RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 so 11 pages in who was cut? I could see Robert Foster to GB and thriving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: Will Fromm be an early cut? Hmmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umangatan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, njbuff said: I guess DiMarco's damning pics of McDermott have worn out its welcome. did i miss something, lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: so 11 pages in who was cut? I could see Robert Foster to GB and thriving. Yes, because Rodgers just loves fast WR's who are bad route runners and terrible tracking the ball in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, umang_a_desai said: did i miss something, lol? You can figure out what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umangatan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: How is that a classy move? True he gets paid, but I'd be willing to bet if DeMarco could still play this year, he'd have rather been cut than placed on IR where now he sits out an entire year. He plays a position that not too many teams even use, so sitting out a full year won't help his career too much. Wouldn't be shocked to see him released with an injury settlement. Gilliam is more versatile and we know McD loves versatility. He is more of an H back TE/FB hybrid. Keeps defenses on their toes and makes sense to move on from DiMarco who is more one demesional as a FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, umang_a_desai said: Gilliam is more versatile and we know McD loves versatility. He is more of an H back TE/FB hybrid. Keeps defenses on their toes and makes sense to move on from DiMarco who is more one demesional as a FB. TE/FB hybrids are just TEs that are too small to be a matchup problem, but are also not good lead blockers like a FB. They are almost always useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: so 11 pages in who was cut? I could see Robert Foster to GB and thriving. I honestly think it might take Foster getting cut for the light to go on if it can. I say this solely based of his rookie year after he was sat for awhile and how he played afterwards. I think Foster has a ton of talent, it baffles me why he can’t put it together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, H2o said: Yes, because Rodgers just loves fast WR's who are bad route runners and terrible tracking the ball in the air. SF/GB/Philly all make sense. Their off season moves all bombed out due to injury or questionable draft day decisions. Say what you want about Foster, he has a 6 game stretch of tape that looks really good on a bad offense. And he has some speed. As John Madden used to say, 'Speed Kills'. Buffalo has J Brown and S Diggs, plenty of speed. Davante Adams is clearly WR1 in GB (says something about GB WR,) Would you rather have M. Valdez Scantling, Allen Lazard, or Geronimo Allison as your #2? Lazard and Allison failed to get separation. They are slow. MVS has been all name and no production. Foster is at worst WR #3 on that team today, and maybe #2 on physical ability alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 hours ago, eball said: Just stop. When an AP beat writer stops by, the last thing you do is what you idiots are doing. Just think what these savages would do to Chris Brown right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I honestly think it might take Foster getting cut for the light to go on if it can. I say this solely based of his rookie year after he was sat for awhile and how he played afterwards. I think Foster has a ton of talent, it baffles me why he can’t put it together. Me too. He has the size, speed, hands combo you want in a WR 2 or WR3. We have the LUXURY of Diggs, Brown and Beasley. I don't think Foster has the complicated E-Perkins system down. Put him in a more simple offense or with a more established QB and watch fireworks. We are at the point Bills nation where good players, who do not fit the system, or culture may be let go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, TheProcess said: Kind of a pet peeve of mine too. Even though either is acceptable, I prefer “with regard to” over “in regard to”. I think I was taught that way in an English class I took and it stuck. 🤷♂️ Damn. Thanks, I make that mistake too. I feel dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Not an outside LB. Gross. TJ Watt says hello... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Agent 91 said: Damn. Thanks, I make that mistake too. I feel dumb All good dude! Just something that stuck with me from class many many years ago. Believe me, I’m no expert. Far be it from me to lecture anyone on grammar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: SF/GB/Philly all make sense. Their off season moves all bombed out due to injury or questionable draft day decisions. Say what you want about Foster, he has a 6 game stretch of tape that looks really good on a bad offense. And he has some speed. As John Madden used to say, 'Speed Kills'. Buffalo has J Brown and S Diggs, plenty of speed. Davante Adams is clearly WR1 in GB (says something about GB WR,) Would you rather have M. Valdez Scantling, Allen Lazard, or Geronimo Allison as your #2? Lazard and Allison failed to get separation. They are slow. MVS has been all name and no production. Foster is at worst WR #3 on that team today, and maybe #2 on physical ability alone. Equanimeous St. Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: TE/FB hybrids are just TEs that are too small to be a matchup problem, but are also not good lead blockers like a FB. They are almost always useless. FBs are slow running backs that are always useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: TE/FB hybrids are just TEs that are too small to be a matchup problem, but are also not good lead blockers like a FB. They are almost always useless. 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: FBs are slow running backs that are always useless. Kyle Juszczyk says hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: FBs are slow running backs that are always useless. There are strategic benefits to running 21 personnel. Just ask the Pats or the 49ers. Just now, Sherlock Holmes said: Kyle Juszczyk says hello You think he is a hybrid? I always considered him a true FB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: There are strategic benefits to running 21 personnel. Just ask the Pats or the 49ers. You think he is a hybrid? I always considered him a true FB. True FB maybe, with great hands, always a danger to break a big gain because he escaped notice. H Back type is more how I see him, he is a swiss army knife/utility player for sure, definitely not useless, would love to have him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: FBs are slow running backs that are always useless. For the most part I agree. You have Vonta Leach, that’s a different story. But Kyle Williams would have been a better fullback that Pat DiMarco. When he’s on the field it means that someone more explosive is sitting on the bench. The guys that Buffalo has are bottom of the barrel, fringe NFL, borderline good enough, try-hard, lunch pail types. