Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 His comments in his weekly mailbag reacting to a question. Was kind of a surprise to hear that from him being more of an NFC guy with Fox, they often show the highlights of bad plays, fumbles, etc than the good ones. Josh Allen is one of the top rising stars at that position. The dude has an absolute cannon. He can move. He’s gotten better and better. He is a stud. If you’re a Bills fan, I need you to make a decision right now, and that decision is to change your mind on Allen and start appreciating him. 14 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Glazer is the worst. 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: His comments in his weekly mailbag reacting to a question. Was kind of a surprise to hear that from him being more of an NFC guy with Fox, they often show the highlights of bad plays, fumbles, etc than the good ones. Josh Allen is one of the top rising stars at that position. The dude has an absolute cannon. He can move. He’s gotten better and better. He is a stud. If you’re a Bills fan, I need you to make a decision right now, and that decision is to change your mind on Allen and start appreciating him. As a Bills fan, who hasn't been appreciating Allen. Pretty dumb comment here. We are all aware of his flaws and we all understand that he hasn't hit his ceiling yet and I think we are all being patient with him. JA isn't done growing and we all know that. Glazer must not pay any attention to the Bills fanbase at all. He needs to take notes from Mike Rob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 minute ago, ProcessYaDigg said: As a Bills fan, who hasn't been appreciating Allen. Pretty dumb comment here. We are all aware of his flaws and we all understand that he hasn't hit his ceiling yet and I think we are all being patient with him. JA isn't done growing and we all know that. Glazer must not pay any attention to the Bills fanbase at all. He needs to take notes from Mike Rob. No, that's just your opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, ProcessYaDigg said: As a Bills fan, who hasn't been appreciating Allen. Pretty dumb comment here. We are all aware of his flaws and we all understand that he hasn't hit his ceiling yet and I think we are all being patient with him. JA isn't done growing and we all know that. Glazer must not pay any attention to the Bills fanbase at all. He needs to take notes from Mike Rob. He was replying to a Bills fan who was basically implying the Bills made a huge mistake in not signing Cam or Winston. So that was his response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Glazer is right. There are so many Bills fans that bash Allen with every errant throw. They Are so hung up on pre draft narratives and completely ignore his improvements across the board. The narrative has become totally embarrassing. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: His comments in his weekly mailbag reacting to a question. Was kind of a surprise to hear that from him being more of an NFC guy with Fox, they often show the highlights of bad plays, fumbles, etc than the good ones. Josh Allen is one of the top rising stars at that position. The dude has an absolute cannon. He can move. He’s gotten better and better. He is a stud. If you’re a Bills fan, I need you to make a decision right now, and that decision is to change your mind on Allen and start appreciating him. https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0PMf71Z1/jay-glazer-josh-allen-will-lead-buffalo-bills-to-playoffs-in-2020 not making any complaints but links help. and it's part of the ToC to give credit to the author(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 oh, good. I was honestly in sheer panic for the last 2 years, but now that Jay Glazer likes him I can finally return to my normal life again 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Ed, thanks for the post. At least not every media type isn’t bashing Allen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0PMf71Z1/jay-glazer-josh-allen-will-lead-buffalo-bills-to-playoffs-in-2020 not making any complaints but links help. and it's part of the ToC to give credit to the author(s) Well actually that wasn't where I read the article, I read it on The Athletic site which a link wouldn't do much good if you don't have a subscription. And if you have a subscription, you probably also read it. Guess it also confuses me as thought you're not supposed to use/quote too much of other sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Ed, thanks for the post. At least not every media type isn’t bashing Allen. Wait...you want more media types to bash Allen? WTH man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I thought we didn’t like Glazer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, Bangarang said: I thought we didn’t like Glazer? We have always been at war with East Glazer...until now...because he said something we like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 54 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Glazer is right. There are so many Bills fans that bash Allen with every errant throw. They Are so hung up on pre draft narratives and completely ignore his improvements across the board. The narrative has become totally embarrassing. Huge fan. All I want him is to take those checkdowns instead of playing hero ball. As Josh said, he has never lost a game when his completion % was above 60%...His goal should be to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Well actually that wasn't where I read the article, I read it on The Athletic site which a link wouldn't do much good if you don't have a subscription. And if you have a subscription, you probably also read it. Guess it also confuses me as thought you're not supposed to use/quote too much of other sources. I don't subscribe, but I still post a link. I did a google search and that's what I got. Most of these stories ALL come from the "Pool" and people add in their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I thought we didn’t like Glazer? We like him now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bangarang said: I thought we didn’t like Glazer? This article provides him with a 24 hour pass. Hey, I don’t make the rules. . Edited July 8, 2020 by Augie 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 What? Someone likes Josh Allen? This Jay Glazer must be an exceptional judge of talent! