For those that want a RB in the first few rounds

[Meatloaf63]

On 3/29/2020 at 10:00 PM, Lurker said:

All I know is I want an RB2 who doesn't miss a beat and executes the same offense as RB1 with virtually no drop off.    Not like Gore, who literrally wasted downs during the second half of the season...

I went back and watched the first two games and although Gore had some good runs, he’s wasn’t very explosive and whatever he provided can easily be replaced. He became progressively worse as the season went on...

[maryland-bills-fan]

12 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:

I went back and watched the first two games and although Gore had some good runs, he’s wasn’t very explosive and whatever he provided can easily be replaced. He became progressively worse as the season went on...

I'm a Seton Hall alumni and a basketball fan.   The Pirates did very well this year and didn't get a chance to show how far they could go in the tournament. The starting center was Gill a 7'2" shot blocker who really came on strong this year.  Coach Willard told the story of watching the other teams center when Gill came out for a rest or for fouls.  "Ike" came in and he also a good player and is 7'2" and about 30 pounds heavier.  Willard said he liked seeing the other team's center expression.  "Oh *****, I thought things would be easier and now I'm playing against King Kong's older bigger brother."  ....  That is what I want to see when our RB2 for the day comes on the field.  NOT,   "well we can tee off on them now."   Capisci ?

 

Edited April 2, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan

[BuffaloRebound]

RB’s selected in first 2 rounds in last 5 years: 

 

2015 - Gurley 10, Gordon 15, Yeldon 36, Abdullah 54;

2016 - Zeke 4, D Henry 45;

2017 - Fournette 4, McCaffrey 8, Cook 41, Mixon 48;

2018 - Barkley 2, Penny 27, Michel 31, Chubb 35, Jones 38, Kerryon Johnson 43, Guice 59;

2019 - Jacobs 24, Sanders 53
 

Not sure what that list is tellling me other than even if you hit on a RB in the first 2 rounds, I’m not sure you even want them for the 2nd contract. 

[CEN-CAL17]

I personally think they will go with a RB similar to Singletary, but faster. A guy who can spell Singletary but play 3 downs if needed. I’m looking at the sub 4.5 guys.....

 

Dobbins/CEH (4.5 flat), Akers, Kelley, McFarland (this kid is growing on me)... 

 

I really don’t see them taking a round 2 RB. Dobbins and CEH will be tempting. Akers I feel goes last few picks of round 2 or early round 3. I’d expect Moss to go round 3 as well. 
 

I see Buffalo trading back into the Late 3rd or early forth for Kelley or McFarland. 
 

I watched Kelley personally at the Senior Bowl practices. He was by far the best RB there and it showed in the game. Great vision tough runner.

 

But McFarland is almost an exact mold of Singletary 5’8 210 lbs (5’8” 208 @ Combine) 4.4 40 yard dash. His acceleration is probably the best of all RBs. He gets full speed quickly, good vision and tough to bring down. 
 

Anthony McFarland RB Maryland is my choice. Roughly around pick 100.

 

 

 

Edited April 2, 2020 by CEN-CAL17

[Formerly Allan in MD]

I do believe we'll trade up in round 2 for one of the good ones.

[Prickly Pete]

52 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

I personally think they will go with a RB similar to Singletary, but faster. A guy who can spell Singletary but play 3 downs if needed. I’m looking at the sub 4.5 guys.....

 

Dobbins/CEH (4.5 flat), Akers, Kelley, McFarland (this kid is growing on me)... 

 

I really don’t see them taking a round 2 RB. Dobbins and CEH will be tempting. Akers I feel goes last few picks of round 2 or early round 3. I’d expect Moss to go round 3 as well. 
 

I see Buffalo trading back into the Late 3rd or early forth for Kelley or McFarland. 
 

I watched Kelley personally at the Senior Bowl practices. He was by far the best RB there and it showed in the game. Great vision tough runner.

 

But McFarland is almost an exact mold of Singletary 5’8 210 lbs (5’8” 208 @ Combine) 4.4 40 yard dash. His acceleration is probably the best of all RBs. He gets full speed quickly, good vision and tough to bring down. 
 

Anthony McFarland RB Maryland is my choice. Roughly around pick 100.

 

 

 

 

I love Singletary, but I don't know that I'm looking for a second 5'8 running back. I think one is enough.

