Halloween Land Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Maybe the 2 best trades in franchise history, here they are: Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes or Kiko Alonso for LeSean McCoy Personally I think the McCoy trade was a little better because we was at the time the best running back in the league and he had some very productive years including helping break the playoff drought and he was pretty much the whole offense. But the Hughes trade has been great too, He also gets credit for breaking the playoff drought and he has been very productive and is still on the team. What are your guys thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I'm going Hughes simply because Sheppard was a nobody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I think it's McCoy for Alonso. Alonso sucked as a Bill and he has sucked in Miami. Plus he's a dirty piece of *****. I'll also add getting a 3rd round pick for Tyrod Taylor. That was absolutely beautiful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Hughes-Sheppard was a great trade, Alonso trade was ok. One bonus we got in the Alonso trade was watching Josh Allen totally abusing Alonso on one of his runs last year, juking him and then pushing him out of the way, classic. Edited June 18, 2020 by RoyBatty is alive 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think it's McCoy for Alonso. Alonso sucked as a Bill and he has sucked in Miami. Plus he's a dirty piece of *****. I'll also add getting a 3rd round pick for Tyrod Taylor. That was absolutely beautiful. Alonso was a folk hero quickly. Plus McCoy had the huge contract. Edited June 18, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: I'm going Hughes simply because Sheppard was a nobody. Sheppard i would say. We traded a LB for one of the worst defenses in the league for an underperforming DE who ended up being a piece here for a long time. The shady alonso trade was good too - I give the hughes trade the win because of A- the $$$ extension we had to give to shady, and B- Alonso was a damn LEGEND here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think it's McCoy for Alonso. Alonso sucked as a Bill and he has sucked in Miami. Plus he's a dirty piece of *****. I'll also add getting a 3rd round pick for Tyrod Taylor. That was absolutely beautiful. I'm glad we got rid of Alonso as well, cuz he became a nobody with every other team he's been on. But you can't be serious that he sucked as a Bill. He was extremely productive and was a rapid rising star his rookie campaign. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think it's McCoy for Alonso. Alonso sucked as a Bill and he has sucked in Miami. Plus he's a dirty piece of *****. I'll also add getting a 3rd round pick for Tyrod Taylor. That was absolutely beautiful. Pick 65! and Cleveland paid the bonus! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, ProcessYaDigg said: I'm glad we got rid of Alonso as well, cuz he became a nobody with every other team he's been on. But you can't be serious that he sucked as a Bill. He was extremely productive and was a rapid rising star his rookie campaign. I thought he fell off his 2nd year but no he had that injury. He never got a 2nd year in Buffalo. Yeah, Alonso was a big star here at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Hughes for Sheppard was one of the all-time fleece jobs...Whaley's crown jewel. Getting a 3rd for Tyrod was brilliant. McCoy for Alonso was important, but not an "all-timer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Alonso was a folk hero quickly. Plus McCoy had the huge contract. Alonso had two good games and many Bills fans wanted him fitted for the gold jacket. I never understood it. McCoy was well worth his contract. At the time, he was easily a top 5 back in the league; maybe even top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I voted McCoy as he was so impactful while here, other teams just had to adjust to keep us from gashing them. Hughes has been a great trade and a steal and especially when he had Mario pre Wrex, was a nightmare for O lines, but he’s had injuries like others. He also made some of the most bonehead personal fouls that killed stops to opposing teams. I still love JERRY, but if a forced ranking McCoy is my vote. They were both awesome though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I went with the Hughes trade for the purposes of this poll but the best Bills trade that I remember was the 3-way trade between the Bills-Colts-Rams where the Bills got Bennett. That was a real game changer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Hughes trade by far, thank you Buddy Nix! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Greg S said: I went with the Hughes trade for the purposes of this poll but the best Bills trade that I remember was the 3-way trade between the Bills-Colts-Rams where the Bills got Bennett. That was a real game changer. Great trade but pretty fair. 2 1st round picks. Edited June 18, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Greg S said: I went with the Hughes trade for the purposes of this poll but the best Bills trade that I remember was the 3-way trade between the Bills-Colts-Rams where the Bills got Bennett. That was a real game changer. Definitely up there in team history. But, hopefully within the next couple of years, we'll be saying that trading for Diggs was the greatest in team history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Dennis Shaw for Ahmad Rashad was pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Sheppard for Hughes. We fleeced Indy. Getting a 3rd for Tyrod has to be up there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think it's McCoy for Alonso. Alonso sucked as a Bill and he has sucked in Miami. Plus he's a dirty piece of *****. I'll also add getting a 3rd round pick for Tyrod Taylor. That was absolutely beautiful. Ehh a 3rd for a starting NFL QB even Tyrod is pretty reasonable. How did we get a 5th for Zay Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 31 year old O.J. for five draft picks 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I think Shepherd and Hughes is better because we traded someone who was out of the league quickly for a long time above average player for us. That being said, the argument for the Alonso McCoy trade makes sense just because it was less about the luck of the draw. We obviously got someone who we saw something in with Hughes, but so much of that is the little unpredictable things that cause someone to turn their career around. It just as easily could have gone the other way with Shepherd becoming the stud and Hughes being nobody. With McCoy, there was no doubt we were getting an amazing player for a moderately good player. So that was a coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Paul Seymour for Frank Lewis was another good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Ehh a 3rd for a starting NFL QB even Tyrod is pretty reasonable. How did we get a 5th for Zay Jones? A third for Tyrod Taylor? That's like trading a 2012 Hyundai Accent for 2021 Ford Mustang and calling it even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 This thread is why OPs become former OPs. ? 