BillsFan17 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Being laid off and being furloughed are two different things. This wanna be woke prick is part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Can anyone point out specifically when it was that businesses became responsible for the financial well being of their employees ? Yeah I know tax payer funds. Well say they've blown through the $ they received, are they then required to spend $ that may not be there to support them. To what END ? I'm asking as a person who has been employed with a company for the last 20 yrs w/o a college degree and was lucky enough to raise a family on that income. Only to find out that after this long layoff I will not be returning to my job. Seems like it would be very easy to complain about my situation. Sucks for me I guess, I was raised with the beliefs that I'm responsible for myself. Guess it's time to go back into a work force at 40 w/ no degree. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Virtue Signal Field it is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Beast said: Next he'll be asking for the statue of Ralph removed because he's dead and no longer contributes to society. Well his charitable contributions are contributing to society after his death...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Didn’t they buy the naming rights to the stadium? So whether he likes it or not, New Era is entitled to naming rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Not to mention, those people will probably make more on unemployment from home than they would working right now, with the current conditions. Then they can go back to their jobs when they are needed to generate revenue again. These were HQ jobs, so not likely. Especially with the $600 per week pandemic relief payments going away at the end of July. Regular weekly NYS unemploymment checks would probably be $250 to $350, so a lot less income than they were likely making... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, Lurker said: These were HQ jobs, so not likely. Especially with the $600 per week pandemic relief payments going away at the end of July. Regular weekly NYS unemploymment checks would probably be $250 to $350, so a lot less income than they were likely making... don’t be so sure - my little cousin was working there (until yesterday) and she wasn’t making jack. She’s young, entry level whatever but she was working downtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I’m sorry for their loss with jobs. Too many people unemployed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockeye Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Do realize people, the reason businesses incorporate themselves is to dodge personal responsibility/liability for their actions. Their ability to do so was a back room deal with our elected officials that were supposed to be protecting the citizens interests many many years ago, now the non living entities called businesses have more legal protections than we citizens. That hat company just got over Five million of we tax payers dollars for the sole reason to keep people employed, what’s those lyrics.. ooh ooh, take the money and run... This cracks me up. Probably a worthwhile topic for the political forum. Just FYI - The PPP is not a magical money tree Don. At some point the money received runs out. With the complete lockdown of the country, the bills are now coming due. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dub said: Can anyone point out specifically when it was that businesses became responsible for the financial well being of their employees ? Yeah I know tax payer funds. Well say they've blown through the $ they received, are they then required to spend $ that may not be there to support them. To what END ? I'm asking as a person who has been employed with a company for the last 20 yrs w/o a college degree and was lucky enough to raise a family on that income. Only to find out that after this long layoff I will not be returning to my job. Seems like it would be very easy to complain about my situation. Sucks for me I guess, I was raised with the beliefs that I'm responsible for myself. Guess it's time to go back into a work force at 40 w/ no degree. Lots of places are hiring. Good Luck! Edited July 9, 2020 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Buy more hats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Poloncarz needs to look up the definition of “furlough.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Is he related to IeatCrayonz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 If it’s not about race, I don’t care... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Dave Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 It'll always be Rich Stadium for my generation 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Companies will do whatever it takes to survive imho. In the end, some will not anyhow, and ALL the jobs will be lost permanently. Face it, all the cap business could be managed from China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 New Era should reduce the price of their overpriced hats. $35 bucks give me a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Never understood why New Era bought the naming rights. Who buys a hat based on brand? Frankly, Mike’s Big Mouth Coliseum has a much nicer sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 13 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Not to mention, those people will probably make more on unemployment from home than they would working right now, with the current conditions. Then they can go back to their jobs when they are needed to generate revenue again. Problem for them is timing - the federal unemployment portion expires at the end of the month, and I doubt the republicans have the stomach for handing out more $. Should have laid them off in April. