Bangarang Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 That breeze you felt was Ed Oliver’s sigh of relief now that someone else on the team has done something stupid. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Matt Barkley after he opened Twitter and saw this trending... https://giphy.com/gifs/jean-claude-van-damme-dancing-FBzqZGthkW6KQ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBills1998 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, aristocrat said: he needs to apologize. that's it move on. michael thomas accepted drew brees' apology. But drew brees didn’t say anything to the affect of what Fromm allegedly has 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: But drew brees didn’t say anything to the affect of what Fromm allegedly has If the follow up tweet that just got posted is correct, Fromm is gone. Things are too tense for the Bills not to cut him. They would be fools to hold on to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: yea...he's gone lol I don't see the front office or this coaching staff doing that in this case...if this wasn't satire, which I've expressed my thohghts on already, this is a teachable moment (I guess I'm assuming this was a joke at worst if not satire, and not his true underlying belief system, but even then he's what, 22...not excusing racism in 22 y/o, just they really arent their own person yet). Even then, this is a really good opportunity for the team to come together and help someone grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: If the follow up tweet that just got posted is correct, Fromm is gone. Things are too tense for the Bills not to cut him. They would be fools to hold on to him. Well say hello to cam Newton unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: If true, move on from him. I'm sure that'll be an unpopular sentiment, but so be it. If that happens, I’ll be interested to see if all those who defend the rights of corporations to dictate employee behaviors as we’ve seen in the Kaepernick threads are the ones arguing that the Bills were wrong to cut Fromm for simply expressing his view. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Now they are all coming out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: I don't see the front office or this coaching staff doing that in this case...if this wasn't satire, which I've expressed my thohghts on already, this is a teachable moment (I guess I'm assuming this was a joke at worst if not satire, and not his true underlying belief system, but even then he's what, 22...not excusing racism in 22 y/o, just they really arent their own person yet). Even then, this is a really good opportunity for the team to come together and help someone grow. Usually, yes. In this moment? No way. I don't think there is alot of interest at the moment in helping racists grow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: My guess is he "liked it" as a, "Hey, I see this" moment and a warning before coming to camp. He also liked the below. Fromm sounds like he is as good as gone if all are true. https://twitter.com/ashleymp20/status/1268586650403307522/photo/1 Edited June 4, 2020 by Mango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuelTime Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Cut him and bring in Newton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, K-9 said: If that happens, I’ll be interested to see if all those who defend the rights of corporations to dictate employee behaviors as we’ve seen in the Kaepernick threads are the ones arguing that the Bills were wrong to cut Fromm for simply expressing his view. I was 100% behind the idea that Kaep is free to express himself, and the owners are free to punish him as they see fit (within the law of course). I’m likewise 100% behind Fromm being allowed to say what he believes...and the team is free to punish him as they see fit (within the law of course). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 He clearly messed with the wrong woman. He's gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I'll admit I've had personal text conversations where I've made very off-color jokes to my friends. It's not right that this was leaked and I don't take it as a statement on who Fromm is as a person. I'm sure everyone here has said something in private that would destroy their career if it was made public. 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: so in the follow up section he says he isn't an elite white person, I don't know but I want to see what they were saying before this specific cut away because this feels awfully targeted. Edited June 4, 2020 by Warcodered 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Now they are all coming out Sounds like she has an agenda against anything conservative, just from looking at her other tweets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Well say hello to cam Newton unfortunately You think they have to sign Cam Newton if we cut our 3rd string, 5th round draft pick QB? Seems like a huge leap... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, HappyDays said: I'll admit I've had personal text conversations where I've made very off-color jokes to my friends. It's not right that this was leaked and I don't take it as a statement on who Fromm is as a person. I'm sure everyone here has said something in private that would destroy their career if it was made public. Still... It leaked. And he said some horribly ignorant stuff... at a really bad time. He's gotta do some serious damage control to try and save his career. He was fringe material before this, now ur own teammates see who you can be behind closed doors. Like... An apology is huge, a personal change is huger. Especially after the stuff McDermott said in his presser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I love how this girl is using the current social climate to post a convo from over a year ago just to get some clout on social media. