CLTbills Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Chill out. One game. One of the two "misses" was actually good as documented by the CBS crew. No need to pull out the pitchforks yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 56 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: serious question, but was that inside 40? I thought it was a little longer. He missed a 34 and a 53 yarder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I don't want to "take my lumps" in the first season in a long time where we are championship caliber. Two years ago, sure I wouldn't care if we had a rookie kicker. For all the hate Hauschka has gotten on here he was one of the main reasons we got to overtime against Houston. I didn't agree with us cutting him in favor of a rookie and this game only pushed me harder in that direction. Which is why you’re so salty The rookie kicker missed one fg. Can’t wait for bills mafia to blow up social media frying the kid for the entire week adding more fuel to the fire. move on. Edited September 14, 2020 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Bass is an easy miss away from being cut. A kicker almost always has a short leash, let alone a kicker who hasn't really proven anything. And considering that a bad kicker can cost you games I think Bass can't afford another chip shot miss. Bass didn't cost the team the game but he flubbed 6 points and took what should have been a wire to wire blowout and made it a bit tighter. He flubbed 3 points and the refs flubbed the other 3. But as for being on a short leash, with whom you do replace him? Hauschka can't KO and has become spotty himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 This thread is the perfect example of why I try to stay away from tsw on game day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: He flubbed 3 points and the refs flubbed the other 3. But as for being on a short leash, with whom you do replace him? Hauschka can't KO and has become spotty himself. On a field goal in that range he shouldn't have a kick be that close to where the refs can miss it. As for his replacement, I am not sure what free agent kickers are out there but they can't keep trotting out Bass if he keeps missing gimmie field goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, billsfan89 said: On a field goal in that range he shouldn't have a kick be that close to where the refs can miss it. As for his replacement, I am not sure what free agent kickers are out there but they can't keep trotting out Bass if he keeps missing gimmie field goals. While a valid criticism, he still made it. Again I've never seen the refs miss a FG call before and I doubt that's the first time that's happened. And if there were kickers out there who were consistent, they'd be signed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) It was a pretty shaky start for the young man but let's not jump out of windows yet. Also, House is sitting home sipping on a glass a wine and is just a phone call away. Edited September 14, 2020 by ColoradoBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, Doc said: While a valid criticism, he still made it. Again I've never seen the refs miss a FG call before and I doubt that's the first time that's happened. And if there were kickers out there who were consistent, they'd be signed already. I agree there aren't likely to be any good kickers out on the market, but I would rather take a chance on a guy off the street than a rookie who keeps missing kicks? How many missed easy kicks does it take for him to be cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Doc said: He missed a 34 and a 53 yarder. I believe it was a 34 and 38 yarder. Not a good day for the rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 He has to become more consistent, and he has to do it quickly, but I'm not going to panic. He's a rookie who has never kicked in the NFL. This year was unique, denying Bass of the opportunity to even attempt a preseason field goal. Yes, as a kicker, he faced pressure situations in college, but pressure in the NFL is at an entirely different level. As I said, he needs to discover some consistency quickly, but it did not shock me that he struggled in his first game. I'm just glad the game wasn't closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: It’s really not that simple. Technically he missed two and they were chip shot field goals. If he missed a couple 50 yarders, ok. But a 38 and 34 yarder is cut worthy. He didn’t miss 2. Think w/e you like. He MADE the FG. The ref called it wrong. He did his part. That FG was good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Why can’t they just extend the the field goals 10 feet and problem solved. He’s a rookie kicker who had a shaky 1st day. I think he will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaaBills Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 https://youtu.be/Y4fI3TruAOw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I agree there aren't likely to be any good kickers out on the market, but I would rather take a chance on a guy off the street than a rookie who keeps missing kicks? How many missed easy kicks does it take for him to be cut? Ask me the next time it happens. Which could be next weekend, but hopefully not. 1 minute ago, VW82 said: I believe it was a 34 and 38 yarder. Not a good day for the rookie. I was talking about Hausch last year against Cleveland. Today he missed just once, from 34 yards. Not good but not a reason to cut him today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, Doc said: I’ve never seen the refs missed a field goal before. Does the NFL change that in their stats? I keep reading this, but is there actually any definitive proof that they missed that call? I saw the video from the front but that’s not a definitive angle and it would be hard to believe that over the official looking straight up at the upright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, jlgarsh said: Are FGs reviewable? 1st looked good on replay 2 hours ago, Kmart128 said: Yes but if ball is higher than goalpost then its not. That ball seemed to cross right at the very top which would make it reviewable id think 25 mile an hour winds today. How many visiting K have been confounded by the winds at Rich/Ralph/Bills Stadium? 3 for 3 on XP. 3 of 4 on FG. The first one went over the upright, but was called poorly. Announcers said FGs that go over the upright are not reviewable. A bunch of Touchbacks and generally bad field position for the Jets. Laces weren't properly placed on his really bad miss. Holy moly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, vincec said: I keep reading this, but is there actually any definitive proof that they missed that call? I saw the video from the front but that’s not a definitive angle and it would be hard to believe that over the official looking straight up at the upright. The replay the showed proved it was good. I could also tell in real time. 4 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: 25 mile an hour winds today. How many visiting K have been confounded by the winds at Rich/Ralph/Bills Stadium? 3 for 3 on XP. 3 of 4 on FG. The first one went over the upright, but was called poorly. Announcers said FGs that go over the upright are not reviewable. A bunch of Touchbacks and generally bad field position for the Jets. Laces weren't properly placed on his really bad miss. Holy moly. Corey Bojorquez should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. Cookie? Edited September 14, 2020 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: 25 mile an hour winds today. How many visiting K have been confounded by the winds at Rich/Ralph/Bills Stadium? 