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 10 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Do realize people, the reason businesses incorporate themselves is to dodge personal responsibility/liability for their actions. Their ability to do so was a back room deal with our elected officials that were supposed to be protecting the citizens interests many many years ago, now the non living entities called businesses have more legal protections than we citizens. That hat company just got over Five million of we tax payers dollars for the sole reason to keep people employed, what’s those lyrics.. ooh ooh, take the money and run... I'm sure there are many cases of companies abusing the system, but with New Era for example, they got their PPP loan based on keeping 488 employees. Laying off the 117 employees that Polancarz mentions brings them down to 488 (or within like 1-5 of that), so they actually did exactly what they said they'd do (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Problem for them is timing - the federal unemployment portion expires at the end of the month, and I doubt the republicans have the stomach for handing out more $. Should have laid them off in April. Well for those unemployed, there is a discussion going on in DC about extending the federal stimulus, but at a reduced rate from the $600/wk. My guess and I'm not getting into politics is they probably will do something as the economy is going to tank again if they do nothing. In FL, the max allowed is $275/wk. or $247 after federal withholding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Is there an election upcoming? ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, Irv said: Never understood why New Era bought the naming rights. Who buys a hat based on brand? Frankly, Mike’s Big Mouth Coliseum has a much nicer sound. I buy my Bills, Yankees, and Sabres hats based on brand. New Era hats are more comfortable to me and just fit right. Haven't bought a non New Era hat in about 25 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, Negan said: New Era should reduce the price of their overpriced hats. $35 bucks give me a break $35? I think that's when they are discounted....... For the top end fitted, that's not a bad price. 2 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said: I buy my Bills, Yankees, and Sabres hats based on brand. New Era hats are more comfortable to me and just fit right. Haven't bought a non New Era hat in about 25 years. I buy new era too, but that's because they are one of the only ones I know that sell the fitted ones of sports teams. I can't wear anything but the fitted hats, the others don't feel right on my head. They are usually very good quality and last a long time. Never had an issue with one until they get extremely dirty. I did find that taking a pressure washer to one cleaned it up really good without deforming it like throwing it in the washing machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: $35? I think that's when they are discounted....... For the top end fitted, that's not a bad price. I buy new era too, but that's because they are one of the only ones I know that sell the fitted ones of sports teams. I can't wear anything but the fitted hats, the others don't feel right on my head. They are usually very good quality and last a long time. Never had an issue with one until they get extremely dirty. I did find that taking a pressure washer to one cleaned it up really good without deforming it like throwing it in the washing machine Try washing them in the dishwasher if you have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Is there an election upcoming? ? And they call me a cynic...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They may bring them back even Polancarz did it! He won, he got them to buckle! Yeah for politics...and...for inevitability!!! ...now for the love of all get out will he do something about the fact that I can't get mustard packets for my french fries at local drive through fast food restaurants?! #EverythingIsBetterWithMustard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Ok Mark settle down, still power hungry after all the covid shutdowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 15 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: He has a tweet from June 26th on his account where he is talking about having to take drastic measures due to Covid. I guess it doesn't apply to New Era who probably just wanted to lay off people for no good reason. Covid and drastic measures probably had nothing to do with it lol. Has the self righteous Poloncranz decided to take part of his salary help those hurt by Covid layoffs...i think I know the answer. Typical grandstanding hypocrite politician. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Do realize people, the reason businesses incorporate themselves is to dodge personal responsibility/liability for their actions. Their ability to do so was a back room deal with our elected officials that were supposed to be protecting the citizens interests many many years ago, now the non living entities called businesses have more legal protections than we citizens. That hat company just got over Five million of we tax payers dollars for the sole reason to keep people employed, what’s those lyrics.. ooh ooh, take the money and run... Really? So that is a universal truth is it? BS. I have formed companies in the past and not once did I do it to dodge personal liability. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Polancarz did it! He won, he got them to buckle! Yeah for politics...and...for inevitability!!! ...now for the love of all get out will he do something about the fact that I can't get mustard packets for my french fries at local drive through fast food restaurants?! #EverythingIsBetterWithMustard Donuts, luv ya bud, but mustard on French fries. That’s against my religion. All kidding aside, I get my entire family to bring down Weber’s horseradish mustard, every time they come to visit Florida. We put it and mozzarella cheese before we bread it on chicken cutlets and air fry it. Tastes amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Call it Gigafactory One Bills Drive. Edited July 9, 2020 by akcash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: Donuts, luv ya bud, but mustard on French fries. That’s against my religion. All kidding aside, I get my entire family to bring down Weber’s horseradish mustard, every time they come to visit Florida. We put it and mozzarella cheese before we bread it on chicken cutlets and air fry it. Tastes amazing. Weber's. Horseradish. mustard...is a staple at the D2D's house, MGK! oh man, and on cutlets! I need to party with you down in Florida! ...mind you that's if you've quarantined for 14 days and give correct answers on the appropriate questionnaire, followed by 14 days of me quarantining when I get back to Buffalo, but those are just the small details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, loyal2dagame said: I buy my Bills, Yankees, and Sabres hats based on brand. New Era hats are more comfortable to me and just fit right. Haven't bought a non New Era hat in about 25 years. Maybe ol’ Irv will get one of them there New Era caps and try it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 16 hours ago, El Guapo said: It will always be the Ralph for me. 11 hours ago, RiotAct said: I still think of it as “The Ralph”, too Children, please.. “Rich Stadium, Orchaaad Paak, Neuw Yawk!