 

I have no idea why people like Akers so much, I don't see much footage of him fighting through heavy traffic for yards. 

 

[njbuff]

36 minutes ago, 32ABBA said:

 

I love Singletary, but I don't know that I'm looking for a second 5'8 running back. I think one is enough.

 

I have no idea why people like Akers so much, I don't see much footage of him fighting through heavy traffic for yards. 

 

 

Akers is darn good.

 

He can do it all out there.

 

Remember, he had one of the worst OL's in all of college football and still managed to produce.

 

Plus, McBeane likes those 5 star recruits. ?

[CEN-CAL17]

29 minutes ago, 32ABBA said:

 

I love Singletary, but I don't know that I'm looking for a second 5'8 running back. I think one is enough.

 

I have no idea why people like Akers so much, I don't see much footage of him fighting through heavy traffic for yards. 

 

5 star athlete coming out of High School, some feel he was under utilized at FSU, he’s a 220 lb back 4.47 speed, strong kid, showed off at the combine... the potential is there. But I’m kind of leaning with you. How tough is the kid? What’s the ethic like? Is he a between the tackle kid? 

There’s a lot to desire there.

 

CEH is another 5’8” RB. But he’s a round 2 guy. My point is I feel the Bills will go after a round 4 RB, but have to trade up to the top 5-10. I think McFarland and Kelley fit that Bill. 
 

I just don’t think Beane is looking for the Thunder and Lightning backfield. More like Quick lightning and fast lightning. Both great out of the backfield....

 

As far as bigger RBs round 5/6 Michael Warren RB Cincy. Tough runner, 226 lbs 4.5 guy. Used a lot on the goal line but looks like a RB2 type.

 

I just think the Bills need a guy who can out run the defense. 
 

 

[Prickly Pete]

11 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

Akers is darn good.

 

He can do it all out there.

 

Remember, he had one of the worst OL's in all of college football and still managed to produce.

 

Plus, McBeane likes those 5 star recruits. ?

 

 

It's not the O-line. He has nice runs, but they all seem like it's him breaking through an arm tackle, then going into open space. Sure, maybe it's just that he is so elusive they can't even touch him haha...but I wanna see some of him fighting for some tough yards, and pulling some guys forward (Singletary does).

 

 

Edited April 3, 2020 by 32ABBA

[Thurman#1]

11 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Sorry but you are wrong.  You forget that the Bills DID move up at least twice in the last 3 drafts. Jones, Dawkins,  Allen, Edmonds, Ford,  Knox,  obtained by move ups using 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th round picks. (Diggs is essentially a "trade up" that gets a top WR  by using draft picks)That is NOT taking BPA, it is moving up-you would call that reaching. You seem to confuse Beane getting the players he wants to improve the team, with "reaching". ... ... There IS no magic Big Board in the sky that always leads to heaven.  You have to build a balanced team. .. Beane has coordenated the use of FA, trades and the draft.

 

 

 

Yeah, I get that you think I'm wrong. Thing is, I'm not. I didn't say we didn't move up as you imply. I pointed out that the situations were very specific ... every single time. Which is correct, they were. You're the one who was wrong here. Here's what I said again, and it's true again: Each time we traded up, we were either acquiring a franchise QB with a huge stash of draft capital we'd built up specifically for the purpose, and that other than that we didn't leave ourselves any empty rounds, trading only picks from rounds where we had two or more. That's the pattern. And if they continue it, it would make total sense that they would at some point during this draft trade one of our two sixth-round picks to move up. That would move us up very little in the 2nd round, though.

 

And if you feel the need to kid yourself that we didn't use BPA ... hey, that's your business. I'm not going to try to persuade you of something you're not willing to believe. But for others reading here, the huge majority are very very aware that Beane constantly talks about BPA, literally every single time he's asked, for a very simple reason, and that that reason is that he's a BPA guy. He uses BPA because he believes in it.

 

You're right, "there's no magic Big Board in the sky," but there actually is a Big Board at OBD, probably in Beane's office, and he'll use it. Again, that's fine if you want to ignore that, go ahead.

 

And yes, they've built a very balanced team. They build the core for the future through the draft. And they fill in holes and balance the team by filling in needs through FA and occasionally trades such as the Diggs trade. Every year he talks about using FA (and trades) to fill in the gaps so he cau use BPA in the draft. Again, he's said so a million times and he's backed up his words every time.

