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Unless something crazy happens today (and I’m not saying it won’t), with the number of opt outs thus far this will hardly be a “half-assed” season.  Right now we’re at around 60 opt outs out of roughly 2000 players, or about 3%.

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Just now, eball said:

Unless something crazy happens today (and I’m not saying it won’t), with the number of opt outs thus far this will hardly be a “half-assed” season.  Right now we’re at around 60 opt outs out of roughly 2000 players, or about 3%.

 

How many trade deadline days have turned out to be "mush ado about nothing"?

Hopefully today turns out like that - I still hope for a meaningful season. Financially, opting out makes most sense for marginal guys who had questions about even making the roster. If a bunch of those type of guys opt out, then I don't see an impact on leading to a season of compromised value. 

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17 hours ago, nucci said:

Yeah, I get that part. Feel the same way but really missed it and glad we get to see something

I did watch a lot of the habs/pens game last night.  Very high quality.  But I have noticed too that there seems to be a overall lack of hitting in all of the games.  Maybe they are all still trying to get back in game shape and don't want to get hurt.

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4 hours ago, Bulldog said:

 

How many trade deadline days have turned out to be "mush ado about nothing"?

Hopefully today turns out like that - I still hope for a meaningful season. Financially, opting out makes most sense for marginal guys who had questions about even making the roster. If a bunch of those type of guys opt out, then I don't see an impact on leading to a season of compromised value. 

I mean everyone that was really planning on it has probably already done it since they didn't know when the deadline would be. Could still be a few late deciders like Tre though.

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WOW - the silence is deafening!

 

Notice: Put on your tinfoil hats, if you got them...

 

I wonder if there is a delay in announcing Opt-outs today - just in case announcements cause a domino effect.

 

/tinfoil hats off...

 

 

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5 hours ago, eball said:

Unless something crazy happens today (and I’m not saying it won’t), with the number of opt outs thus far this will hardly be a “half-assed” season.  Right now we’re at around 60 opt outs out of roughly 2000 players, or about 3%.

And many are marginal guys who probably would not have made a roster anyway...

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55 minutes ago, richNjoisy said:

It was great to see in the article that the Bills have been one of the best at watching player safety .. that stuff matters in free agency, not as much as the $$$$, but still matters.

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This seems to be the final tally.  Bills did well compared to the rest of the Division.

 

CBS Sports is tracking all of the decisions in one place. 

49ers

WR Travis Benjamin
OT Shon Coleman

Bears

DT Eddie Goldman
S Jordan Lucas

Bengals

DL Josh Tupou

Bills

CB E.J. Gaines 
DL Star Lotulelei

Broncos

OT Ja'Wuan James 
DL Kyle Peko

Browns

DT Andrew Billings 
OT Drake Dorbeck
OG Drew Forbes
OG Colby Gossett
OG Malcolm Pridgeon

Buccaneers

OT Brad Seaton

Cardinals

OT Marcus Gilbert

Chargers

None

Chiefs

OG Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
OL Lucas Niang
RB Damien Williams

Colts

S Rolan Milligan
LB Skai Moore
S Marvell Tell

Cowboys

CB Maurice Canady  
WR Stephen Guidry
FB Jamize Olawale

Dolphins

DT Davon Godchaux
WR Allen Hurns
WR Albert Wilson II

 

Eagles

WR Marquise Goodwin

Falcons

None

Giants

CB Sam Beal
WR Da'Mari Scott 
OT Nate Solder

Jaguars

LB Lerentee McCray  
CB Rashaan Melvin
DL Al Woods

Jets

LB James Burgess
WR Josh Doctson
OL Leo Koloamatangi
LB C.J. Mosley

Lions

WR Geronimo Allison 
DL John Atkins
C Russell Bodine

Packers

WR Devin Funchess

Panthers

LB Jordan Mack
LB Christian Miller

Patriots

RB Brandon Bolden  
OT Marcus Cannon  
S Patrick Chung
LB Dont'a Hightower
TE Matt LaCosse  
WR Marqise Lee 
OL Najee Toran 
FB Danny Vitale 

Raiders

LB Ukeme Eligwe

Rams

None

Ravens

OT Andre Smith
WR De'Anthony Thomas

Saints

TE Jason Vander Laan  
TE Cole Wick

Seahawks

OG Chance Warmack

Steelers

None

Texans

DL Eddie Vanderdoes

Titans

OT Anthony McKinney

Vikings

DL Michael Pierce

Washington Football Team

DL Caleb Brantley 
LB Josh Harvey-Clemons

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Doesn’t anyone find it odd that not a single Center or QB opted out? Considering they touch the ball and each other on every play. That object also will be having many of the skill players, refs, dee players, and ball boys touching it. I know objects can carry the virus if it gets any mucus and breath on it so I was just wondering if they will be trying to sterilize the balls in some way by frequently swapping them in and out and UVing them or something.

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1 minute ago, Locomark said:

Doesn’t anyone find it odd that not a single Center or QB opted out? Considering they touch the ball and each other on every play. That object also will be having many of the skill players, refs, dee players, and ball boys touching it. I know objects can carry the virus if it gets any mucus and breath on it so I was just wondering if they will be trying to sterilize the balls in some way by frequently swapping them in and out and UVing them or something.

I was really worried about Morse with his brother and all.

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All of the concern about a flukey season due to player opt-outs was definitely overblown.  
 

That list reads like typical attrition during camps/preseason.  
 

