eball Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Unless something crazy happens today (and I’m not saying it won’t), with the number of opt outs thus far this will hardly be a “half-assed” season. Right now we’re at around 60 opt outs out of roughly 2000 players, or about 3%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, eball said: Unless something crazy happens today (and I’m not saying it won’t), with the number of opt outs thus far this will hardly be a “half-assed” season. Right now we’re at around 60 opt outs out of roughly 2000 players, or about 3%. How many trade deadline days have turned out to be "mush ado about nothing"? Hopefully today turns out like that - I still hope for a meaningful season. Financially, opting out makes most sense for marginal guys who had questions about even making the roster. If a bunch of those type of guys opt out, then I don't see an impact on leading to a season of compromised value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Players can still leave at any time. They will give up a lot but just because today is the deadline doesn't mean more won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 17 hours ago, nucci said: Yeah, I get that part. Feel the same way but really missed it and glad we get to see something I did watch a lot of the habs/pens game last night. Very high quality. But I have noticed too that there seems to be a overall lack of hitting in all of the games. Maybe they are all still trying to get back in game shape and don't want to get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Bulldog said: How many trade deadline days have turned out to be "mush ado about nothing"? Hopefully today turns out like that - I still hope for a meaningful season. Financially, opting out makes most sense for marginal guys who had questions about even making the roster. If a bunch of those type of guys opt out, then I don't see an impact on leading to a season of compromised value. I mean everyone that was really planning on it has probably already done it since they didn't know when the deadline would be. Could still be a few late deciders like Tre though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cd1 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 WOW - the silence is deafening! Notice: Put on your tinfoil hats, if you got them... I wonder if there is a delay in announcing Opt-outs today - just in case announcements cause a domino effect. /tinfoil hats off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 155 minutes left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 5 hours ago, eball said: Unless something crazy happens today (and I’m not saying it won’t), with the number of opt outs thus far this will hardly be a “half-assed” season. Right now we’re at around 60 opt outs out of roughly 2000 players, or about 3%. And many are marginal guys who probably would not have made a roster anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) Edit: this turned out to be a fake report Edited August 7, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Come on Gilly. Do it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Come on Gilly. Do it! McCourty is a Huge loss. Maybe not as big as Gilmore but close. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) white opts in! according to mortensen https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29606381/bills-all-pro-corner-tredavious-white-opts-season Edited August 6, 2020 by richNjoisy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 55 minutes ago, richNjoisy said: white opts in! according to mortensen https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29606381/bills-all-pro-corner-tredavious-white-opts-season It was great to see in the article that the Bills have been one of the best at watching player safety .. that stuff matters in free agency, not as much as the $$$$, but still matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 This seems to be the final tally. Bills did well compared to the rest of the Division. CBS Sports is tracking all of the decisions in one place. 49ers WR Travis Benjamin OT Shon Coleman Bears DT Eddie Goldman S Jordan Lucas Bengals DL Josh Tupou Bills CB E.J. Gaines DL Star Lotulelei Broncos OT Ja'Wuan James DL Kyle Peko Browns DT Andrew Billings OT Drake Dorbeck OG Drew Forbes OG Colby Gossett OG Malcolm Pridgeon Buccaneers OT Brad Seaton Cardinals OT Marcus Gilbert Chargers None Chiefs OG Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OL Lucas Niang RB Damien Williams Colts S Rolan Milligan LB Skai Moore S Marvell Tell Cowboys CB Maurice Canady WR Stephen Guidry FB Jamize Olawale Dolphins DT Davon Godchaux WR Allen Hurns WR Albert Wilson II Eagles WR Marquise Goodwin Falcons None Giants CB Sam Beal WR Da'Mari Scott OT Nate Solder Jaguars LB Lerentee McCray CB Rashaan Melvin DL Al Woods Jets LB James Burgess WR Josh Doctson OL Leo Koloamatangi LB C.J. Mosley Lions WR Geronimo Allison DL John Atkins C Russell Bodine Packers WR Devin Funchess Panthers LB Jordan Mack LB Christian Miller Patriots RB Brandon Bolden OT Marcus Cannon S Patrick Chung LB Dont'a Hightower TE Matt LaCosse WR Marqise Lee OL Najee Toran FB Danny Vitale Raiders LB Ukeme