 

 

[Thurman#1]

11 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Using BPA isn't losing. It's the smart play. It's their draft strategy and a major part of what has gotten this roster so good so fast.

 

Sorry, but you seem to be living in the past and staying with a strategy that is not appropriate to a team that is in the top 10 or so. If a team is in the bottom eight, BPA is a good idea, because nearly every draft pick will make the roster and be an improvement. That is not where the Bills are at right now.

 

What we need to get in the draft is not “best value from every pick” but to get players who can beat the opponent’s players on very good teams. You don’t seem to be able to understand that. So using lower round draft picks (who might not even make the team) to move up to get such superior players is what we need to do.

 

If you have a good roster, you look for holes in the roster and look for places where you can put in a stud to replace a good player. Quality, not “cost effective 3^rd teamers. .. If you still have lower draft picks left over- then take moon shots.

 

Right now RB1b/RB1a is the best place to get the biggest improvement and a place where we can put in a player that other teams will have to account for. The top 5 are very very good and we even have a shot at one of the top 3. I think Beane anticipated this would likely happened and made his FA moves accordingly.

 

 

 

Yup, I am indeed living in the past. Specifically, looking at what Beane has done in the past and what it shows about him and how he operates. More, I look at what he's said in the past. And he's never said or done anything to indicate that BPA is a strategy that is, "not appropriate to a team that is in the top 10 or so." Know who believes that? You. Not Beane. Beane's past does indeed show that he goes BPA. He says he will. Then he does it every single time. And then he tells us that he did it. That's how it works with him. He's a BPA guy. And he's continued to say so this year. Every time he's asked.

 

I get it. You don't like that. And if you were the GM of the Buffalo Bills, that would worry me deeply. But it doesn't concern me in the least that there's a guy on the internet who believes that drafting for need is a good idea. That's fine. If it were Beane who thought that, I'd gird my loins for another few years losing. We've had a lot of GMs through the years of the drought who would make moves for need. Thank goodness Beane believes just the opposite

 

You perceive a need at RB2. Fine. And you think that having a need MUST mean that it MUST be addressed as early as possible in the draft. Again, fine. But that's classic drafting for need and classic willingness to reach to fill that need. Again, totally fine that that's your opinion. But it's not Beane's.

Edited April 3, 2020 by Thurman#1

[JetsFan20]

Singletary is a stud.

 

One guy I like in this draft is Perine out of Florida. 

[Mat68]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

 

Yup, I am indeed living in the past. Specifically, looking at what Beane has done in the past and what it shows about him and how he operates. More, I look at what he's said in the past. And he's never said or done anything to indicate that BPA is a strategy that is, "not appropriate to a team that is in the top 10 or so." Know who believes that? You. Not Beane. Beane's past does indeed show that he goes BPA. He says he will. Then he does it every single time. And then he tells us that he did it. That's how it works with him. He's a BPA guy. And he's continued to say so this year. Every time he's asked.

 

I get it. You don't like that. And if you were the GM of the Buffalo Bills, that would worry me deeply. But it doesn't concern me in the least that there's a guy on the internet who believes that drafting for need is a good idea. That's fine. If it were Beane who thought that, I'd gird my loins for another few years losing. We've had a lot of GMs through the years of the drought who would make moves for need. Thank goodness Beane believes just the opposite

 

You perceive a need at RB2. Fine. And you think that having a need MUST mean that it MUST be addressed as early as possible in the draft. Again, fine. But that's classic drafting for need and classic willingness to reach to fill that need. Again, totally fine that that's your opinion. But it's not Beane's.

In Rd 2 or 3 I think it is highly probable Rb is one of the highest rated groups.  

[newcam2012]

4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Yeah, I get that you think I'm wrong. Thing is, I'm not. I didn't say we didn't move up as you imply. I pointed out that the situations were very specific ... every single time. Which is correct, they were. You're the one who was wrong here. Here's what I said again, and it's true again: Each time we traded up, we were either acquiring a franchise QB with a huge stash of draft capital we'd built up specifically for the purpose, and that other than that we didn't leave ourselves any empty rounds, trading only picks from rounds where we had two or more. That's the pattern. And if they continue it, it would make total sense that they would at some point during this draft trade one of our two sixth-round picks to move up. That would move us up very little in the 2nd round, though.

