Bills signing Daryl Williams OT

[Fan in Chicago]

4 hours ago, Spiderweb said:

Why? Why? Why? Absolute turnstile. Complete waste.

I too watched every snap he played and came away with the same opinion. But I decided to keep my analysis to myself so my unsupported thoughts wouldn't remove all doubts about my ignorance 

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

Three years removed from being an All-Pro RT in 2017 and another year removed from his big injury in 2018...I'd argue that he was criminally misused and not allowed to get comfortable at one position last season on a bad Carolina team blocking for below average QBs. For all those reasons, it's not unreasonable to expect an improved season from DW.

 

The risk vs reward on this move is significantly in our favor and despite the fact that it feels like WIlliams has been around for forever, I was happily surprised to learn he's only 27. Love the signing. 

[John from Riverside]

Do we know yet how much he got paid

[Motor26]

Really hope they do make it an open competition and Ford wins it outright. Hoping he shows big things this season!

[Tesla03]

On 3/26/2020 at 6:25 PM, Chicken Boo said:

Profootballtalk called him a massive liability on the right side for Carolina last season.

 

Why would he magically be any good here?  

 

Beane is basically banking on a short term career revival.its a quick fix at the position hence the 1 yr deal. 

[vincec]

18 hours ago, simpleman said:

Beane has made a lot of gambling signings this year. I'd rather he do that, than just stand pat. But let's not anoint him a genius until he actually proves it. He made one major signing that can be game changing. He made numerous "depth" signings. He made a number of signings that were health gambles like EJ and Williams, that "MAY" turn out. We can only hope he can make what appeared to be a depth signing like in the case of Poyer and Lorenzo , who turned out to be a huge winners.(Not HIS victories). But we need to wait to see how his gambles turn out before we give him a win. We can hope for another Poyer signing, but they are quite rare. We have declared a lot of "Winning Pre Seasons" in the past and found out that they did not result in "Winning Seasons". Let us just hope and wait before we judge.

 

 

Beanie didn’t sign Alexander, but I get your point.

[thebandit27]

8 hours ago, Tesla03 said:

 

Beane is basically banking on a short term career revival.its a quick fix at the position hence the 1 yr deal. 

He’s not really banking on anything per se; he’s got two RTs in the mix without Williams.

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

He’s not really banking on anything per se; he’s got two RTs in the mix without Williams.

 

Yea while RT was in the category of "positions that could stand to be upgraded" it was not a dire desperate need. If Williams is an upgrade fantastic. 

[Buddo]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea while RT was in the category of "positions that could stand to be upgraded" it was not a dire desperate need. If Williams is an upgrade fantastic. 

 

In essence, you will now have a 4 way competition to start ar RT, between Ford, Nsekhe, Waddle and Williams.

 

However it pans out, I believe we will see improved play from the position.

 

It also gives us much more flexibility in respect of the inevitable injuries that happen.

 

We definitely could have done with better depth at the tackle position last year, and with Waddle returning, and the signing of Williams, we now have that.

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Buddo said:

In essence, you will now have a 4 way competition to start ar RT, between Ford, Nsekhe, Waddle and Williams.

 

However it pans out, I believe we will see improved play from the position.

 

It also gives us much more flexibility in respect of the inevitable injuries that happen.

 

We definitely could have done with better depth at the tackle position last year, and with Waddle returning, and the signing of Williams, we now have that.

 

 Waddle is currently an UFA.  I don't know if the Bills have plans on bringing him in for competition, but it couldn't hurt.

[atlbillsfan1975]

9 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

 Waddle is currently an UFA.  I don't know if the Bills have plans on bringing him in for competition, but it couldn't hurt.

Correct, take out Waddle and put in Bates.

i can see been flipping Bates to a team for a fourth or fifth before final cuts. Hopefully showcase Bates In preseason and get back the 4th from the Diggs trade. 

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

 Waddle is currently an UFA.  I don't know if the Bills have plans on bringing him in for competition, but it couldn't hurt.

 

There was a story they had brought him back but I have never seen any formal confirmation.

[Buddo]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

 Waddle is currently an UFA.  I don't know if the Bills have plans on bringing him in for competition, but it couldn't hurt.

 

My understanding was that he will be re-signing, but I may be wrong. It might be that due to a lack of physicals etc. the paperwork hasn't gone through yet, but I'm sure I've seen that he was going to re-sign. Just can't remember where off the top of my head.

 

After hitting google, it appears I'm mistaken, but I have no idea why. Thanks for the correction.

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

There was a story they had brought him back but I have never seen any formal confirmation.

 

Can you remember where, or when that was?

 

At least I wasn't imagining it.