Eligwe Rams None Ravens OT Andre Smith WR De'Anthony Thomas Saints TE Jason Vander Laan TE Cole Wick Seahawks OG Chance Warmack Steelers None Texans DL Eddie Vanderdoes Titans OT Anthony McKinney Vikings DL Michael Pierce Washington Football Team DL Caleb Brantley LB Josh Harvey-Clemons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Wish McCourtey woulda done it, but either way, our division got worse, which is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Doesn’t anyone find it odd that not a single Center or QB opted out? Considering they touch the ball and each other on every play. That object also will be having many of the skill players, refs, dee players, and ball boys touching it. I know objects can carry the virus if it gets any mucus and breath on it so I was just wondering if they will be trying to sterilize the balls in some way by frequently swapping them in and out and UVing them or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Locomark said: Doesn’t anyone find it odd that not a single Center or QB opted out? Considering they touch the ball and each other on every play. That object also will be having many of the skill players, refs, dee players, and ball boys touching it. I know objects can carry the virus if it gets any mucus and breath on it so I was just wondering if they will be trying to sterilize the balls in some way by frequently swapping them in and out and UVing them or something. I was really worried about Morse with his brother and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) All of the concern about a flukey season due to player opt-outs was definitely overblown. That list reads like typical attrition during camps/preseason. Teams most affected by opt-outs, imo, were both in our division.. Jets have the best player to opt out in CJ Mosley and the Pats lose three starters in Chung, Hightower and Cannon. Edited August 6, 2020 by SCBills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Locomark said: Doesn’t anyone find it odd that not a single Center or QB opted out? Considering they touch the ball and each other on every play. That object also will be having many of the skill players, refs, dee players, and ball boys touching it. I know objects can carry the virus if it gets any mucus and breath on it so I was just wondering if they will be trying to sterilize the balls in some way by frequently swapping them in and out and UVing them or something. Russell Bodine, Center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dean said: Russell Bodine, Center No but like a real NFL one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: All of the concern about a flukey season due to player opt-outs was definitely overblown. That list reads like typical attrition during camps/preseason. True, but normal injuries will still happen too. I think the Patriots are the only team that will really feel their losses, their opt outs have turned them into a bottom 5 roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: True, but normal injuries will still happen too. I think the Patriots are the only team that will really feel their losses, their opt outs have turned them into a bottom 5 roster. A lot of that is that they didn't even try to keep their guys in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) Can we all just agree that this would be the perfect season for the bills to win the Super Bowl? You know that if they did nobody would take their championship seriously because of the opt-outs. It would be so billsy Edited August 7, 2020 by Bills!Win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Bills!Win! said: Can we all just agree that this would be the perfect season for the bills to win the Super Bowl? You know that if they did nobody would take their championship seriously because of the opt-outs. It would be so billsy I think we can all agree upon that. EVERY year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: True, but normal injuries will still happen too. I think the Patriots are the only team that will really feel their losses, their opt outs have turned them into a bottom 5 roster. Bite your tongue. Shhhhhhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: Can we all just agree that this would be the perfect season for the bills to win the Super Bowl? You know that if they did nobody would take their championship seriously because of the opt-outs. It would be so billsy You mean the fewer than 3% opt outs with no superstars in that mix? This season will feel a bit odd because of COVID and no fans in the stands, not the opt outs, and as long as they keep any outbreaks from happening they are still playing pro football and a Super Bowl championship will be perfectly legitimate. Nobody puts an asterisk next to Washington’s SB win over Miami and they only played a 9-game season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, eball said: You mean the fewer than 3% opt outs with no superstars in that mix? This season will feel a bit odd because of COVID and no fans in the stands, not the opt outs, and as long as they keep any outbreaks from happening they are still playing pro football and a Super Bowl championship will be perfectly legitimate. Nobody puts an asterisk next to Washington’s SB win over Miami and they only played a 9-game season. Ha Ha - You just did. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 14 hours ago, whatdrought said: A lot of that is that they didn't even try to keep their guys in free agency. They were cap strapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, whatdrought said: A lot of that is that they didn't even try to keep their guys in free agency. They didn't have much cap to work with this year. They franchise tagged Joe Thuney which ate up most of what they had. They also took a pretty good cap hit ($13.5 M and $4.5 M) with Tommy Boy and Antonio Brown. They received some cap space now that they had some guys opt out. Edited August 7, 2020 by DCbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Too difficult to protect old QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Nice list of all opt outs and impact to their teams. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29607765/players-opting-2020-nfl-season-coronavirus-concerns-tracking-full-list-losses-mean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I’d put the Bills at about -10 right now in their opener against the Jets. No Adams, no Moseley, and with the continuity the Bills are bringing to the table this one could be a rout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, eball said: I’d put the Bills at about -10 right now in their opener against the Jets. No Adams, no Moseley, and with the continuity the Bills are bringing to the table this one could be a rout. I can't help but think that, at least the first few games (if not the whole season), will look more like the "pro bowl games". Players mostly playing "not to get hurt". Regardless of how much better we are than the Jets, the Bills will play just enough to win. Edited August 8, 2020 by cd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, cd1 said: I can't help but think that, at least the first few games (if not the whole season), will look more like the "pro bowl games". Players mostly playing "not to get hurt". Regardless of how much better we are than the Jets, the Bills will play just enough to win. If that’s how they play, we’ll lose. Seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If that’s how they play, we’ll lose. Seriously. I was not referring to just our team. I meant league wide. At least a few games to knock the rust off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIDE LEFT Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Overwhelming the main stream media narrative on opt outs is they should not be criticized, critiqued or in any way critically analyzed. In fact, much of the media falls over itself in praising players who opt out. Here is a reality check - that narrative is flat out wrong. For people in the age group and health profile of NFL players, the risk of death and/or serious illness is virtually zero. Same applies to their children. Most “infected” players won’t even know they had it. I recall in the 90s Bruce Smith had to miss a playoff game (we lost) because of the flu; while EVERY current Bills player who tested positive were completely unaware that they were even infected. It is fair to compare the actions of the opt out players to that of 50+ year old health workers, first responders etc who do not “opt out”. It should be noted that with all the precautions, devices etc employed by NFL teams, the active players are generally safer than those who opt out. Unless you make the ridiculous assumption that opt outs are going to quarantine themselves for the next 6 months. They will not, so opting out does not reduce their “risk”, which is minimal to begin with; it may in fact increase it. And for a Bills player - tested every day, advanced medical devices, monitoring and supervision- while living in a community with an extremely low infection rate, a decision to opt out is not above criticism. I don’t personally care if any player chooses to opt out, but that decision making process in light of all the actual science is certainly subject to critique. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I believe in personal choice - if you want to opt out, no issues. If it does not impact me, make what ever choice you desire. If they make a choice, live the the consequences - good or bad. I would like to see them play but someone will make the decision to play in their spots. Many people in normal paying jobs do not have the ability to opt out. The walmart cashier needs to work to pay the bills and he/she is at risk. Many were involuntarily opted out due to restaurants being closed. Those are the people I worry about, not the NFL players. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIDE LEFT Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Agreed- as I stated, I don’t care if any player opts out. But that decision is not above criticism, as it’s based on false or faulty premises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, cd1 said: I was not referring to just our team. I meant league wide. At least a few games to knock the rust off. Thanks Coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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