 

And if you feel the need to kid yourself that we didn't use BPA ... hey, that's your business. I'm not going to try to persuade you of something you're not willing to believe. But for others reading here, the huge majority are very very aware that Beane constantly talks about BPA, literally every single time he's asked, for a very simple reason, and that that reason is that he's a BPA guy. He uses BPA because he believes in it.

 

You're right, "there's no magic Big Board in the sky," but there actually is a Big Board at OBD, probably in Beane's office, and he'll use it. Again, that's fine if you want to ignore that, go ahead.

 

And yes, they've built a very balanced team. They build the core for the future through the draft. And they fill in holes and balance the team by filling in needs through FA and occasionally trades such as the Diggs trade. Every year he talks about using FA (and trades) to fill in the gaps so he cau use BPA in the draft. Again, he's said so a million times and he's backed up his words every time.

 

 

I agree. Imho, he won't waiver much off his BPA board.

[OldTimer1960]

34 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

In Rd 2 or 3 I think it is highly probable Rb is one of the highest rated groups.  

THIS is the point - at least in my opinion.  I don’t think they would take RB in round 2 unless they feel that the RBs are graded at or very near the top of their board of remaining players.  I think that is fairly likely to be the case.  If there are players at other positions, particularly DE or CB that they rate equal to or higher than the available RBs, then I think they will take the DE or CB.

 

I do not think that they will take a WR in round 2, even if graded highly unless they are graded SO much higher than other positions that they just can’t avoid picking him.  That would be equivalent to trading up in round 1 for WR (Diggs) and then taking WR again in round 2.

[Dopey]

11 hours ago, 32ABBA said:

 

 

It's not the O-line. He has nice runs, but they all seem like it's him breaking through an arm tackle, then going into open space. Sure, maybe it's just that he is so elusive they can't even touch him haha...but I wanna see some of him fighting for some tough yards, and pulling some guys forward (Singletary does).

 

 

Highlight films are not geared to show tough runs and getting a couple of tough yards. They show long gains, for the most part. Cam can do it all. Iv'e watched him his whole college career. With as bad as that line was, Cam had some insane stat of getting the ball with the defense already in the backfield. Anyway, checkout this write up from Ganggreen.

https://www.ganggreennation.com/2020/3/4/21160690/2020-nfl-draft-prospect-rb-cam-akers

 

 

[MrEpsYtown]

A little outside the box, but before I give up on him, I give Ray-Ray McCloud a shot at playing running back. He’s just not a receiver in the NFL because he does not catch the ball well enough. He isn’t great as a gadget player because he does not have the speed of a McKenzie. But his success as a punt returner and gadget player in college was a result of his vision, which I think is one of the most important traits of a running back. I don’t see why he couldn’t be a Dion Lewis type of back. Ray Ray was such a big time recruit as a running back that if he went somewhere besides Clemson he would have probably developed into a pro running back. The change of pace back we are looking for might already be on the roster. And he has to switch numbers anyways ?‍♂️. Just my 2 cents. 

[JustWinPlease]

If Devin Singletary can't handle competition, then I don't want him on my team.

You don't pass up a player because you want another player to get more touches...build the strongest team you can and the rest will sort itself out.

[DJB]

 

Edited April 3, 2020 by DJB

[TigerJ]

For years, we have expected, and normally saw the Bills find starters in the draft.  That's what every team expects.  Lacking a first round pick, there is a very real possibility the Bills will not find a starter in this draft.  What position could they draft where a starter could be found.  Of course, it won't be at QB.  Or WR.  A starter on the offensive line is unlikely. The Bills look like they're pretty happy with their TE group and likely wont draft any.  At RB, they have Singletary, who looks like he can handle the position at the pro level.  On defense, there's not much room on the line for a new starter.  Maybe they could draft a linebacker to replace Lorenzo Alexander, but Lorax only played a limited number of snaps at linebacker.  When the defense was in a nickel formation, Alexander either moved to the line or came off the field.  The Bills already have some worthy candidates on the team for Alexander's role.  If Zack Baun drops to them, they might jump, but the odds are good he'll go quite a bit earlier.   The Bills could draft an edge rusher, but he would almost certainly be in a rotation rather than being anything close to a full time player.  There is no safety the Bills could draft who is going to unseat Hyde or Poyer.  At CB, there is a chance a second round rookie could unseat Levi Wallace and beat out bother EJ Gaines and Josh Norman, but the Bills don't seem to have any great urgency to find that guy.  

