 yds not bad especially when they were tough grabs, mostly. Diggs had a decent game too. Less catches per target than normal because Josh was forcing the ball to him too much. 10/16 for 106 yds still not bad. But yeah, there's a lot longer list of players I thought had bad games. Diggs played OK. He also had 3 drops which prevented me from putting him on this list. I mean you are so good normally that 10 catches for 106 yards just gets you an OK, that is pretty good... Beasley did well when they focused on him but where was he in the 1st half? Edited October 14, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Only 2 Beasley & Yeldon .....that's it.....out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: G. Davis for sure Agreed. He was a bright spot in an otherwise soul sucking pit of absolute gut wrenching despair. He is a keeper for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Bass Offensive line Bojo Beasley Yeldon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Please just make sure Dawkins doesn’t make this list or anyone in the D front 7 I mean, was the o-line really the problem? Josh had plenty of time to throw, for the most part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, BadboyBills said: This is a good learning game, knocked us down a peg. Two cranky teams next Monday. Will be interesting. For definition of "knocked us down a peg" equal to "punched us in the chin, knocked us flat, stole our lunch money, and kicked us in the ribs as it strolled off" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: G. Davis for sure I would like to know how frequently he is getting open though. Not that I'm expecting a 4th round rookie to do it all, I just don't know how his route running has been. Today he was our #2 WR and our passing offense took a hit. I don't think he's ready to step into that role yet. Edited October 14, 2020 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Biggest problem is the D. That side of the ball is a complete disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Yeldon and Beasley both played very well, Daboll should have gotten Beasley involved in the 1st half. That's about it though. If Beasley is open and Josh forces a ball to a double/triple covered receiver is that on Josh or Daboll? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: Bass Offensive line Bojo Beasley Yeldon Bojo cannot get a good game when you make an inexcusable hold and give the kicker full laces. That is something even looked down at in HS. In the NFL it is simply inexcusable and very well could have resulted in a missed FG just for that reason. Yes he had an amazing punt but you can't make that type of mistake in the NFL as a placeholder. Edited October 14, 2020 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Diggs had 3 drops by my count Diggs brought me from 14 back to win my fantasy game. So Diggs is my MVP tonight. even though it was an unspectacular performance for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, mannc said: I mean, was the o-line really the problem? Josh had plenty of time to throw, for the most part... Dawkins whiffed on that bad sack...Allen had time mostly because they were dropping defenders into coverage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I would like to know how frequently he is getting open though. Not that I'm expecting a 4th round rookie to do it all, I just don't know how his route running has been. Today he was our #2 WR and our passing offense took a hit. I don't think he's ready to step into that role yet. Our passing offense took a hit because Allen wasn’t finding the open man and taking what defense gives him. There was a few times in first half where Allen was forcing balls to covered receivers instead of taking the easy throw to a wide open one. Allen played like 2019 Josh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Honestly I see some people mention Beasley. When I saw Smoke was out, I put money on Beasley’s over for yards and Josh was forcing it to Diggs in the first half and we moved the ball more easily when he started looking his way in the second. I was a little confused why he didn’t do that in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Diggs had a good game statistically, but he didn't play with that energy and edge he played with in the first 4 games. The Bills need him to be the "emotional leader" on the field, because that was something that was surely lacking from him today and that lack of emotion trickled down to the entire team. Edited October 14, 2020 by Special K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: If Beasley is open and Josh forces a ball to a double/triple covered receiver is that on Josh or Daboll? I don't think we can give a blanket answer to that. It depends. Probably on Josh, but it could be a bit on the OL or on Daboll. Ultimately, Josh shouldn't be forcing throws into a triple covered Diggs, or a double-covered Davis. But when you see an open receiver whether that's a reasonable alternative or not, to my understanding depends on the direction of the reads on the play and whether the OL gives Josh enough time to get to that read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Special K said: Diggs had a good game statistically, but he didn't play with that energy and edge he played with in the first 4 games. The Bills need him to be the "emotional leader" on the field, because that was something that was surely lacking from him, and that lack of emotion trickled down to the entire team today. The team just looked flat...almost if they thought they would just waltz in and get an easy W. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Not at the table Karlos said: Our passing offense took a hit because Allen wasn’t finding the open man and taking what defense gives him. There was a few times in first half where Allen was forcing balls to covered receivers instead of taking the easy throw to a wide open one. Allen played like 2019 Josh. Yep. He turned it around in the second half before the awful pick but he was definitely forcing it and not taking the easy yards early on. It just reeks of one of those games you just watch a little film to show the problems but overall just forget it and move on quickly. (Almost) Every team has some stinkers every year, hope this was just one of a couple for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: Honestly I see some people mention Beasley. When I saw Smoke was out, I put money on Beasley’s over for yards and Josh was forcing it to Diggs in the first half and we moved the ball more easily when he started looking his way in the second. I was a little confused why he didn’t do that in the first. So was Josh Just my $0.02 but I think having given up the TD on the INT, Josh was trying to make big plays for a while and not taking what the D was giving him. The zebras were also letting their DBs be pretty "handsy" 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: The team just looked flat...almost if they thought they would just waltz in and get an easy W. They were playing like there was someplace else they would rather have been and they weren't really revved up and ready, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think we can give a blanket answer to that. It depends. Probably on Josh, but it could be a bit on the OL or on Daboll. Ultimately, Josh shouldn't be forcing throws into a triple covered Diggs, or a double-covered Davis. But when you see an open receiver whether that's a reasonable alternative or not, to my understanding depends on the direction of the reads on the play and whether the OL gives Josh enough time to get to that read. Josh had enough time and the open WR was on the side of field he was reading for at least two of the forced passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So was Josh Just my $0.02 but I think having given up the TD on the INT, Josh was trying to make big plays for a while and not taking what the D was giving him. The zebras were also letting their DBs be pretty "handsy" They were playing like there was someplace else they would rather have been and they weren't really revved up and ready, for sure. Those many mental mistakes in pretty much every area of the game were very uncharacteristic of a McD coached team. He preaches not to beat yourself and for the most part they don't. But they did tonight repeatedly... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: If Beasley is open and Josh forces a ball to a double/triple covered receiver is that on Josh or Daboll? I don't know where this narrative came from, I think Allen forced maybe 2 or 3 passes to Diggs that he shouldn't have. Sometimes QBs force the ball to their #1 WR. That is the last thing that concerns me about the offense tonight. If Allen was not going through his progressions that is a different problem. The all-22 will be helpful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Virgil said: Bass Offensive line Bojo Beasley Yeldon To the bolded, too many penalties and not great in the run game although in their defense we barley tried to run much in this game since we were down big for most of it. But when we did try to run it wasn't pretty. I think Davis continues to shine as a rookie. Don't remember if he had a drop or not (feels like every receiver had at least one in this game) but he had some nice grabs including the called back TD. I think Davis also had a penalty too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, HappyDays said: I don't know where this narrative came from, I think Allen forced maybe 2 or 3 passes to Diggs that he shouldn't have. Sometimes QBs force the ball to their #1 WR. That is the last thing that concerns me about the offense tonight. If Allen was not going through his progressions that is a different problem. The all-22 will be helpful. Those two or three passes killed drives and on those two or three passes he had an open receiver, one of them Beasley where he was looking right at him and chose to throw it into triple coverage. That’s on Josh not Daboll. Daboll did his job scheming a receiver open and starting joshs read there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I thought Beasley also played well in the second half. I thought Beasley played well when the ball was thrown his way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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