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: True FB maybe, with great hands, always a danger to break a big gain because he escaped notice. H Back type is more how I see him, he is a swiss army knife/utility player for sure, definitely not useless, would love to have him! A fullback is a guy that can block in space, first and foremost. A hybrid/h-back cannot do that—they are hybrids because they can do the ballcarying/pass catching part, but not the blocking part. Those guys are useless, though. If you need a pass catcher, play a TE or WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: A fullback is a guy that can block in space, first and foremost. A hybrid/h-back cannot do that—they are hybrids because they can do the ballcarying/pass catching part, but not the blocking part. Those guys are useless, though. If you need a pass catcher, play a TE or WR. But he is the only FB that can do all of those things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Sherlock Holmes said: But he is the only FB that can do all of those things... DiMarco can, just not as well. Catching the ball is just the “cherry on top” for the FB position. DiMarco isnt great, especially at go routes (famously), but he is ok at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: DiMarco can, just not as well. Catching the ball is just the “cherry on top” for the FB position. DiMarco isnt great, especially at go routes (famously), but he is ok at it. Nobody is worried about DiMarco...Juszczyk makes that catch 99 out of 100 times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 12 hours ago, nucci said: a thread about the roster is useless? This thread is now 12 pages long and is still a bunch dogs chasing a metaphorical bone; so yeah pretty useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 12 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: Will Fromm be an early cut? Good question. And will he be snapped up if he is? 11 hours ago, stevewin said: Yes - one coach said no doubt coaching is in his future. I think they will like him in QB room as someone to help Josh prepare - Fromm likely useless on that front But...but...but...all the pundits said Fromm would "challenge Josh Allen" and help him prepare! Some pundit: ""The one thing that I think that's going to be a great fit about this in Buffalo is that Jake Fromm and his intelligence, his knowledge has blown teams away during that portion. So as a backup, I think he'll be able to help Josh Allen in the meeting room as they prepare to get ready for that week's opponents" Fromm is going to be a starter! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Now that I've had time to catch up and absorb this thread - after consideration I'd have to say that the mis-use of the word 'literally' is my language/grammar pet peeve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Good question. And will he be snapped up if he is? But...but...but...all the pundits said Fromm would "challenge Josh Allen" and help him prepare! Some pundit: ""The one thing that I think that's going to be a great fit about this in Buffalo is that Jake Fromm and his intelligence, his knowledge has blown teams away during that portion. So as a backup, I think he'll be able to help Josh Allen in the meeting room as they prepare to get ready for that week's opponents" Fromm is going to be a starter! A cut tomorrow doesn’t determine Fromm won’t start in the league at some point. IF this had been a regular offseason with a regular preseason Fromm would of beat out Barkley. No doubt in my mind. Fromm has all the tools Barkley has. Fromm’s floor is Barkley. And I am not Fromm fan, just call it like I see it. I am a big UGA fan. Edited September 5, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, umang_a_desai said: did i miss something, lol? No someone is missing the fact the lame joke has been told so many times it is idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Wow, now that is POWERFUL insight. Quit being jerks. John deserves better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: FBs are slow running backs that are always useless. I'd take Sam Gash or Larry Centers over half of the RBs the Bills have chosen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, That's No Moon said: Equanimeous St. Brown Did you know he has a brother Osiris who is a WR for Stanford and a brother Amon-Ra who is a WR for USC? If those names aren’t strange enough, his parents’ last name is just Brown and their father has the most common name of John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Without searching through 12 pages, was anyone cut, yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: But Kyle Williams would have been a better fullback that Pat DiMarco. When he’s on the field it means that someone more explosive is sitting on the bench. Last time I checked, Kyle had more TD's and a higher YPC than Pat DiMarco.... 21 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I'd take Sam Gash or Larry Centers over half of the RBs the Bills have chosen. Only half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Without searching through 12 pages, was anyone cut, yet? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, ColeB said: Did you know he has a brother Osiris who is a WR for Stanford and a brother Amon-Ra who is a WR for USC? If those names aren’t strange enough, his parents’ last name is just Brown and their father has the most common name of John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, ColeB said: Did you know he has a brother Osiris who is a WR for Stanford and a brother Amon-Ra who is a WR for USC? If those names aren’t strange enough, his parents’ last name is just Brown and their father has the most common name of John. People don't take advantage of the parental perk of giving their kids kick-ass names often enough. Edited September 5, 2020 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Looks like they originally planned on activating Sweeney and changed their minds, so have to rescind the move Interesting. I wonder if they had asked a vet to consider and release and immediate re-sign and they said "nope"? I had no idea the league let you rescind. Either someone is physically able to perform or they're not, right? 6 hours ago, Monty98 said: Weak link is OLB, maybe CB. If you have a late round pick in the first use it on an OLB not a CB. Cant imagine paying Tre and another potential top corner when upfront we have to pay Milano, Edmunds, and Oliver The advantage of taking another corner in the first in 2021 is that by the time you have to think about paying him Tre's big bumper new deal is ending and he is a 31 year old corner. If you are going to do it and try and have two top flight cornerbacks 2021 is the year to pick one. Then if that guy works out in 2026 I have the choice between paying a 25/26 year old or a 31 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: He couldn't tackle in college. I thought his aggressiveness would translate into a pass rusher but I don't think McD values linebackers that rush from the outside. I really liked his pass rush potential too. And I thought if the Bills could channel his aggressiveness and improve his fundamentals they might have a player there. When you take a guy in round 5 you know there are going to be rough edges. He just never got there unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: TJ Watt says hello... TJ Watt is an edge rusher in an 3-4. @ScottLaw is on about spending a 1st on a will or a sam in a 4-3. If the Bills had drafted TJ Watt he'd be a defensive end in this scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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