[simpleman]

4 hours ago, vincec said:

Beanie didn’t sign Alexander, but I get your point.

I specifically mentioned " not his victories" when I mentioned Poyer and Alexander. But i meant it definitely has happened, and sure hope it does again. Both were considered by most to be strictly low risk depth signings of players who had just mediocre success with other teams, and instead they blossomed into key cogs for the Bills. Further back in Bills history I can think of Hughes in the same light. How many expected their signings to turn out so spectacularly?  Time will tell, fingers crossed.

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Correct, take out Waddle and put in Bates.

i can see been flipping Bates to a team for a fourth or fifth before final cuts. Hopefully showcase Bates In preseason and get back the 4th from the Diggs trade. 

 

I want to see what Bates can do.  Seemed like a promising late off-season pickup for them. 

 

7 minutes ago, Buddo said:

My understanding was that he will be re-signing, but I may be wrong. It might be that due to a lack of physicals etc. the paperwork hasn't gone through yet, but I'm sure I've seen that he was going to re-sign. Just can't remember where off the top of my head.

 

After hitting google, it appears I'm mistaken, but I have no idea why. Thanks for the correction.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if they brought him back for the league minimum.  I can't believe there's a lot of interest in his services coming off an injury.

[ehfeuh57]

[Fan in Chicago]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea while RT was in the category of "positions that could stand to be upgraded" it was not a dire desperate need. If Williams is an upgrade fantastic. 

Positional flexibility undoubtedly went into his evaluation. 

[ColoradoBills]

17 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Do we know yet how much he got paid

 

Haven't heard anything on the contract.

He made 6 million last year on a 1 year, played out of position and failed there.

Sat a good while as a FA so I imagine quite a lot less than last year.

 

A 1 year prove it deal for Spain last year was 2 million with a small signing bonus.

I'm suspecting something around that for Williams.

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 hours ago, simpleman said:

I specifically mentioned " not his victories" when I mentioned Poyer and Alexander. But i meant it definitely has happened, and sure hope it does again. Both were considered by most to be strictly low risk depth signings of players who had just mediocre success with other teams, and instead they blossomed into key cogs for the Bills. Further back in Bills history I can think of Hughes in the same light. How many expected their signings to turn out so spectacularly?  Time will tell, fingers crossed.

Hughes was a trade not a free agent signing

[simpleman]

1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Hughes was a trade not a free agent signing

And I never stated he was.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

14 minutes ago, simpleman said:

And I never stated he was.

You wrote "their signings". That in fact is stating he was a signing.  Proper English would have been their acquisition which would be inclusive of free agency or trade. 

[BillsFan4]

On 3/26/2020 at 6:14 PM, ALF said:

One of the best right tackles in the league in 2017,    from Rotoworld  

 

https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/1171/daryl-williams

And he had a severe knee injury that caused him to miss almost all of 2018. I’m not surprised he had a bit of a down year last season. Hopefully he can get back to his 2017 form. 

 

Very nice depth addition at worst.

[Mango]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea while RT was in the category of "positions that could stand to be upgraded" it was not a dire desperate need. If Williams is an upgrade fantastic. 

Disagree. Nsekhe is a decent starter but can’t stay healthy. Ford is a liability. Not bringing in somebody who can start would be an absolute gamble on either Ford taking a giant leap or Nsekhe staying healthy for 16 weeks without having to regularly be rotated in and out. 

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, Buddo said:

 

In essence, you will now have a 4 way competition to start ar RT, between Ford, Nsekhe, Waddle and Williams.

 

However it pans out, I believe we will see improved play from the position.

 

It also gives us much more flexibility in respect of the inevitable injuries that happen.

 

We definitely could have done with better depth at the tackle position last year, and with Waddle returning, and the signing of Williams, we now have that.

Is waddle even signed 

[YoloinOhio]

19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Is waddle even signed 

No

[Ethan in Cleveland]

32 minutes ago, Mango said:

Disagree. Nsekhe is a decent starter but can’t stay healthy. Ford is a liability. Not bringing in somebody who can start would be an absolute gamble on either Ford taking a giant leap or Nsekhe staying healthy for 16 weeks without having to regularly be rotated in and out. 

Rookies can get better. But having options is a good thing.

[Seasons1992]

On 3/26/2020 at 6:32 PM, Binghamton Beast said:

Imagine if we get a new, indoor stadium?

Mind your tongue.....

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I want to see what Bates can do.  Seemed like a promising late off-season pickup for them. 

 

 

It wouldn't surprise me if they brought him back for the league minimum.  I can't believe there's a lot of interest in his services coming off an injury.