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 i think we filled our quota of the, "he said something good about josh! do we love him now?!?!??" jokes. not just in this thread, but forever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: Glazer is right. There are so many Bills fans that bash Allen with every errant throw. They Are so hung up on pre draft narratives and completely ignore his improvements across the board. The narrative has become totally embarrassing. It’s a narrative to think Allen is inconsistent? Because he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, whorlnut said: Glazer is right. There are so many Bills fans that bash Allen with every errant throw. They Are so hung up on pre draft narratives and completely ignore his improvements across the board. The narrative has become totally embarrassing. I think the narrative from Bills fans, taken as a whole (with detractors, and supporters) has been reasonable. Personally, I would consider myself a staunch supporter-- I love the guy. But, I have to admit that his oft-sited improvements from year onto year two often ignore the larger picture. Yes, his numbers improved dramatically. But, compare the O-lines, and receiving core from those two seasons, and I dare say that even Peterman would have seen marked improvement between those two situations. To my mind, the most relevant improvements Allen made in his second season was his decision making ability, and the speed at which he was able to process information. That will be the factor that brings him up to franchise-level QB, IMO. The cannon arm, athleticism, and even accuracy were already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s a narrative to think Allen is inconsistent? Because he is. I’m not shocked by this response from you. Allen has improved and is our guy. That’s what Glazer was addressing. He said nothing about being consistent or not. Good grief... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) Glazer’s narrative would be held much more widely if Duke Williams comes down with that catch in the end zone, John Brown performs a routine toe-tap on the sideline or any one of about five guys make a block on the one defender during Allen’s QB keeper in the Texans Playoff Game. Edited July 8, 2020 by SCBills 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: I think the narrative from Bills fans, taken as a whole (with detractors, and supporters) has been reasonable. Personally, I would consider myself a staunch supporter-- I love the guy. But, I have to admit that his oft-sited improvements from year onto year two often ignore the larger picture. Yes, his numbers improved dramatically. But, compare the O-lines, and receiving core from those two seasons, and I dare say that even Peterman would have seen marked improvement between those two situations. To my mind, the most relevant improvements Allen made in his second season was his decision making ability, and the speed at which he was able to process information. That will be the factor that brings him up to franchise-level QB, IMO. The cannon arm, athleticism, and even accuracy were already there. Again...Glazer was talking about Allen improving and us being happy with what we have. Nobody is talking about anything else. My point is this...the draft “gurus” went out of their way to bash the kid before the draft and many of you have followed suit and fail to see the improvements across the board. Joe Marino said on a podcast that those who can’t see the improvements just don’t want to see them. It’s that simple. He’s here to stay unless he fails miserably this season, which would be a huge shock considering his dedication to his craft. 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Glazer’s narrative would be held much more widely if Duke Williams comes down with that catch in the end zone, John Brown performs a routine toe-tap on the sideline or any one of about five guys make a block on the one defender during Allen’s QB keeper in the Texans Playoff Game. Well said. Allen did all he could do. Sure he had some boneheaded plays but he put us in a spot to tie the game in regulation and also to win in OT. Edited July 8, 2020 by whorlnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Glazer is the worst. Ahaha hahahahahaha. he is, but even the worst can sometimes say things that are legit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: His comments in his weekly mailbag reacting to a question. Was kind of a surprise to hear that from him being more of an NFC guy with Fox, they often show the highlights of bad plays, fumbles, etc than the good ones. Josh Allen is one of the top rising stars at that position. The dude has an absolute cannon. He can move. He’s gotten better and better. He is a stud. If you’re a Bills fan, I need you to make a decision right now, and that decision is to change your mind on Allen and start appreciating him. I hope he is right, hard to deny the improvement and this season is critical . The Bills have improved the talent around him and now Josh needs to make the next step which is more mental than physical. He needs to accept bad plays and avoid turnovers, punting is not a bad thing and to be fair i believe we saw improvement in this area last season. End of the day we're all in this together, so many suffering years since Kelly retired and i have my fingers crossed with Allen that he has "it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Jay Glazer likes the bills. I walked right past him in a stater brothers a few months ago and he like my shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 This shows my age but I immediately thought of this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 12 hours ago, whorlnut said: Again...Glazer was talking about Allen improving and us being happy with what we have. Nobody is talking about anything else. My point is this...the draft “gurus” went out of their way to bash the kid before the draft and many of you have followed suit and fail to see the improvements across the board. Joe Marino said on a podcast that those who can’t see the improvements just don’t want to see them. It’s that simple. He’s here to stay unless he fails miserably this season, which would be a huge shock considering his dedication to his craft. Well said. Allen did all he could do. Sure he had some boneheaded plays but he put us in a spot to tie the game in regulation and also to win in OT. I have no idea why you are including me with people who "bash" Allen. I'm