 

I think that the Bills are content to find a role player in the second round.  I think running back is certainly a candidate to be the pick and there will be good value there, and the Bills need to find someone reliable to share the load with Singletary.  They need an all around back who can get outside, run between tackles, catch passes and learn to be effective in blitz pickup.  In short, they need a player who is a threat to do some actual damage when Singletary is not in the game, a running back who won't suddenly make the Bills offense predictable just by coming on the field.

 

I think it is possible they could instead draft an edge rusher, or a linebacker or an offensive lineman or a cornerback.  They might get a starter, but I don't think Beane will be crushed if they end up with a role player.

Edited April 4, 2020 by TigerJ

[BobbyC81]

On 3/29/2020 at 7:05 PM, Bangarang said:

Just draft good players and the best ones will play. If we draft a RB that deserves to get the bulk of the carries right away then so be it. Singletary can be a quality #2. I don’t see how this is a problem.

 

If Singletary can’t handle a little competition, he should be doing something else.

[njbuff]

1 hour ago, ColeB said:

 

If Singletary can’t handle a little competition, he should be doing something else.

 

It's not competition.

 

The Bills need another RB they can count on besides DS.

 

We all saw how the offense completely stalled when Singletary wasn't in games later in the season.

 

A quality RB2 is of the highest priority on this team.

[maryland-bills-fan]

4 hours ago, njbuff said:

 

It's not competition.

 

The Bills need another RB they can count on besides DS.

 

We all saw how the offense completely stalled when Singletary wasn't in games later in the season.

 

A quality RB2 is of the highest priority on this team.

 

 

I like Singletary but when you look up the ratings of NFL RB’s in 2019, the best I see him rated is #20. Maybe other posters know or can find other reports that have him rated higher. “20” is about bottom third of the league. If we are to be a contender, I would like to see our RB rated in the top 10.

 

 

Singletary is #22 here:

 

https://www.thedelite.com/nfl-starting-running-backs-ranked-for-2019-season

 

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Singletary is #20 here:

 

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/rb/2019

 

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Singletary is #20 here in a composite fantasy list:

 

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/rb-cheatsheets.php

 

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Singletary is #30 here: (nlf.com)

 

https://www.tennesseetitans.com/video/nfl-com-ranks-nfl-s-top-running-backs-of-2019

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others ?   please add other rankings

[The Jokeman]

On 3/31/2020 at 8:35 PM, RocCityRoller said:

Hey Virgil, like the post as usual. The team is bereft of ball carriers after Motor. The RB position is devalued, but is still important. Nothing helps a young QB better than a good O-line and a good running game.

 

If I ran a team I would draft a RB every year/ every other year in rounds 3-5. If I was a GM and had two capable RBs with 2-3 yrs on their rookie contract I would pass on drafting one unless they were the clear BPA. I also wouldn't shell out Todd Gurley/ LeVeon Bell money on FAs or guys about to become FA. If I had an Elliott/ Henry type I may extend, but only in those circumstances.

 

Right now Buffalo has 1 capable RB with 3 yrs left on is rookie contract, that is Motor. So I would draft one in rounds 3-5 this year. Now if a Jonathan Taylor who almost had 3x2000 seasons falls to me in the 2nd, I do it immediately. I would also want complimentary backs. A big guy and a fast guy, or  mauler/blocker and a pass catcher.

 

With a plethora of 1-2nd round graded QBs/ WRs and OT's and a shortage of impact DE and Edge this is the perfect year to snag a top tier RB in the 2nd round. I've been on plenty of simulated drafts and seen mocks with Taylor or Dobbins fall to 54. If there is some DE/Edge, RT, TE, CB that falls to 54 fine take him, but you better bet I am dialing up a RB in the 3rd.

 

 

Don't forget Beane and the Panthers took Johnathan Stewart when already had DeAngelo Williams. I'm not saying we definitely will take a RB but if a quality guys falls to us I can't see us passing on one. Yet could see us going Edge rusher (DE or LB) or maybe CB.

[BaaadThingsMan]

Grab another guy. If Singletary is the man, he'll keep him on the bench until he needs a spell. In a perfect scenario the guy they draft won't need many plays to break a big one. 6 carries 87 yards and a TD is a nice compliment to the lead guy.

