BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) He’s got a bloated contract and a bum knee, No Thank you!!! We already went this route with McCoy and what did we win with McCoy?? ZERO!!! Would rather take my chances with Gordon who’s a free agent as opposed to trading draft picks for a RB who looked done last year Edited March 19, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) That Rams roster is a mess. The top 10 cap hits on that roster add up to nearly 72% of their cap (compare that to the Bills whose top 10 contracts add up to 42% of the cap) even if you take off Goff that roster's top 9 still eat up 55% of their cap (which is still pretty bad for just 9 contracts.) That along with the team being low on draft picks (no first this year and next year along with missing some other late round picks) is probably going to lead them to be pretty mediocre unless they can unload Gurley and possibly Cooks. They really should have avoided paying Goff for as long as possible and not extended Gurley. Cooks at least is a positive player. Not having Goff and Gurley on massive deals would have given them the chance to sustain winning a lot longer. Edited March 19, 2020 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: I'm fine with a short-term deal if he gets cut. Looks like the Rams are starting to feel the pain of giving Goff the contract they did. Goff is getting paid what QBs get paid. That contract is fine It the lack of cheap picks they have. They have to pay guys like Ramsey and they are out of money and n cheap high picks to replace them. They had an opportunity for sustained success and blew it. Gonna be 8-8 for a long time now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 The Rams will have to attach their own draft picks to dump Gurley. Nobody outside of O’Brien is trading assets for Gurley’s contract. Trading instead of cutting Gurley saves Rams $7.5m in cap space. My guess is they cut him by tomorrow and eat the cap space. They don’t have a lot of draft picks and everybody’s gonna want at least a 3rd round pick to take on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I believe his contract is really only like 4-6mil per year. New team isnt responsible for bonuses. I could be way wrong. But i think its not some bloated mess people think it is. im with alphadawg on this. The rams changed the way they used him. Him and devin on a rbbc would be a huge boost imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Goff is getting paid what QBs get paid. That contract is fine It the lack of cheap picks they have. They have to pay guys like Ramsey and they are out of money and n cheap high picks to replace them. They had an opportunity for sustained success and blew it. Gonna be 8-8 for a long time now The Gurley contract is the bigger killer. If they didn't have that kind of money committed to him it would at least give them some flexibility to spread that 17 million around to 3 or 4 different players and add some depth to their roster. But Goff is still not helping that roster very much at all sitting on a 36 million dollar cap hit while they pay a DT 25 million and a WR/RB combo 34 million (Gurley and Cooks.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, billsfan89 said: The Gurley contract is the bigger killer. If they didn't have that kind of money committed to him it would at least give them some flexibility to spread that 17 million around to 3 or 4 different players and add some depth to their roster. But Goff is still not helping that roster very much at all sitting on a 36 million dollar cap hit while they pay a DT 25 million and a WR/RB combo 34 million (Gurley and Cooks.) I agree his cap number isn't great but Goff would be getting that much money on most teams in the league. He's been good to excellent in his time with McVay They have to slash salaries somewhere, Gurley makes the most sense especially considering his production the last few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: I agree his cap number isn't great but Goff would be getting that much money on most teams in the league. He's been good to excellent in his time with McVay They have to slash salaries somewhere, Gurley makes the most sense especially considering his production the last few years The problem is cutting Gurley only frees up about 5 million for them. That's not insignificant but it is 12 million they are eating that could have gone elsewhere to sure up their depth or retain a better player. I could easily see the Rams winning 6-8 games the next two years while they try and handle adjusting their roster around that Goff contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: The problem is cutting Gurley only frees up about 5 million for them. That's not insignificant but it is 12 million they are eating that could have gone elsewhere to sure up their depth or retain a better player. I could easily see the Rams winning 6-8 games the next two years while they try and handle adjusting their roster around that Goff contract. If they are smart, they give him a huge signing bonus and just convert that to cap space. Saints do it all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Goff is getting paid what QBs get paid. That contract is fine It the lack of cheap picks they have. They have to pay guys like Ramsey and they are out of money and n cheap high picks to replace them. They had an opportunity for sustained success and blew it. Gonna be 8-8 for a long time now If there were ever a team that was set up to succeed no matter who the QB was, it was the Rams. Instead, they gave Goff the richest contract a QB had ever received and sacrificed their OL and are now contemplating sacrificing their WRs and RBs as well so that they can continue paying Goff. Being stuck in the middle of the QB world is the worst spot to be in because you end up paying for an elite QB without actually having one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, 808 said: I believe his contract is really only like 4-6mil per year. New team isnt responsible for bonuses. I could be way wrong. But i think its not some bloated mess people think it is. im with alphadawg on this. The rams changed the way they used him. Him and devin on a rbbc would be a huge boost imo https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/todd-gurley-16734/ His contract is awful. $7.5m roster bonus is already fully guaranteed this year but hasn’t been paid yet. His $5.5m base salary and 2021 roster bonus of $5m become fully guaranteed tomorrow. Whoever trades for him is taking on $18m in guarantees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: I dont think they have a first for the next 20 years. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills were interested. When Healthy Gurley is a great player. With our health facilities, they may be willing to roll the dice We have top sports docs that people fly in to see in Buffalo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: I would be surprised if we're in on this. Maybe if we bet a late round pick and we absorb the cap hit. amazing how I never had heard of ProFootball411 before two days ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Magox Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: I've seen him hit a few before anyone else reported them. Jefferson to the Bills was one example. I'm guessing his source is an agent's office so he won't always know everything. But he seems to know who is interested. I guess they lost their "all-in" bet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justin C Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 The Rams are going to be a mess the next few years. They might actually be our easiest opponent from the NFC West this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Magox said: I guess they lost their "all-in" bet. So true. That Ramsey trade kills them. No first rounders for a while. The Gurley deal is what it is. They had to pay him, but kind of backed themselves into a corner. I wonder if people with still see McVay as a genius, or is he just the next McDaniels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 RELEASED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: Goff is getting paid what QBs get paid. That contract is fine It the lack of cheap picks they have. They have to pay guys like Ramsey and they are out of money and n cheap high picks to replace them. They had an opportunity for sustained success and blew it. Gonna be 8-8 for a long time now But they do have that new logo, so they’ve got that going for them. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 What about my keeper fantasy team??? ? he was the safest player in the nfl 2 years ago. and I still think he has value for some team. Goff is about to get exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Remember when people thought Les Snead was good at his job? Those were the days. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Sure we'll take Gurley II on but Kupp better be included Kupp is good, and crazily enough is 167 days older than Stefon Diggs although in the league 2 fewer years. #themoreyouknow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 For the right money Gurley or Gordon make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Screw it. Let's do it. Go all in, IDGAF. He already is getting 7 million guaranteed from the Rams. If we can get him on a small 1 or 2 year deal, do it Edited March 19, 2020 by Buffalo03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Id prefer Melvin over Gurley... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, bkep32 said: RELEASED! Now, let us talk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sherlock Holmes Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Kupp is good, and crazily enough is 167 days older than Stefon Diggs although in the league 2 fewer years. #themoreyouknow Wow, that makes me feel even better. My main reason I felt good about getting Diggs instead of Thielen was age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Sign him. Perfect complement to Singletary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, WMDman said: Id prefer Melvin over Gurley... They averaged the same YPC and the Rams oline was garbage. TG isn’t the guy from a couple of years ago but I believe he has a few more quality years left. imagine if he went to the Chiefs. Edited March 19, 2020 by C.Biscuit97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: what an awful contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: If they are smart, they give him a huge signing bonus and just convert that to cap space. Saints do it all the time Converting roster bonuses and salary into a signing bonus only kicks the cap hit down the road to future years of the contract. If the player is released, then the portion of the signing bonus that has not been accounted for accelerates into the current year (or the following year if it’s after 6/1). So that would not have done the Rams any good at all here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, BarleyNY said: Converting roster bonuses and salary into a signing bonus only kicks the cap hit down the road to future years of the contract. If the player is released, then the portion of the signing bonus that has not been accounted for accelerates into the current year (or the following year if it’s after 6/1). So that would not have done the Rams any good at all here. ah, I gotta learn my contract details haha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: what an awful contract I mean it was a tough spot. He was one of the best players in the nfl. I feel as bad as you can for a professional athletes who are running backs. They get the crap kicked out of them and teams don’t want to pay them. I don’t how why you ever want to be a rb if you could play another position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: So true. That Ramsey trade kills them. No first rounders for a while. The Gurley deal is what it is. They had to pay him, but kind of backed themselves into a corner. I wonder if people with still see McVay as a genius, or is he just the next McDaniels? Let's ease their pain by taking Kupp off their hands... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 On paper, I'd be all for it. But there's been a lot of talk about the condition of his knees, possible arthritis, etc. Largely believed to be part of why he was released. But no one can do a physical. It's a pickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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