huge fan. I just bought my 10-year-old a #17 jersey for his birthday. I have never bashed him, and I don't imagine I ever will. But, I wasn't responding to what Glazer said. I was responding to what you wrote. To that point, what I remember from the pre-draft narratives from the "draft gurus", almost universally, was that he was an amazing athlete, with a cannon arm, but that he was raw as a QB, and would need time to ride the pine. That seemed like a fair enough assessment, at the time. Of course, he didn't get that chance, and instead was saddled with Late Nate Peterman as the initial starter, Derek Anderson as an excuse for a "vet presence," an O-line that was bottom three in the league, and IMO the worst receiver corp in the league. There's no point in denying that Allen was playing for a much better offense in year two. And, I still maintain that his accuracy, and athleticism were already there in 2018, and that his biggest improvements came from his situational awareness-- his decision making ability, his pocket presence, and the speed at which he was able to process information. How on Earth is that a "bash" on Allen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 There’s a fine line between bashing and cautious optimism. I don’t think there are as many bashers as what’s being said. I’m always gonna root for Allen to show improvement, and I acknowledge his progress from year one to year two. But he’s gonna have to take a larger step this year given how tough the schedule is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) On 7/8/2020 at 11:49 AM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: He was replying to a Bills fan who was basically implying the Bills made a huge mistake in not signing Cam or Winston. So that was his response. Ah. got it. Maybe i should've understood the situation out before i made a dumb comment. Edited July 9, 2020 by ProcessYaDigg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, ProcessYaDigg said: Ah. got it. Maybe i should've understood the situation out before i made a dumb comment. And I probably could have put the original question in there too, but I thought we're supposed to keep minimal the amount of material we steal I mean quote from other sources 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 2:57 PM, Rocky Landing said: I think the narrative from Bills fans, taken as a whole (with detractors, and supporters) has been reasonable. Personally, I would consider myself a staunch supporter-- I love the guy. But, I have to admit that his oft-sited improvements from year onto year two often ignore the larger picture. Yes, his numbers improved dramatically. But, compare the O-lines, and receiving core from those two seasons, and I dare say that even Peterman would have seen marked improvement between those two situations. I'd say you are lacking in football knowledge but that would imply Bills were lacking in football knowledge when they cut "veteran" and made P5t5rman starting QB. Let us just say that he is fool's gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 1:08 PM, jeremy2020 said: We have always been at war with East Glazer...until now...because he said something we like. This comment didn't get enough appreciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 11:57 AM, Rocky Landing said: I think the narrative from Bills fans, taken as a whole (with detractors, and supporters) has been reasonable. Personally, I would consider myself a staunch supporter-- I love the guy. But, I have to admit that his oft-sited improvements from year onto year two often ignore the larger picture. Yes, his numbers improved dramatically. But, compare the O-lines, and receiving core from those two seasons, and I dare say that even Peterman would have seen marked improvement between those two situations. To my mind, the most relevant improvements Allen made in his second season was his decision making ability, and the speed at which he was able to process information. That will be the factor that brings him up to franchise-level QB, IMO. The cannon arm, athleticism, and even accuracy were already there. People forget he only played 2 years of college football. His first 2 years in the NFL was like his Jr. & Senior years in college. Still learning and developing. He was always going to take 3 full years to acclimate. I see Josh with adding Diggs/Moss throwing 28 tds and rushing for 6 tds. Maybe 8-9 ints. This will be his rookie season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Limeaid said: I'd say you are lacking in football knowledge but that would imply Bills were lacking in football knowledge when they cut "veteran" and made P5t5rman starting QB. Let us just say that he is fool's gold. Believe me, I am no fan of Peterman, and I only use his name rhetorically. I was at that Chargers game when he played historically bad football, and the five picks he threw in the first half only tell half the story. How he managed to extend his football career beyond that season is a true head shaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: People forget he only played 2 years of college football. His first 2 years in the NFL was like his Jr. & Senior years in college. Still learning and developing. He was always going to take 3 full years to acclimate. I see Josh with adding Diggs/Moss throwing 28 tds and rushing for 6 tds. Maybe 8-9 ints. This will be his rookie season. Another solid post as usual, man. Here’s the thing...Allen came from an ultra small, rural high school that lacked any star power and decent coaching. He then went to a junior college where once again he didn’t have any elite talent around him. His first year at Wyoming had some decent talent and he did well, but again, it was no USC, Bama, Clemson, etc. It can be argued that he never really had a chance to be around comparable talent or elite coaching until he reached the sport’s pinnacle in the NFL. Most qbs come from blue blood high school and college programs and have elite coaching during those years. Allen had neither. And to add to this, his first year in the NFL he had one of the worst lines and skill groups in the league, all while being “taught” by a wide receivers coach. What a joke. Allen is just scratching the surface of what he is capable of. The fact that some people can’t see that or want to accept it is mind boggling. Edited July 10, 2020 by whorlnut 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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