[CBD]

On 4/3/2020 at 3:06 AM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

 

Yup, I am indeed living in the past. Specifically, looking at what Beane has done in the past and what it shows about him and how he operates. More, I look at what he's said in the past. And he's never said or done anything to indicate that BPA is a strategy that is, "not appropriate to a team that is in the top 10 or so." Know who believes that? You. Not Beane. Beane's past does indeed show that he goes BPA. He says he will. Then he does it every single time. And then he tells us that he did it. That's how it works with him. He's a BPA guy. And he's continued to say so this year. Every time he's asked.

Thought this excerpt from Beane's call in early April provides some clarity to his strategy related to Best Player Available, especially the underlined portion at the end of his answer:

 

Quote

Q: I’m curious. I guess this could go either way. You’re kind of in a spot where I know you love going best player available and you’re in a good position to do that since your starting lineups intact. You mentioned on the last question that getting a rookie receiver up to speed would have been tough, you know, with this offseason kind of in flux. You think, with the offseason that way, that you’ll maybe lean more towards guys in the draft that need time to develop because you’ve got the luxury of a starting lineup intact or are you looking for guys that you know from your recon that are able to pick things up quicker?

A: Yeah, I mean, I don’t know. It may be a tiebreaker, but I’m not gonna pass up a good player. I’m still gonna go best player available. We do put a lot of emphasis on knowledge and the ability to learn and process information. Guys learn different ways, you know some need to walk through, some can do it off the video, some need to be up on board but as long as we know, they can learn it in one of those forms or fashion. Some maybe take a little bit longer, but I don’t want to pass up a talented player, if I know he can get there, even though, to your point, he may have a slower start if we don’t have much of an offseason here, but we’re really looking. Earlier as I was talking to you guys back when we spoke in the draft room back midseason whenever that was, early in the draft is definitely best player available. As you move later in the draft, then you start looking at, okay, what are some needs? Because now the best player available may not make our team in the fifth round if we’ve already drafted someone there or filled up that position in free agency. So early on, second, third and through there, will definitely be best player offense, defense, whatever.

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/4/3/21206671/transcript-buffalo-bills-general-manager-brandon-beane-2020-free-agency-stefon-diggs-coronavirus

[Lurker]

10 minutes ago, CBD said:

Thought this excerpt from Beane's call in early April provides some clarity to his strategy related to Best Player Available, especially the underlined portion at the end of his answer:

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/4/3/21206671/transcript-buffalo-bills-general-manager-brandon-beane-2020-free-agency-stefon-diggs-coronavirus

 

This is my go to Beane quote, from the April 1 press conference:

 

“If there’s a guy that I think fits a need and the value, that’s probably where I get — some people may say — too aggressive in the draft. But, if there’s a guy that I think is a real sure fit, if I overpay a little bit, so be it,” Beane said Thursday. “It’s better than waiting, sitting on my hands and I’m not really fired up about a guy when my pick comes up. That’s just my viewpoint. That may not be 31 other GMs, but that’s how I see it.”

[Virgil]

How is this thread still alive?

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

This is my go to Beane quote, from the April 1 press conference:

 

“If there’s a guy that I think fits a need and the value, that’s probably where I get — some people may say — too aggressive in the draft. But, if there’s a guy that I think is a real sure fit, if I overpay a little bit, so be it,” Beane said Thursday. “It’s better than waiting, sitting on my hands and I’m not really fired up about a guy when my pick comes up. That’s just my viewpoint. That may not be 31 other GMs, but that’s how I see it.”

And that’s no smokescreen considering that’s what he’s actually done in previous drafts. The other thing he said was they will watch for any players they gave a 1st rd grade to who might be sitting there in the 2nd rd and take a good look at that (ie trade up) like they did for Ford last year. This year though I don’t know how much that would actually happen. Matt Miller only had 20 guys with 1st rd grades so I wonder if the Bills board is any deeper there.

[maryland-bills-fan]

19 minutes ago, Virgil said:

How is this thread still alive?

We just like seeing your picture.

 

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

We just like seeing your picture.

 

 

That's as good a reason as any

 

[maryland-bills-fan]

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

 

That's as good a reason as any

 

This comment will be good for about another 20 posts.