Teams most affected by opt-outs, imo, were both in our division..  Jets have the best player to opt out in CJ Mosley and the Pats lose three starters in  Chung, Hightower and Cannon. 
 

 

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10 minutes ago, Locomark said:

Doesn’t anyone find it odd that not a single Center or QB opted out? Considering they touch the ball and each other on every play. That object also will be having many of the skill players, refs, dee players, and ball boys touching it. I know objects can carry the virus if it gets any mucus and breath on it so I was just wondering if they will be trying to sterilize the balls in some way by frequently swapping them in and out and UVing them or something.

 

 

Russell Bodine, Center

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9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

All of the concern about a flukey season due to player opt-outs was definitely overblown.  
 

That list reads like typical attrition during camps/preseason.  

 

True, but normal injuries will still happen too. I think the Patriots are the only team that will really feel their losses, their opt outs have turned them into a bottom 5 roster.

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

True, but normal injuries will still happen too. I think the Patriots are the only team that will really feel their losses, their opt outs have turned them into a bottom 5 roster.

 

A lot of that is that they didn't even try to keep their guys in free agency. 

 

 

 

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Can we all just agree that this would be the perfect season for the bills to win the Super Bowl? You know that if they did nobody would take their championship seriously because of the opt-outs. It would be so billsy 

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1 hour ago, Bills!Win! said:

 Can we all just agree that this would be the perfect season for the bills to win the Super Bowl? You know that if they did nobody would take their championship seriously because of the opt-outs. It would be so billsy 

 

I think we can all agree upon that. 

 

EVERY year!    :)

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9 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

Can we all just agree that this would be the perfect season for the bills to win the Super Bowl? You know that if they did nobody would take their championship seriously because of the opt-outs. It would be so billsy 

 

You mean the fewer than 3% opt outs with no superstars in that mix?  This season will feel a bit odd because of COVID and no fans in the stands, not the opt outs, and as long as they keep any outbreaks from happening they are still playing pro football and a Super Bowl championship will be perfectly legitimate.

 

Nobody puts an asterisk next to Washington’s SB win over Miami and they only played a 9-game season.

 

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46 minutes ago, eball said:

 

You mean the fewer than 3% opt outs with no superstars in that mix?  This season will feel a bit odd because of COVID and no fans in the stands, not the opt outs, and as long as they keep any outbreaks from happening they are still playing pro football and a Super Bowl championship will be perfectly legitimate.

 

Nobody puts an asterisk next to Washington’s SB win over Miami and they only played a 9-game season.

 

 

Ha Ha - You just did. ? 

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15 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

A lot of that is that they didn't even try to keep their guys in free agency. 

 

 

 

They didn't have much cap to work with this year.  They franchise tagged Joe Thuney which ate up most of what they had.  They also took a pretty good cap hit ($13.5 M and $4.5 M)  with Tommy Boy and Antonio Brown.  They received some cap space now that they had some guys opt out.

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I’d put the Bills at about -10 right now in their opener against the Jets.  No Adams, no Moseley, and with the continuity the Bills are bringing to the table this one could be a rout.

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29 minutes ago, eball said:

I’d put the Bills at about -10 right now in their opener against the Jets.  No Adams, no Moseley, and with the continuity the Bills are bringing to the table this one could be a rout.

 

I can't help but think that, at least the first few games (if not the whole season), will look more like the "pro bowl games".

 

Players mostly playing "not to get hurt".

 

Regardless of how much better we are than the Jets, the Bills will play just enough to win.

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2 hours ago, cd1 said:

 

I can't help but think that, at least the first few games (if not the whole season), will look more like the "pro bowl games".

 

Players mostly playing "not to get hurt".

 

Regardless of how much better we are than the Jets, the Bills will play just enough to win.

 

If that’s how they play, we’ll lose.  Seriously.

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5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If that’s how they play, we’ll lose.  Seriously.

 

I was not referring to just our team. I meant league wide.

 

At least a few games to knock the rust off.

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Overwhelming the main stream media narrative on opt outs is they should not be criticized, critiqued or in any way critically analyzed. In fact, much of the media falls over itself in praising players who opt out. Here is a reality check - that narrative is flat out wrong. For people in the age group and health profile of NFL players, the risk of death and/or serious illness is virtually zero. Same applies to their children. Most “infected” players won’t even know they had it. I recall in the 90s Bruce Smith had to miss a playoff game (we lost) because of the flu; while EVERY current  Bills player who tested positive were completely unaware that they were even infected. It is fair to compare the actions of the opt out players to that of 50+ year old health workers, first responders etc who do not “opt out”. It should be noted that with all the precautions, devices etc employed by NFL teams, the active  players are generally safer than those who opt out. Unless you make the ridiculous assumption that opt outs are going to quarantine themselves for the next 6 months. They will not, so opting out does not reduce their “risk”, which is minimal to begin with; it may in fact increase it. And for a Bills player - tested every day, advanced medical devices, monitoring and supervision- while living in a community with an extremely low infection rate, a decision to opt out is not above criticism. I don’t personally care if any player chooses to opt out, but that decision making process in light of all the actual science is certainly subject to critique.

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I believe in personal choice - if you want to opt out, no issues.  If it does not impact me, make what ever choice you desire.  If they make a choice, live the the consequences - good or bad.  I would like to see them play but someone will make the decision to play in their spots.

 

Many people in normal paying jobs do not have the ability to opt out.  The walmart cashier needs to work to pay the bills and he/she is at risk.  Many were involuntarily opted out due to restaurants being closed.  Those are the people I worry about, not the NFL players. 

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