Coach Tuesday Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Fine with the player, not thrilled with the pick or strategy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Many would argue Dobbins was.... and he’s an offensive playmaker for a team void of them. Diggs and brown aren’t playmakers??? Lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: So said every other draft pick ever not taken first overall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The D was top 2/3 last year and they didn't come close to the SB. If their 2nd round pick keeps their D at that same high level, how does the get them to the SB? Hold on stay with me..... Maybe we clearly like the trajectory of our QB and the offense---plus Diggs, a year of experience with Knox and Singletary, and continuity from the OC to the oline we haven't had in years. There were 10 new starters last year. The defense became an underrated problem the last 4 weeks. We stunk at New England. And collapsed vs Houston. Maybe as it is right now, it's a prolific offense waiting to happen. If it isn't we're QB hunting next year and you're not going to care that we passed on the 12th WR in the draft. If we aren't looking for a QB, we made the playoffs. So... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Seems to me we needed to address edge this year. It also seems to me we need to address it again next year. This is not going to be your edge rusher. A solid DE but not a rusher. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: Solid but not spectacular... Cant say I’m surprised that they picked a DE... was their biggest need.. 20. EDGE A.J. EPENESA, IOWA There hasn't been a true power end prospect like Epenesa in quite some time. He won't have the burst or agility of other top prospects, but he's got an elite physical skill set for the position in his own right. Do tell me why it was not spectacular. Boo!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Diggs and brown aren’t playmakers??? Lmao I am seriously trying to figure out how Devin S. is not considered a "playmaker" as well 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Fine with the player, not thrilled with the pick or strategy. What does this even mean? Main need was edge, we got the best one. What strategy are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Guy can't help himself. Roasted...LOL. nope This fell on dead ears sadly. The point is....you know next to nothing about drafting NFL players. You question another poster as to why you should listen to them over Beane...and it begs the question why should we listen to YOU over Beane? The answer is we shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, John from Riverside said: If you cant see that Smoke had an excellent season last year in Buffalo.....you are lost If you cant see that Devin is a productive back.....you are lost If you mean Singletary was productive when he was put on the field, OK. But at his carries per game (26th in the league) resulting in 17th in ypg and 24th in total yards----it's not unreasonable to conclude he wasn't very productive. You would argue otherwise, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Safe pick for a milquetoast regime. In which decade are we going to try to score points? Haven’t you heard? Defense wins championships. Those 4 DTs and 4 DEs acquired in UFA or the draft since 2018 will win the 13-10 games McD hopes for each week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 20. EDGE A.J. EPENESA, IOWA There hasn't been a true power end prospect like Epenesa in quite some time. He won't have the burst or agility of other top prospects, but he's got an elite physical skill set for the position in his own right. A+ and suck it. Didn't think he'd be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Hold on stay with me..... Maybe we clearly like the trajectory of our QB and the offense---plus Diggs, a year of experience with Knox and Singletary, and continuity from the OC to the oline we haven't had in years. There were 10 new starters last year. The defense became an underrated problem the last 4 weeks. We stunk at New England. And collapsed vs Houston. Maybe as it is right now, it's a prolific offense waiting to happen. If it isn't we're QB hunting next year and you're not going to care that we passed on the 12th WR in the draft. If we aren't looking for a QB, we made the playoffs. So... OK. Many here are arguing as though it has already happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Not sure what 1998 was, but everybody who watched the Bills knows their struggle to score is what limited their advancement. This isn't even a bit difficult to understand. I meant 1996 when our GM lied every day for a month about what we wanted and then took Moulds. But we did improve our offense by adding a top 10 WR and more line depth. I agree with you our offense was not SB worthy last year but once again no one at 54 would have been the difference maker this year. 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: OK. Many here are arguing as though it has already happened. Are you stating my stating we have some of the pieces is arguing " it already happened"? That is just dishonest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: This fell on dead ears sadly. The point is....you know next to nothing about drafting NFL players. You question another poster as to why you should listen to them over Beane...and it begs the question why should we listen to YOU over Beane? The answer is we shouldn't. So you think think when Beane said the Bills need to score more points...you think he was wrong? Right? Lying? I can't tell from your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Paulus said: 20. EDGE A.J. EPENESA, IOWA There hasn't been a true power end prospect like Epenesa in quite some time. He won't have the burst or agility of other top prospects, but he's got an elite physical skill set for the position in his own right. A+ and suck it. Didn't think he'd be here. In a few years when they do that "draft revisit" thing, AJ will be a 1st round pick in the do-over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 54. Bills: EDGE AJ Epenesa, Iowa Grade: A. Intimidating size and length. Stellar hand-work. Stud run stopper. Power player. Legit DE/DT versatility. Average athlete for DE spot. High-end athlete for DT spot. Bills needed more youth at DE. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020-nfl-draft-grades-and-analysis-for-every-second-round-pick/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Paulus said: 20. EDGE A.J. EPENESA, IOWA There hasn't been a true power end prospect like Epenesa in quite some time. He won't have the burst or agility of other top prospects, but he's got an elite physical skill set for the position in his own right. Do tell me why it was not spectacular. Boo!!! What does this prove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I meant 1996 when our GM lied every day for a month about what we wanted and then took Moulds. But we did improve our offense by adding a top 10 WR and more line depth. I agree with you our offense was not SB worthy last year but once again no one at 54 would have been the difference maker this year. Are you stating my stating we have some of the pieces is arguing " it already happened"? That is just dishonest. Dobbins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Haven’t you heard? Defense wins championships. Those 4 DTs and 4 DEs acquired in UFA or the draft since 2018 will win the 13-10 games McD hopes for each week. Chiefs would disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 41 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Aaron Schobel was a beast. He used to get crucified because he didn't "hold up well at the point of attack." I like DE's who fly after QB's, but that's just me. At the very least, New England hated him. Schobel did well against Matt Light and harassed Brady often enough. DE's need to be aggressive against the tackle, but have to stay in their lane. Can't be like Murphy who allows his high motor to get him pushed 20 yards out of the play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 From the Buffalo News article. Well we got Diggs and still got Epenesa. Beane rules! The Bills probably would have been forced to take the best available edge rusher at 22, either Penn State’s Yetur Gross-Matos or Iowa’s A.J. Epenesa. Would you rather have Diggs? It’s not a hard question. Yes.’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: So you think think when Beane said the Bills need to score more points...you think he was wrong? Right? Lying? I can't tell from your post. I think he definitely believes that. But maybe, just maybe, he didnt see value in going with a pick on Offense just for the sake of picking Offense with what was available against their draft board. In your opinion who should the Bills have picked at 54? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Chiefs would disagree I was being sarcastic. The HC believes his defense can beat great offenses. He’s 3-17 career against playoff teams. More defense leading to wins is a fallacy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: I think he definitely believes that. But maybe, just maybe, he didnt see value in going with a pick on Offense just for the sake of picking Offense with what was available against their draft board. In your opinion who should the Bills have picked at 54? lol I've said it repeatedly. Scroll up FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I didn't even think about the 55 man roster! Beane playing 4 D chess out here! Right! But for real, they love to rotate their defensive linemen, this only helps. And it’s a key position where they needed to add youth. I’m quite happy with the pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsVet said: I was being sarcastic. The HC believes his defense can beat great offenses. He’s 3-17 career against playoff teams. More defense leading to wins is a fallacy. You can't argue with true believers. It's wasted breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I apologize if this was already posted. Interesting observation from Bleacher Report... "...several opponents (and teammates) called Epenesa the toughest defender they ever faced, or the second-toughest besides Chase Young." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888450-nfl-draft-2020-day-2-grades-for-every-pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Dkollidas said: Right! But for real, they love to rotate their defensive linemen, this only helps. And it’s a key position where they needed to add youth. I’m quite happy with the pick Same. I'm almost positive McBeane didn't expect him to be there at 54. Were probably shocked , doing backflips! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, JerseyBills said: Same. I'm almost positive McBeane didn't expect him to be there at 54. Were probably shocked , doing backflips! Lol He was frequently mocked to the Bills at 22... it’s like they got Diggs for a 2nd 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: You can't argue with true believers. It's wasted breath DE/Edge and RB are the biggest needs right now. It probably just so happened that Epenesa was also BPA at pick 54. I'll bet they go RB in round 3, assuming who is there grades out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I hope he punches everyone with the ball like TJ Watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 56 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: gone Zack Moss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Johnnycage46 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: lol I've said it repeatedly. Scroll up You say a LOT of things repeatedly. And all negative, contrarian, and uninformed. But like I said, who should the Bills have drafted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 BTW my daughter graduates from Iowa next month and she's super excited about this pick! Now I don't have to choose between Hawkeye gear and Bills gear when she visits 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I hope he punches everyone with the ball like TJ Watt. Or Matos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, Logic said: Not athletic, my ass. Somehow we are being messed with. Here is the screenshot I made to post. Maybe the scores of a DE vs. a DT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Johnnycage46 said: You say a LOT of things repeatedly. And all negative, contrarian, and uninformed. But like I said, who should the Bills have drafted? Dobbins. Your laziness in intellect matches your laziness in keeping up with conversations you insist on inserting yourself into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I was just thinking that after watching Emmanuel Acho's clip on Epenesa. Tua could be hurt a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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