 

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McCaffrey      $16,0 million a year                  1,387 yards rushing            1,005 yards receiving                   1st round pick 8          rank at RB   1     

 

Diggs               $14.4 million a year                 -------------------------------            1,130 yards receiving                  

 

Yeldon             $01.5 million a year                       63 yards rushing               124 yards receiving                  2nd round  pick 36       rank at RB 96

 

Singeltary       $00.97 million a year                  775 yards rushing               194 yards receiving                   3rd round   pick   4          rank at RB 31

 

 

You get what you pay for.

 

 

[T master]

Todays NFL as far as RB's are concerned is much different from back in the day as you & I well know todays back field is a RB by commity type approach unless you find a Derrick Henry type back that is big & can take the pounding, i for one would like a back that is different from Singletary he is a smaller type back that as Beane said can make guys miss in a phone booth but his speed isn't elite .

 

McD loves versatility in his players & i have read some on a player that would be a good get in the later rounds if there & the Bills could focus on CB, OL, DE or safety with the earlier picks .

 

My guy is Antonio Gibson as a late round RB with a ton of versatility he could play ST's as a KR & be the #3 RB while doing that to learn from Singletary & Yeldon .

 

He is just about as different (yet a compliment) to Singletary as you can get, dude runs a 4.39 / 40 is 6'2" tall & 220 lbs with room to add muscle if he's there in the 4th that would be a great get & it could do away with some higher priced contracts & get the team younger at the same time plus add a all around weapon to 3 aspects of the team RB, ST's & receiving skills . He's got my vote .

[Mr. K]

Cost controlled youth movement with a added vet for the room. I dont mind going after RB with a 3rd-5th rd pick for depth and development (Not Wade level developement). Im not going to be shocked if they take interior players or DB in the 2nd round if Beane doesnt move up.

[maryland-bills-fan]

39 minutes ago, Mr. K said:

Cost controlled youth movement with a added vet for the room. I dont mind going after RB with a 3rd-5th rd pick for depth and development (Not Wade level developement). Im not going to be shocked if they take interior players or DB in the 2nd round if Beane doesnt move up.

Singletary is usually ranked about #20 for NFL running backs in 2019.  I looked hard and that is about what I found.  If you disagree, then find something in his production or other evaluations and show a couple that would change that.  The RB gets 15-20 touches per game (https://www.lineups.com/nfl/player-stats/running-back-rb-touches).    That is about 40% of the touches?   Is this the place to put a 5th round player, when you are trying to get deep into the playoffs?   Its okay to use the 5th round player if you just want to show up and sell tickets.

 

 

 

[Prospector]

On 3/29/2020 at 6:40 PM, Virgil said:

I’m probably going to regret this post as it even sounds dumb in my head to a degree, but that’s means it’s perfect for the offseason. 
 

There’s a lot of talk about the Bills getting a RB in rounds 2-4 in April’s draft.  In recent years, your top 3 runningbacks might fall into that range and there’s some serious studs in this years draft.  
 

With that....

 

Does anyone worry about bringing in a guy that could also be a full blown, every down back in with Singletary?   I am of the camp that RB’s need to get into a rhythm throughout a game.  Look at Derrick Henry.  He doesn’t just knock people over out of the gate.  He builds abs builds until he starts busting off long runs in the second half.  
 

Also, I worry about confidence to a certain degree.  Motor isn’t a seasoned vet.  You want people out there who know they are “the guy”.
 

That’s pretty much all I’ve got.  Feel free to tell me how they are all millionaires and there’s no crying in baseball  

Don’t worry boo, if they go RB in round 2 or 3 it will be for a Fantastic Prospect! I absolutely love this RB class... with how strong our roster is, this is one of the few spots where a newbie can make an impact

[Mr. K]

5 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Singletary is usually ranked about #20 for NFL running backs in 2019.  I looked hard and that is about what I found.  If you disagree, then find something in his production or other evaluations and show a couple that would change that.  The RB gets 15-20 touches per game (https://www.lineups.com/nfl/player-stats/running-back-rb-touches).    That is about 40% of the touches?   Is this the place to put a 5th round player, when you are trying to get deep into the playoffs?   Its okay to use the 5th round player if you just want to show up and sell tickets.

 

 

 

 

I don't think most 3rd-5th round picks are putting fans in the seats. I mean do you think that 2020 is going to depend on players from this draft? Building a team requires having talent across the board. Motor is good and could be special but after that do you want TJ Yeldon filling in for any imaginable reason. Its just adding talent and its only hypothetical at that.