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Robotulism Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Still... It leaked. And he said some horribly ignorant stuff... at a really bad time. He's gotta do some serious damage control to try and save his career. He was fringe material before this, now ur own teammates see who you can be behind closed doors. Like... An apology is huge, a personal change is huger. Especially after the stuff McDermott said in his presser. Was it said at a bad time, or leaked at a bad time? Edited June 4, 2020 by Mr_Robotulism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr_Robotulism Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: Is this part of the process? It is for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, dneveu said: And he said some horribly ignorant stuff... at a really bad time. He said it last year, it wasn't a comment on the current political climate. Honestly if we are going to punish young 20 year olds for everything they say in private then the whole world might as well be punished. The girl who leaked this should be ashamed. 7 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I love how this girl is using the current social climate to post a convo from over a year ago just to get some clout on social media. In the follow up text she tells the other girl that this is a teaching moment. She just ruined this guy's career. Hell of a lesson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I expect ESPN to somehow tie this to Josh's old nonsense and a "culture" at the Bills in 3....2...1.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: You think they have to sign Cam Newton if we cut our 3rd string, 5th round draft pick QB? Seems like a huge leap... It does, but knowing the media they could make it out that the Bills are the bad guys. Might be a PC move to make everyone happy. It’s unfortunate but that’s the world we live in now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Well this is really starting to blow up on Twitter. Too bad. People are comparing what Fromm said in a private conversation a year ago to what Brees said publicly. I guess the witch hunt is officially on. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: In the follow up text she tells the other girl that this is a teaching moment. She just ruined this guy's career. Hell of a lesson. Yeah, gotta think something went down. But good luck trying to win the room now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: In the follow up text she tells the other girl that this is a teaching moment. She just ruined this guy's career. Hell of a lesson. No Jake is ruining his own career. It’s an important distinction. Hold him accountable for his words, not the one who made them public. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Now I am sure teams already knew this. They would have easily uncovered it and could be the very reason he was falling like a rock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Saw a reply on twitter that said "his apology will be weaker than his arm." 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, Mango said: No Jake is ruining his own career. It’s an important distinction. Hold him accountable for his words, not the one who made them public. He was 20 bro. You people are pricks. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I'll admit I've had personal text conversations where I've made very off-color jokes to my friends. It's not right that this was leaked and I don't take it as a statement on who Fromm is as a person. I'm sure everyone here has said something in private that would destroy their career if it was made public. Something based on gender or race? Maybe as a dumb teenager or in their early 20s with very minimal life experience, but as an adult? Might want to reevaluate that "everyone" and change it to some people or a few people. Now, I mean have I done things outside of work that potentially could have gotten me in trouble at work if it went viral...sure, I'm 100% with you there, but non satirical off color jokes about race or gender...nah, probably not the norm honestly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, aristocrat said: he needs to apologize. that's it move on. michael thomas accepted drew brees' apology. BUT...Drew Brees didn't say anything "wrong", he shared his PERSONAL experience and deep meaning with the anthem and why its important to him to stand. His mistake, was projecting that meaning on to others as if they should feel the same, and his biggest mistake was the poor timing and lack of social awareness. What Fromm said was SUBSTANTIALLY worse and literally quite racist...even if he claims he was joking, which we all know is inevitably coming. Everyone knows Brees isnt racist, but now Fromm appears to believe he is a white elite with special privileges. Plus...Fromm...questionable NFL player at this stage...Brees one of the GOATS with a LONG history of giving and supporting his community which has a rich and deep African American population, culture, and history. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJS Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 It's obviously a joke. A dumb joke and insensitive, but people say dumb things in private text conversations all the time. If he gets fired for this it shows what a backward world we live in. Getting fired for a private joke made in a private conversation? I guess Drew Brees should get fired for saying people shouldn't kneel during the anthem. Josh Allen should get fired for the tweets he sent as a teenager. And I am totally on board with the cause against police brutality and believe that African Americans have it much worse. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Now I am sure teams already knew this. They would have easily uncovered it and could be the very reason he was falling like a rock I don't know this isn't from his twitter or social media it's a private text conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 My money says that Drew Brees called in a favor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: He said it last year, it wasn't a comment on the current political climate. Honestly if we are going to punish young 20 year olds for everything they say in private then the whole world might as well be punished. The girl who leaked this should be ashamed. he deserves some blowback and serious conversations. How he handles those would be a major test of whether he stays. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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