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: A third for Tyrod Taylor? That's like trading a 2012 Hyundai Accent for 2021 Ford Mustang and calling it even. Better mileage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: This thread is why OPs become former OPs. ? Better mileage? Better everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I picked Alonso and McCoy trade but Hughes shepard is probably equal. Both were excellent deals A 3rd for Tyrod was amazing. The day before that trade I told someone if we got a 5th I'd be thrilled. The 1st pick in the 3rd round for a guy we would have cut? And they paid his bonus for 3 starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Hughes trade. We had to swallow an expensive McCoy contract that he could not play up to the last years. Hughes has always been good but elite under a cost benefit analysis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Hughes trade. We had to swallow an expensive McCoy contract that he could not play up to the last years. Hughes has always been good but elite under a cost benefit analysis. Nice analogy. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, Rico said: Hughes trade by far, thank you Buddy Nix! No one ever likes to give Nix credit ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I think the trade for Bennett has to be up there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I miss Kelvin Sheppard, he tried really hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think Shepherd and Hughes is better because we traded someone who was out of the league quickly for a long time above average player for us. That being said, the argument for the Alonso McCoy trade makes sense just because it was less about the luck of the draw. We obviously got someone who we saw something in with Hughes, but so much of that is the little unpredictable things that cause someone to turn their career around. It just as easily could have gone the other way with Shepherd becoming the stud and Hughes being nobody. With McCoy, there was no doubt we were getting an amazing player for a moderately good player. So that was a coup. Sheppard was out of the league in a blink and Hughes is still contributing for us 7 years later. Alonso is still in the league and Shady fell off after 2 years and was cut after 3. No brainer to pick the Hughes trade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 This is a tough one. I remember back in the BBMB days, a large portion of that crowd wanted Hughes in 2nd round. Shady was the only consistent piece that made this team watchable for the majority of his time here. Taking longevity into consideration, I favor the Hughes trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 59 minutes ago, FireChans said: No one ever likes to give Nix credit ? OK, once. Just don't let it happen again. * If you just play one of Cornpone's hayseed quotes, he quickly falls back out of favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Hughes trade and it's not close. Hughes is still an elite (or near elite) player at a very high value position. McCoy was overpaid and overrated at the lowest value position on the field. He really only had two good seasons here. Hughes on the other hand is still playing at a high level seven years after trade. Edited June 18, 2020 by mannc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Gugny said: Alonso had two good games and many Bills fans wanted him fitted for the gold jacket. I never understood it. McCoy was well worth his contract. At the time, he was easily a top 5 back in the league; maybe even top 3. He was a DROY candidate. He set a pretty big expectation that first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 We need a thread on this? Hughes-Sheppard might have been the best NFL trade of the decade. The Bills got 46.5 sacks over 7 seasons of good to very good play out of Hughes. The Colts got 7 starts out of Kelvin Sheppard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Of those 2 I picked the Hughes trade. I don't think anyone mentioned Cousineau for a 1st that turned into Jim Kelly. The other trades way back that were brought up were really good too. If they would have kept him longer, the Rashad for Dennis Shaw trade would be way up there. The Frank Lewis for a broken down Paul Seymour is a very underrated deal. Even though the 5 picks didn't pan out that great, getting that kind of haul for OJ was really good. Loved the Bennett trade and it was the right move but not a lopsided deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I'm going Hughes simply because Sheppard was a nobody. Not to mention he has been consistent for a much longer time for the team Shady was a great addition & i will never take anything away form what he did while he was here but Hughes longevity and consistency has been much better ! I would think this should pretty much be a no brainer . Edited June 18, 2020 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Not completely on topic but I still think our craziest trade was getting Bennett after his draft. We already took Shane Conlan and traded to get someone’s number two pick that year. That is is something I don’t believe you will ever see done again with the rookie wage scale. But to come away from a draft with the two linebackers taken first, one of them being the second overall? Insanity. Edited June 18, 2020 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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