Bates to me is a center/guard and I totally agree he should be on the teM

[Punching Bag]

On 3/26/2020 at 6:25 PM, Chicken Boo said:

Profootballtalk called him a massive liability on the right side for Carolina last season.

 

Why would he magically be any good here?  

 

We call Profootballtalk a replacement for toilet paper online. Why should we care?

[John from Riverside]

3 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

We call Profootballtalk a replacement for toilet paper online. Why should we care?

Cuz complainers have to have some bull#### source for hopes of adding cred to their post

 

how about this Williams as early as 3 years ago was a very good ol

 

he had a major injury

 

he played last year but didn’t look fully recovered

 

the bills.....probably for cheap.......are going to kick the tires to see if he returns to form if the nfl already knew this he would probably be getting a massive contract because good ol is hard to find

 

meanwhile it’s not a huge position of need but always looking to improve

[Doc]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Bates to me is a center/guard and I totally agree he should be on the teM

 

I believe he was the backup at both OT spots.

 

1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

We call Profootballtalk a replacement for toilet paper online. Why should we care?

 

That would make for a messy computer screen.

[Nitro]

Gave up a lot of sacks last week but that could be due to coming off an injury.  Still would like to see them draft OL talent this year.  

[njbuff]

54 minutes ago, Nitro said:

Gave up a lot of sacks last week but that could be due to coming off an injury.  Still would like to see them draft OL talent this year.  

 

I didn't know the Panthers played last week.

 

Thanks for telling us.

 

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[DrPJax]

On 3/28/2020 at 5:43 PM, Nitro said:

Gave up a lot of sacks last week but that could be due to coming off an injury.  Still would like to see them draft OL talent this year.  

Pretty sure OP meant last year. He is correct as Williams gave up 12 sacks last year which was the worst of all guards.  His best year was 2017 where he rated out as a top 5 RT.  Had injuries and moved to guard which apparently didn’t turn out well. Perhaps he will compete for backup at RT as I doubt he will beat out Ford unless he returns to his 2017 form. 

[Chicken Boo]

On 3/28/2020 at 3:43 PM, John from Riverside said:

Cuz complainers have to have some bull#### source for hopes of adding cred to their post

 

how about this Williams as early as 3 years ago was a very good ol

 

So apparently he gave up 12 sacks last year.  

 

If ever there were a reason to "complain"...

[ComradeKayAdams]

starters:  Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Ford - Williams

 

backups: Nsekhe, Long, Feliciano, Bates, Boettger, Salako

 

This is a really solid group! They lack elite talent but have outstanding depth. Can the Bills even find a rookie OL starter in the draft outside the top 53 picks? Can any OL draft pick outside the top 85 picks even crack this roster's top 8?

 

 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, RealKayAdams said:

starters:  Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Ford - Williams

 

backups: Nsekhe, Long, Feliciano, Bates, Boettger, Salako

 

This is a really solid group! They lack elite talent but have outstanding depth. Can the Bills even find a rookie OL starter in the draft outside the top 53 picks? Can any OL draft pick outside the top 85 picks even crack this roster's top 8?

 

 

 

I would be surprised if they draft an OL early now. Developmental practice squad type later in day 3 I can see. The battle between Bates and Boettger for the 9th and final roster spot there promises to be a good one. 

[Bangarang]

2 hours ago, RealKayAdams said:

starters:  Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Ford - Williams

 

backups: Nsekhe, Long, Feliciano, Bates, Boettger, Salako

 

This is a really solid group! They lack elite talent but have outstanding depth. Can the Bills even find a rookie OL starter in the draft outside the top 53 picks? Can any OL draft pick outside the top 85 picks even crack this roster's top 8?

 

 

I think it’s really premature to declare Williams the starter at RT. I’m sure he’ll be part of the competition though.

[Nitro]

On 3/28/2020 at 6:38 PM, njbuff said:

 

I didn't know the Panthers played last week.

 

Thanks for telling us.

 

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Sorry but a twelve hour shift in 911 can make a person imperfect.  I meant last season.  Thanks for pointing in out.

[BillsFanForever19]

On 3/31/2020 at 5:12 AM, RealKayAdams said:

starters:  Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Ford - Williams

 

backups: Nsekhe, Long, Feliciano, Bates, Boettger, Salako

 

This is a really solid group! They lack elite talent but have outstanding depth. Can the Bills even find a rookie OL starter in the draft outside the top 53 picks? Can any OL draft pick outside the top 85 picks even crack this roster's top 8?

 

 

 

I don't see any way Feliciano is benched after how he performed last season. I think it's a 3 way competition between Williams, Ford, and Nskhe at RT. All will make the roster and be used. Especially with Williams and Ford's ability to slide inside.