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Polancarz did it! He won, he got them to buckle! Yeah for politics...and...for inevitability!!! ...now for the love of all get out will he do something about the fact that I can't get mustard packets for my french fries at local drive through fast food restaurants?! #EverythingIsBetterWithMustard Please forgive me for getting sidetracked. But I don’t understand the Dollars to Donuts. Krispy Kreme sells a donut for $1.09 and your only willing to bet a $1.00. Where’s the risk in that? And, before you ask, yes I do need to get a life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Really? So that is a universal truth is it? BS. I have formed companies in the past and not once did I do it to dodge personal liability. None the less it protects you from what I stated does it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Weber's. Horseradish. mustard...is a staple at the D2D's house, MGK! oh man, and on cutlets! I need to party with you down in Florida! ...mind you that's if you've quarantined for 14 days and give correct answers on the appropriate questionnaire, followed by 14 days of me quarantining when I get back to Buffalo, but those are just the small details. I’ll do you one better Donuts, our school principal in elementary school, OMGC, Sister Suzanne, gave us a recipe I’ll share as you are the mustard man. Basically you have you’re butcher cut up chicken breasts into the shape of bacon strips, but just a little wider. You place the Weber’s, and fat free mozzarella on the chicken. Roll it up and place in the air fryer. The chees and mustard oozes through the chicken, and let me tell you it’s almost as good as sex. Almost. I get it for my birthday and a couple of other times a year. Use the air fryer so it’s not obscenely fattening. Just don’t over cook them. I would put them in for five or six minutes, and then flip them. What’s that old song, “Heaven, I’m in Heaven”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Irv said: Please forgive me for getting sidetracked. But I don’t understand the Dollars to Donuts. Krispy Kreme sells a donut for $1.09 and your only willing to bet a $1.00. Where’s the risk in that? And, before you ask, yes I do need to get a life. Irv, I'm glad you brought this up. I believe it is time to discuss one of the worst names in TSW history. It's not a long story. Mind you, it is not even remotely a good story. As a matter of fact, I believe afterwards you may threaten to fight me for wasting yours, and everybody else's, time with it. That said...and procrastinated...dollars to donuts was simply a saying from my (or maybe my father's) youth. I have always believed it to mean you were sure of something, a bet or position, in a discussion. "I'll bet you dollars to donuts, regardless of what some may think, that Adolph Hitler is a really, really, really bad dude." It popped into my head early on when I needed a name here (2003). I thought it was unique. I thought it was easy to understand. I was right on one of those things, but I still regret it and there is no looking back now. I don't live in the past, Irv, I live in the future! The Now is just in a constant state of flux like days old butter. Now if you will excuse me, I am exhausted and need to go pick up my lunch. (...f***, where did I put my keys?! Only living in the future blows) 10 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: I’ll do you one better Donuts, our school principal in elementary school, OMGC, Sister Suzanne, gave us a recipe I’ll share as you are the mustard man. Basically you have you’re butcher cut up chicken breasts into the shape of bacon strips, but just a little wider. You place the Weber’s, and fat free mozzarella on the chicken. Roll it up and place in the air fryer. The chees and mustard oozes through the chicken, and let me tell you it’s almost as good as sex. Almost. I get it for my birthday and a couple of other times a year. Use the air fryer so it’s not obscenely fattening. Just don’t over cook them. I would put them in for five or six minutes, and then flip them. What’s that old song, “Heaven, I’m in Heaven”. Honestly, MGK, in a million years this never would have occurred to me. I promise you if me and Mrs. Donuts (I don't call her that out in public...it draws stares) make this I will let you know how it comes out. Honestly, can't stop thinking about it right now. Thank you, my friend! Edited July 9, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: None the less it protects you from what I stated does it not? LOL, Hardly. I am or was on the board and officer of those companies. I had to buy D&O insurance which was stupid expensive. Not only that as on officer of the Company in a regulated industry the burden you carry is greater than an average employee. I had to take numerous tests to operate and those tests are basically the Feds way of saying you know the rules and regulations, you have to prove that you followed the rules and since you passed the tests, ignorance of the law is no excuse. If I dont have physical proof i followed the law i can be fined big time and even sent to jail, including keeping all relevant correspondences, both electronic and paper for 7 years. It is like take a Texas Concealed Hand Gun license, you got next to no real rights (not already covered by the Castle Law) but the incremental legal burden on you is excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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