3 for 3 on XP. 3 of 4 on FG. The first one went over the upright, but was called poorly. Announcers said FGs that go over the upright are not reviewable. A bunch of Touchbacks and generally bad field position for the Jets. Laces weren't properly placed on his really bad miss. Holy moly. Exactly, this dude played college ball in Georgia. If he didn’t play in a hurricane, I’m certain he’s never experienced those winds in game action. He’s definitely never played in a stadium with a lower bowl below ground level, miles from a Great Lake. My point is the winds don’t just travel in a single direction, they swirl in all directions at that stadium. It’s always interesting to observe the flags on top of the upper deck. I’ve seen them all flying in different directions a few times. It’s challenging to even analyze where the wind is going. Give him a chance, it’s not easy to kick there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Good game to have it happen. Give the rookie a good taste, give him a week to get his head together, come back strong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: If he did make it it was 38 yarder BARELY made... and then he missed a 35 yarder on the next drive..... I doubt they cut him this early but if he misses another chip shot or two next week they’ll consider it, IMO. Can’t really risk keeping around a kicker who is guna lose you games on kicks that should be gimmes. Barely.....lol. Ok, do you Scott. if he looks bad next week and the following, a change may be made. After this game, we just need to gtfoi and move on. The more drivel squawked about this, the worse it could potentially be for the kid who just kicked in his first nfl game. Cant wait to see how the media portrays this. Gotta get clicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, TigerJ said: He has to become more consistent, and he has to do it quickly, but I'm not going to panic. He's a rookie who has never kicked in the NFL. This year was unique, denying Bass of the opportunity to even attempt a preseason field goal. Yes, as a kicker, he faced pressure situations in college, but pressure in the NFL is at an entirely different level. As I said, he needs to discover some consistency quickly, but it did not shock me that he struggled in his first game. I'm just glad the game wasn't closer. the concern for me is he missed two easy kicks and that third one he made was even really close. This was not a pressure situation at all— no fans, comfortable lead, easy kicks. How is he going to do when the pressure is really on? i was concerned with going with a rookie kicker, and remain concerned. Let’s hope he has great mental fortitude and can get over this first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: The refs ruled it no good....therefore it’s no good.😅 I’m all for giving him time to figure ***** out...just hope it doesn’t cost them a game. If Bass misses a 35 yarder next week to win it are you going to be singing the same tune? Yes, but he made the kick. That’s the ONLY thing I care about. did you read my last reply? Your answer is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kmart128 said: Yes but if ball is higher than goalpost then its not. That ball seemed to cross right at the very top which would make it reviewable id think Yet I thought all scoring plays are reviewable by the league? I'm sorry stuff like this makes the league look bad. Edited September 14, 2020 by The Jokeman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 He pushed every kick to the right. Hope they spend the week working on the mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Probably overexcited his first game and rushed his approach, got ahead of the ball a bit which makes it go right. Just like the golf swing. But he’ll have to fix it quick. Hauschka is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I wonder if we kick the tires on chase mclaughlin Currently on the vikings practice squad Also would any vet kicker be interested in a practice squad spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I wonder if we kick the tires on chase mclaughlin Currently on the vikings practice squad Also would any vet kicker be interested in a practice squad spot? I believe I read McLaughlin is protected. Also he's 10/20 from 40-49 (but perfect everywhere else). And I think that given the choice between being unemployed and on a PS, most K's would take the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I hate kickers and I try to leave the room whenever they get on the field. I take it the new guy may have struggled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I wonder if we kick the tires on chase mclaughlin Currently on the vikings practice squad Also would any vet kicker be interested in a practice squad spot? Nick Folk was on the Patriots PS before this week. I'm sure a veteran wouldn't mind making money vs not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 hours ago, TroutDog said: Torches! Pitchforks! Get the entire town together!!! Get him!!! Get him!!!! 😃 Torches, Pitchforks and Knives.....oh my! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 It wasn't a great start, but I just reviewed the highlights of the game. Ficken's good FG kick squeaked in just inside the right upright. Bass 'first miss' was considered good by Gene Serratore during the broadcast. Bass second miss, the laces are clearly facing in toward the kicker, that can affect a kick. Always want laces out. Watch nfl.com Bills Jets Highlights @ 4:44 https://www.nfl.com/games/jets-at-bills-2020-reg-1 Poor kid got screwed by the refs on his first NFL FG kick, and then his holder did him no favors on his legitimate miss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I'm not too worry about Bass yet, let's not make the same mistake we did with Dustin Hopkins. I seen alot of missed kicks around the league today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 there’s no way i’d release the kid. He has great talent but the yips hit him today hard. He didn’t play the wind correctly. It’s mechanics and experience. If they get rid of him, you’ll see Bass kicking for someone else successfully well into the future like Dustin Hopkins. Just gotta let him play his way out of this hopefully soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 He was only 20-28 last year in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I was wondering why he didnt try to kick just a little more to his left at any point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 The only thing I'm worried about is his confidence. And he should have been 3 for 4. That was inexplicable. The push to the right is an easily fixable mechanical issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I like his game today. His kickoffs were solid & he rebounded from a horrible start. He definitely pushes the ball hard has the leg just needs to calm down & trust his leg & rotate those hips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 13 hours ago, stevestojan said: Rookie? Yes. One of his kicks might have been good? Sure. Thank god we have the Dolphins next week. If he misses one next week, he has to go. There was no reason to draft this kid if this is what he does under pressure. Nah. There are plenty of very reasonable excuses. Every kicker has bad games, every one. Now, if this becomes consistent, fair enough. But he'll get a bit more rope, and it'll be more than a week. Especially as he righted himself later in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 If he just calms down a little, he will be fine. It was rookie jitters in his first game as a Pro. If there was an issue, he would have shown it in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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